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originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: pl3bscheese You are full of negativity on the subject. So many non starters in one post. First of all if installed correctly the system as a whole will last over twenty yrs.
You speak of being blindly looking to the future as if that is not what has been happening for a very long time and is coming back to bite us. Fossil fuel usage can be cut down to virtually nothing and the reprecussions of making solar panals is very small compared to another twenty yrs of doing nothing.
As far as batteries go you are just wrong there again. There are types of batteries that require little maintance but will keep on working and they have been used ever since we have had telephones and are in every town around. just keep digging for reasons to destroy your own planet and you will keep finding them reasons. We have the technology to change the world but the bs that is put out by some just keeps everyone in their ruts.
originally posted by: knoledgeispower
As a whole, when was the last time we learned from our mistakes? We keep making them and with TPTB we will never move forward in the direction that we need to & the direction you are talking about.
If the people who are involved in the shadow banking system were to be able to leave the Earth & go off to find a new place to inhabit, do you really think they will be taking the poor people? Or is it more possible that only the best, brightest & richest will be going while the rest of us are left on Earth? I think it will be the latter.
originally posted by: roguetechie
a reply to: knoledgeispower
A more simple time?
Yeah because dying of a SPLINTER was ****iNG AWESOME!!!
Double digit infant mortality rates...
Death in child birth a regular occurrence...
Chronic malnutrition ....
That's just the 3 second list... people that say stuff lie this are inevitably the type of people who also talk about combat before guns being more honorable and romantic... otherwise known as MORONS who watch too much TV about the "good old times" and get their meat from a grocery store.
Truth be told the old times were dirty violent and ****ED UP!! Oh and just FYI kiss egalitarianism friggin goodbye because he who's willing to TAKE will have yours.
How about this instead? How about people grow the hell up and see we've got a parasite class that even with the exponential advances in human productivity has progressively taken more and more of a massive and always increasing human productivity for themselves leaving about 2 to 5% of EVERYTHING PRODUCED to support 98% of the population! Because really much of what is touted as "progress" like globalism is really just massive theft.
How about personal responsibility? What about working towards increased self sufficiency? What about just pulling your head out and realizing every time a dollar gets taken from your local economy by some national government hundreds of miles or km away only for in theory most of that money to be earmarked back into the local economy... at BEST you will get back about 60 cents! (Really usually it's much much worse than that with you being LUCKY to et 25 cents back on every dollar). Oh and how about this... when someone advocates dismantling the current currency/banking system don't ask whose going to loan me money if there's no banks? Hint: a large part of the shrinkage from local economies sending a dollar to be given a quarter is the privately held central banks taking their piece for.... allowing you to use money you'd already have if it wasn't stolen previously to make more money of which you'll need to somehow find a way to double the value of an item somehow in order to keep a 15% profit which you'll pay around a third of to your government who gives like 30% of THAT MONEY to the same people you've already paid at every damn step as has EVERY OTHER PERSON whose hands something passes through in the journey from raw resource to finished good.
Like right now is any better? It's still dirty, violent & messed up. I heard that there are places in the U.S where they don't have running water & indoor plumbing.
Truth be told the old times were dirty violent and ****ED UP!!
Double digit infant mortality rates...
Death in child birth a regular occurrence...
Chronic malnutrition ....
originally posted by: pl3bscheese
a reply to: deadeyedick
Batteries don't last 2-3 decades, and are still pretty expensive. Not all of the components will last 2-3 decades in a solar system. It was already mentioned the environmental damage involved in production of panels. You can't just wish away producing billions of solar panels to replace fossil fuels (which isn't even possible, anyways), and try to look blindly forward.
A cheap rechargeable battery that harnesses energy by using the electrochemistry of organic molecules rather than metals is being touted by Harvard researchers as a breakthrough for renewable energy.
The Harvard team reports that the battery, which they say can be applied on a power-grid scale, uses naturally abundant and small organic compounds called quinones rather than electrocatalysts from costly precious metals such as platinum.
Quinones would be inexpensive to obtain and can be found in green plants or synthesized from crude oil. The battery designed by Harvard scientists and engineers used a quinone molecule that's almost identical to one that's found in rhubarb.
The technology is outlined in the Jan. 9 edition of the journal Nature.
Unlike solid-electrode batteries, flow batteries are recharged by two chemical components dissolved in fluids that are kept in separate tanks
originally posted by: pl3bscheese
a reply to: knoledgeispower
Nice link!
I'm all for it. Organic technologies are where we need to be heading. The recent news about Tesla LiOn factories was rather disappointing, speaking of a drop from $200 to $125 per kilowatt as a "breakthrough". $27 per kilowatt would be a game-changer, indeed!
Now, as long as this doesn't get squashed like all the other >20% efficiency solar panels, and if they can get it to market and scale up production within a decade or so... maybe, just maybe...