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Malaysian 777 Passenger Airline Shot Down Over Eastern Ukraine

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posted on Jul, 18 2014 @ 02:11 PM
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a reply to: rustyclutch




It has a lot of relevance to the thread. It explains your refusal to do anything but keep driving home the same point over and over again. Those bad evil russians. the cold war. Russia hasn't ever done anything to me. I'm pretty sure they've never done anything to you either. Where is your proof Russia did anything? We been asking you since about 8 oclock last night. What Information are u basing your opinion off of? You just looking at pictures of the wreckage and using your psychic powers to rewind that days events? Last time I checked we all been looking at the same info as you, and there is nothing that says Russia is the one who did this.


What a crock of snip.

Never done anything ?

How about spying on you, me, and everyone in between for the past 60 years.

How about them reopening their largest spy complex in Cuba.

How about bringing this nation to the brink of NUCLEAR war when they decided to park their nukes in Cuba.

How about arming those people who have been killing our fellow Americans in Iraq, and Afghanistan?

They 'haven't' done anything?

Keep making EXCUSES.

Russia

And Putin are NO 'boyscouts'.

And it is beyond insane that some people think they are.




posted on Jul, 18 2014 @ 02:12 PM
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edit on 18-7-2014 by neo96 because: double post



posted on Jul, 18 2014 @ 02:12 PM
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a reply to: mclarenmp4

Not that I'd expect them to admit if he was. Just as if it was Air Force One, there is no way they'd admit that there was an attempt if there was.



posted on Jul, 18 2014 @ 02:12 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Adaluncatif




Would you fly in a passenger jet over Syria or Gaza or eastern Afghanistan?


No.

I don't fly.

I have no interest in that part of the world, and I have no interest in getting groped by the TSA.

But you will mindlessly support bombing of others by same gov. that deployed TSA .... OMG that I call consistency.



posted on Jul, 18 2014 @ 02:12 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: JanAmosComenius




I want to trade with Russia


Why ?

Russia is as CORRUPT as they come.

WikiLeaks cables condemn Russia as 'mafia state'


aw come on.. let him trade with Russia... I hear they have world class "sushi".



posted on Jul, 18 2014 @ 02:13 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

Uh, no they didn't. They said that they crossed paths near Warsaw, when they were about 30 minutes apart.



posted on Jul, 18 2014 @ 02:14 PM
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originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: rustyclutch

originally posted by: WASTYT
a reply to: thesaneone

Russia is provoking war, but unfortunately the West will do nothing about it.


If Russia wanted to provoke a war they coulda sunk an aircraft carrier not a freaking 777. Who the hell starts their opening salvo like that?

Yay someone has some sense here!

We may have got off to a bad start but your sure making sense.

What happened was not intentional. It was a mistake. One that Russia, Ukraine and the Air line company are guilty off.


I thought it was every other country wanting to provoke a war with Russia.



posted on Jul, 18 2014 @ 02:14 PM
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a reply to: JanAmosComenius




But you will mindlessly support bombing of others by same gov. that deployed TSA .... OMG that I call consistency.


Thanks for telling me what I think.

Thanks for the never ending FALSE CHOICE STRAWMAN on this site.

That is a practice that needs to end.



posted on Jul, 18 2014 @ 02:15 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: rustyclutch




It has a lot of relevance to the thread. It explains your refusal to do anything but keep driving home the same point over and over again. Those bad evil russians. the cold war. Russia hasn't ever done anything to me. I'm pretty sure they've never done anything to you either. Where is your proof Russia did anything? We been asking you since about 8 oclock last night. What Information are u basing your opinion off of? You just looking at pictures of the wreckage and using your psychic powers to rewind that days events? Last time I checked we all been looking at the same info as you, and there is nothing that says Russia is the one who did this.


What a crock of snip.

Never done anything ?

How about spying on you, me, and everyone in between for the past 60 years.

How about them reopening their largest spy complex in Cuba.

How about bringing this nation to the brink of NUCLEAR war when they decided to park their nukes in Cuba.

How about arming those people who have been killing our fellow Americans in Iraq, and Afghanistan?

They 'haven't' done anything?

Keep making EXCUSES.

Russia

And Putin are NO 'boyscouts'.

And it is beyond insane that some people think they are.


Haha spying on me? You mean like Obama is already doing? What could I have been doing of interest to a Russian. No. They were spying on our government. Big difference. You mad cuz they armed some people in some wars we were fighting? Get over it. We shouldn't have been over there. Only thing we have done since the cold war began is think of ways to contain, dismantle, and control russia. Now we have them backed in a corner, surrounded on all sides.....and somehow they are still seen as the aggressor. This is pure comedy. Russia has no reason to start a war in this manner. Countries think of Nuclear First strikes when it comes to america. Not downing aircraft. That's an assinine way to start a war with the United States. We have superior fire power. Russia had nothing to gain downing this plane.
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posted on Jul, 18 2014 @ 02:15 PM
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originally posted by: IQPREREQUISITE


So far, as I'm concerned, there has been no hard evidence YET to state with absolute certainty that the plane was shot down by a missile.



Check this picture, around upper left we see some sort of hole with metallic fragment pointing inward. At used altitude, the craft is pressurized and metallic shard should point outward...

rt.com...

As for the motives, separatist could have been tricked to fire on a civilian plane as a psychological warfare tactic. It can also be an honest mistake. I've seen high ranking officier in the AF incredibly stupid and completly detached from reality. Maybe the film "Dr Strangelove" was inspired from something after all...

Also, like a contractor from a big, big defence co. once said to me: "you know, sh*t happen sometime".



posted on Jul, 18 2014 @ 02:16 PM
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The only real fact in this is we'll never know the real facts.
So pick a source and a bias.



posted on Jul, 18 2014 @ 02:16 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

Will you offer me gas at better price? And now. Not may be 5 years later when you may be build terminals?



posted on Jul, 18 2014 @ 02:16 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

He was on his way back from Brazil from the BRICS conference.

Yahoo



posted on Jul, 18 2014 @ 02:18 PM
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originally posted by: sheepslayer247
a reply to: neo96

I've been saying all along that I am not picking a side or placing blame until facts are presented that indicate the need to do so.

That is making excuses for Mother Russia?

I don't think I could be any more impartial and reasonable!

C'mon Neo, just say that you hate Russia. I would respect that more than the spineless maneuvering you are doing to avoid saying it outright.


Well that's a joke.

Because if that had been an 'Israeli' missile people would be on it like stink on you know what.



posted on Jul, 18 2014 @ 02:18 PM
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originally posted by: WASTYT
The only real fact in this is we'll never know the real facts.
So pick a source and a bias.


Exactly. I don't know why people can't just admit their bias' or personal beliefs and be done with it. There is a complete lack of honesty in these conversations.

If you believe something...fine> At least have the juevos to own it.



posted on Jul, 18 2014 @ 02:18 PM
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a reply to: mclarenmp4

Oh, I know. I was just saying that when heads of state are travelling, especially when something happens like this, they are never going to give their route, or say where they were when it happened. It's a security thing to almost never give that information out to anyone.



posted on Jul, 18 2014 @ 02:18 PM
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originally posted by: PeterMcFly

originally posted by: IQPREREQUISITE


So far, as I'm concerned, there has been no hard evidence YET to state with absolute certainty that the plane was shot down by a missile.



Check this picture, around upper left we see some sort of hole with metallic fragment pointing inward. At used altitude, the craft is pressurized and metallic shard should point outward...

rt.com...

As for the motives, separatist could have been tricked to fire on a civilian plane as a psychological warfare tactic. It can also be an honest mistake. I've seen high ranking officier in the AF incredibly stupid and completly detached from reality. Maybe the film "Dr Strangelove" was inspired from something after all...

Also, like a contractor from a big, big defence co. once said to me: "you know, sh*t happen sometime".





I wouldn't say that hole would really mean anything. This jet fell from 30K feet, that hole could have happened on impact as well has another piece of debris or something in the field been below it and punctured it in this manner.



posted on Jul, 18 2014 @ 02:19 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: mclarenmp4

Not that I'd expect them to admit if he was. Just as if it was Air Force One, there is no way they'd admit that there was an attempt if there was.


Except in this case they admitted Putin has not flown over Ukraine in some time.



posted on Jul, 18 2014 @ 02:20 PM
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originally posted by: JanAmosComenius
a reply to: Xcathdra

Will you offer me gas at better price? And now. Not may be 5 years later when you may be build terminals?



This has what to down the Russian rebels shooting down a civilian aircraft?



posted on Jul, 18 2014 @ 02:20 PM
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Another interesting thing: www.independent.co.uk... 9613821.html

Not sure if this has been discussed guys, so sorry if it has. Just VERY interesting the fact that 100+ “best and brightest” scientists.

RIP to all that were on board.
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