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originally posted by: bigyin
Funny how the west can rush out recordings of phone calls right after the event, but now on news broadcasts they keep saying nobody knows whats happening with the bodies, nobody knows whats happening with the crash site, nobody knows whats happening with the black boxes.
Has the the phone call recorder guy gone on holiday now ?
How come they cant intercept calls now to find out what they need to know.
originally posted by: IZombie
They are saying on CNN that a body from the plane came down through the roof of a home 10 minutes away from the wreckage. What 10 minutes means in distance, I'm not sure. Odd thing is - the guy in the home said he heard the explosion and thought it was some sort of rebel fight near his village, so he ran and hid in his basement. That is when the body came through the roof.
he Russian media has made one thing clear in the aftermath of the destruction of Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17: it generates a view of the world corresponding to the political needs of the Kremlin. Yet even the Kremlin spin machine has been incapable of coming up with a plausible account of this tragedy that could deflect responsibility from the Putin administration's policies and actions.
So far, Russian official statements have been limited to generalized finger-pointing at the Ukrainian leadership for supposedly fomenting conflict and protests that "nothing has been proven yet." As a result, the state-controlled mainstream Russian media has been left spinning its wheels, rather than the facts as usual.
As many commentators have noted, following the awful events of this week the Kremlin's policy of covert "hybrid warfare" in Eastern Ukraine is at a crossroads: Putin must balance the domestic political risks involved in backing down from conflict and, at least implicitly, acknowledging Russian responsibility for the tragedy, on the one hand, against the growing dangers of Russia's global economic and political isolation, on the other.
Given the unknowns involved, it is small wonder that his administration is refraining from extensive public pronouncements, in the hope that no more conclusive evidence surfaces that Flight MH17 was destroyed by incompetent separatists, perhaps supplied and aided by the Russian armed forces, as western specialists and intelligence services believe to be the case.
This has left the mainstream Russian media, used to taking the lead from the Kremlin narrative, uncomfortably hanging. With no officially endorsed version of events to echo and embellish, media accounts have concentrated on casting doubt and offering murky proposals. Russia's established news sources of record are either refraining from offering analysis at all or resorting to half-baked insinuations.
originally posted by: GargIndia
a reply to: Xcathdra
It is remarkable that USA supported Ukraine gets no criticism at all.
I am actually relieved that Kiev has shown absolutely no access or control over the Donetsk region in this tragedy; thus reinforcing the case of separatists.
If Kiev could rush to control the ground situation immediately after the tragedy, that would have shown a Ukraine that believes in its territorial integrity and control over its area.
India has taken huge losses in Kashmir but has not budged an inch. This is the difference.
You cannot claim a land without the readiness to defend it and provide for it.
It is the separatists that control Donetsk, has been proven without an iota of doubt.
originally posted by: GargIndia
a reply to: dragonridr
So in your view - taking train station is more important than the sanctity of crash dead. Interesting.
originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: spy66
Of course they didn't pick it up. Radars in the vicinity would have trouble picking up a target as small as an SA-11 missile.
Amazing how they just now say there was a fighter in the area.