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posted on Jul, 18 2014 @ 07:53 PM
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No one ever has been abducted by aliens, only those that want to be caste under that label.

That, to me, says more about personal phycology than alien intervention. i.e. the need for attention!




posted on Jul, 18 2014 @ 08:04 PM
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I've just ben threatened under the 'new' rules!

# e'm: here's what I said!

No one ever has been abducted by aliens, only those that want to be caste under that label. That, to me, says more about personal phycology than alien intervention. i.e. the need for attention!



posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 09:18 AM
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originally posted by: infoseeker26754
Where does one start? Some would start using the Bible, some would start with the Sermerain Tablet, next we could go using the monkey idea, or starting with the Jinn.

Jinn somehow goes so far back yet little is known of them, other then evil spirits yet if I may ask How did They become Evil if Satan was not even here yet?

The Jinn started out as the abgal in Sumer, where they were benefactors, not evil.
The same beings (abgal) also became angels in later texts.
So, if you go back far enough, angels=Jinn.

Harte



posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 09:27 AM
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originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
a reply to: Moresby

Until we know for certain what the UFO experience represents. It's best to keep oneself open to a wide range of hypotheses.
Very competent, and wise position, in MMHO. (My Most Humble Opinion)

So what's your least humble opinion?

Harte



posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 09:29 AM
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originally posted by: haarvik
a reply to: ZetaRediculian

Ahh, but the difference is you don't see people who believe in aliens forcing their views on others or even waging war in the name of aliens, do you? BIG difference. I don't see people going door to door passing out "Believe in the aliens" pamphlets or protesting a rock concert because it is against alien beliefs.

Really?
When does the "There Were no Ancient Aliens" show come on the History Channel?

Harte



posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 10:38 AM
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originally posted by: Harte

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
a reply to: Moresby

Until we know for certain what the UFO experience represents. It's best to keep oneself open to a wide range of hypotheses.
Very competent, and wise position, in MMHO. (My Most Humble Opinion)

So what's your least humble opinion?

Harte
Least Humble? In a nut shell, There are some very rude, abusive, arrogant, self centered, A holes floating around ATS with no other reason for being than to block the progress of some peoples travels down the proverbial "rabbits hole". But that's just my LHO. (Least Humble Opinion), and subject to debate.

One other thing, they do not seem to have the least bit of Empathy towards their victims.
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posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 11:02 AM
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a reply to: ZetaRediculian

Well, in the most common idea of Gods Powers is that God can do anything. God made the universe, and God can destroy it, the Beginning and the End . We have no idea, if a universe can be artificially made by the hands of a speck(being).

God can destroy the world, while we can level the surface of a continent with a nuclear bomb. Makes you wonder if a whole planet could be shattered by some out of this world weapon?

You look at the plausibility of aliens, and all sort of possibilities open up for us Mortals. Hell, even in todays modern age its it own mythology now. Although I don't blame you for being...critical of your opinions on the existence of another species thats not from around here.

Hell, some of the crap on this site pisses me off, cause of...Well...A lot of reasons. Usually it about butt probing, and that these people are getting tortured, yet they live to tell the tale.
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posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 11:46 AM
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a reply to: All Seeing Eye




There are some very rude, abusive, arrogant, self centered, A holes floating around ATS with no other reason for being than to block the progress of some peoples travels down the proverbial "rabbits hole".


That's not true.

We are changing the way the "rabbit hole" is discussed.

That's good for everyone.




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posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 12:11 PM
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originally posted by: MarsIsRed
No one ever has been abducted by aliens, only those that want to be caste under that label.

That, to me, says more about personal phycology than alien intervention. i.e. the need for attention!




Denying what some people claim to experience, is very revealing about that persons personal Phycology [sic] as well.

What's phycology?

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posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 12:20 PM
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a reply to: olaru12



What's phycology?


It's the study of seaweed.




posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 12:22 PM
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Check out the term MILABS you will find a good deal on it,as well as a book of the same title.



posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 12:30 PM
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a reply to: Harte

Thanks for giving me something more to work on. Just find it odd that the Jinn are shown the other way as evil, unless you get to digging into it yourself.

If we, Man happened one day to explore another planet and upon landing, we could be seen as gods to them. One could drop the god idea for now and get to looking at it, dropping any ideas out there and look at things another way. One has to take a step back and see what may be missing; not to solve anything, just a better understanding Life anyways.

Peace



posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 12:38 PM
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a reply to: BybyotsI wont argue against what you share, but the other portion of my statement is still true! And there is that DAM word "We" again.

At any rate. Alright then, Ill bite.........


What if we are wrong
Dam straight we are. There are no such things as "Aliens"!!! Ill try to explain. The whole subject of Aliens has been a fabrication, a ruse, and defiantly a disguise.

We are not dealing with something from "Out There" from our time, but rather something "In Here" from present, to our deep past.

These Masqueraders are actually our creators and owners! Yes that's right! Long ago they put the human race in a box called Ignorance and stupidity, and generally we stay in the box because of fear. Fear of the unknown. They, the owners give us mind toys to play with like wars, gods, religions, and you guessed it, "Aliens".

There is no god in the manner you think, its all a game to them. Yes, absolutely, there is the Divine Source and its messengers, and I would suggest the "Owners" are not happy about that. The owners can control most of the physical laws we find ourselves immersed in, but they can not control that which they themselves can not comprehend, the spirit. For long ago they themselves may have forsaken their own souls for longevity.

Aliens, look up, look up, to see the pretty lights of the UFO. No, I say, start looking DOWN! That is one of the reasons Aliens were fabricated in the first place, its a dodge, a ruse, to send your curiosity in a harmless direction, harmless to the owners, that is.

Now when I said we are in a box, it is meant in a psychological manner. Physically we live on the edge of the universe. It is opposite for the Owners, they live in a physical box, and can only control us through psychological means.

Black is white, and white is black, good is bad and bad is good, inside out, and OUTSIDE IN!

Now for those controllers who are to mob me into silence, PROOF PROOF, WHERE IS YOUR PROOF, YOUR MAKING IT ALL UP kind of, well, A holes. Don't bother. you have worn out the tune you sing.

People of the earth, you have your own minds, use them. Prove or disprove for yourselves, its your own personal divine gift, choice. Use it!

But to satisfy those lurkers, this is all my own opinion, and I am entitled to it






posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 12:45 PM
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originally posted by: Specimen
a reply to: ZetaRediculian

Well, in the most common idea of Gods Powers is that God can do anything. God made the universe, and God can destroy it, the Beginning and the End . We have no idea, if a universe can be artificially made by the hands of a speck(being).

God can destroy the world, while we can level the surface of a continent with a nuclear bomb. Makes you wonder if a whole planet could be shattered by some out of this world weapon?

You look at the plausibility of aliens, and all sort of possibilities open up for us Mortals. Hell, even in todays modern age its it own mythology now. Although I don't blame you for being...critical of your opinions on the existence of another species thats not from around here.

Hell, some of the crap on this site pisses me off, cause of...Well...A lot of reasons. Usually it about butt probing, and that these people are getting tortured, yet they live to tell the tale.


God, aliens, nuclear bombs and butt probing. You have my total respect. Carry on.



posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 04:38 PM
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a reply to: All Seeing Eye



These Masqueraders are actually our creators and owners!


Yeah, 'cause it's us.

Shifting the blame on to some corporate alien farming operation is a really old story.

That's why on a previous page I took the opportunity to show how the development of the story (in that case the "Loosh" story) can be traced through world literature and creative thought. The example I gave was Gurdjieff, but I pulled up short for the sake of entertainment and not making a long post.

Pointing out all of the writers that have written about this idea seems like it would somehow "prove" that we are prisoners of some higher intelligence that has us captive as livestock, but all it really does is drill down hard on the fact that what's really happening is that there is some condition that beseiges us all that we cannot articulate unless we do so in veiled metaphor and especially fiction.

That is the thing that we need to understand, we need to understand why and how that works on us and chasing shiny space ships takes us off the mark.


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posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 05:37 PM
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a reply to: BybyotsIn a retarded sort of way that makes more sense than aliens mixed with religion to produce peace on earth.... Thanks for understanding. I can at times empathize, errrr, input information




posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 07:38 PM
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originally posted by: IngolfStern
Urantia.org

It is YOUR book. YOUR history. YOUR heritage. YOUR future.

You should learn it.

Hint: God is a spaceman.

Hint: The Urantia cult is a known front with many ties to the CIA...

You should BURN it.


The Urantia Brotherhood’s holy text was 'supposedly channelled by a member of the Kellogg family, which had four members enrolled in Skull & Bones fraternity at the time to book was produced.' The Urantia book is a mind control tool that serves the upper-class comprising Bones. It is larded with the same eugenics that have been a hallmark of S&B for the past century: The Bones society is also known to be on close terms with the CIA, but the Urantia sect had long been a front for agents of government and the Complex before the CIA came along. " Many of the cult's early members had positions in government and poltical bodies like the UN - similar to the career paths of Bonesmen.

The Urantia Cult is a Skull & Bones Spin-Off


Urantia CIA experimental mind control
Urantia - One of Satan's greatest masterpieces of deception
Urantia CIA experimental mind control programming
Links to CIA and the MK Ultra
The Cult of Urantia
Urantia: The Great Cult Mystery



posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 07:47 PM
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originally posted by: MarsIsRed
No one ever has been abducted by aliens...



There is a massive amount of well documented physical evidence that makes it pretty obvious that he abduction phenomena is not an illusion, delusion or a psychological phenomena.

This is VERY widespread and has been very well documented.


Another aspect of the so called alien abduction phenomena is the implants that people claim to have left in their bodies after they have been abducted. This may be the smoking gun. We have physical evidence that the phenomena are not an illusion or delusion. This is hard-core evidence that can be studied in a lab and put through a regimen of scientific tests.

Dr. Roger Leir has had the objects tested by some of the most prestigious labs in the USA. I asked Dr. Leir what he thought the purpose of the implants were and he informed me that his best guess was that they were changing the DNA of the person in whom they were inserted. He doesn’t believe that they are tracking devices. LINK ~ L.A. Marzulli's Blog


Amazingly, on analysis with a scanning electron microscope at NMT Laboratory, it was found that the implant WAS CONNECTED TO THE PATIENT’S NERVE ENDINGS! It was also covered by unidentifiable biological material that prevented ‘rejection’ by the patient’s immune system. LINK


This video talks about these abductee implants at the 9 min. point:


Implants, also known as inserts or object links are common in Satanic Ritual Abuse survivors. These are usually tiny foreign objects which are inserted subcutaneously in the child during rituals after being blessed on the altar of Satan. Implants and WITCHCRAFT




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posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 08:39 PM
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a reply to: All Seeing Eye

Sounds just about right, although the Just A Game would be wrong; somewhat. Throughout Time, the game sometimes turns Real unlike in the game one does not worry about Lives just toss in another Quarter and continue.

This time the Game became Real, as in the past so many times ago. One could call it Class Time and Now it's Time for the Test. Ask yourself this, Would you knowing the ways of the World Now! Want it to Continue? Back in the day before Adam, we had The Old One's who had their Time on Earth until their Test. Then we have The Watchers, who Failed their Test yet for some reason are allow to Play Later in Ours. Should have been just before Noah making The Ark.

This is The Age Of Stupid! Once Man crossed the line going Above Gods Will. Hard to say what Line was crossed; Mindless Killings, Playing God, Hurting Earth and Treating Life as if It were useless or using Life anyway. So while some are looking Up at the Sky, They continue to open the Box; if not Opened already. Space Program could be nothing more then Keeping God from coming to Earth. Sad part to all this is if somehow God made it pass the Barrier some farmer Joe would Shoot First thinking Aliens!

So, just what did Man find after all these years underground after all? Had to go Open something they should have never found! Kinda like Japan who built power plants on the coastline Knowing the Stones warring Them of Waves Of Death! All this Time we are Told to Look for Signs Elsewhere and not right in front of our pretty faces.

Now explain Doom Porn? Now that the classroom is empty, and one gets No Peace, A Test is Needed! Now being caught up in The Game; works every time, one becomes Lost at the Time Of Testing. So far Outside Themselves, anything that Can Be Doom, will be! Here in the US we have the almost Perfect Set Up although There are Rules to Follow.

Man has lost 4 out of the 5 Test's so far to date. Test 5 is Now Ongoing! Best one can do is Drop what the World Claims as Truth, programming has its Flaws Thank God! Plus Never discount The Unseen, Here to help because Their in the Same Boat Too! Some I should say, just like it is Today in Our World. 1/3 of what is called Evil Is Not! Used to trick one into thinking this so later during the Test, One does not Uses Everything Avalible to them while doing said Test!

It's Good that a Troll comes by from time to time, lets one know one is Not Crazy and also maybe set one Free, Hopefully. Or at least breaking down their walls a bit and giving one a chance. Whats more important, your Life or Anothers? Looking at what is now playing outside, it would seem just Themselves is what is on the Plate. Not everyone can see past this, only a few.

Only a few would Dare look inside their own Box, so keep from doing this will curse ones very name, sideshift your words, yet can only use what is known to them since their Hearts have either sold out, quit, or is already Black! See it everyday, Trolls looking for Whats In The Test! Pointless since each Test relates to each persons Inner Being so wasting one time being a Troll. One could not get said info if using any other means anyway. Rules are Rules!

Of Course, all in my head, just talking #, pulling strings. Point is Never Quit Trying! Some days will come and having no one hear ones words one gets upset, sad, worried, afraid. Just remember one needs not be perfect anyways, just give what one can when able. Sure one needs to work one it, take blows even, if ones Energy is down. Take A Break! It's Okay!

Peace



posted on Jul, 19 2014 @ 09:03 PM
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Why would one fear Butt Probing? Really? All there is is # down there! Even Cartman did not seem to mind having a dish in His @!

I do agree! Read a lot of BS myself, even question why does one bother at all. One Chooses Too! Chooses to gives ones Life to save many others out there. One could give say 1 Bill Dollars to feed starving children yet risks nothing of Value. Is a good thing, yet keeps one safe from whats Really out there. Most are still caught into believing Karma you can earn Bonus Points! There is a difference between giving ones Time vs. $20!

Take a look at H. P. Lovecraft Works. Most can not explain How he got the info on most of the things he wrote about. Some of this stuff is so far down the rabbits hole, it became lost! So if any happen to be really Down in the hole. Toss some Stuff Upwards! In that way we can get To You Sooner.

Lets end the Aliens shall we? Just One Planet we can say Life Exists so Logic and Reason can both agree it is Possible many other Planets out in Space could have Life, Period! Case Closed!

Peace



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