a reply to: FlySolo
Thanks for your thorough response. I must be getting cynical because even after reading your thoughtful post, the deal still seems one-sided. Maybe
there is something to be salvaged from this however.
For Israel, I don't think Palestine saying that Israel is a state means anything at all. The world, outside of some number of Islamic countries,
realizes that Israel is a state, the UN thinks Israel is a state. What, really, does Israel get from Palestinian recognition?
As far as admitting that Israel owns the land they're on, what's new? It's the same as recognition. What actual benefit does Israel receive? I
don't see any. Does that make them richer, safer, better in the world's eyes? I don't think so.
So on Israel's side, they get nothing of value, and if Hamas breaks the deal, Israel can do nothing about it. They have to go to the UN where any
action would be vetoed by China, Russia, or both.
The whole concept of earning land after milestones is to encourage peace.
Israel gave away the Sinai Peninsula, and pulled every
single Jew out of Gaza. Surprisingly, that didn't get them peace.
It doesn't matter what culture you come from, it's human nature to want to succeed when things are going well. You don't just earn 360
square km then do something stupid to lose it.
Lose it??? And who is going to take it away, the UN? Remember the vetoes.
Because the world is starting to get sick of the crap. International pressure should be applied to Israel to make it work.
Israel? Did you forget applying at least some kind of pressure to hamas and the Palestinians?
A couple of other things what? Start with right of return, which by itself destroys Israel.
Clearly, no military action at all will be tolerated from Palestine. Zero tolerance.
Fine, I like zero tolerance for violence. Who hands out the penalties when it occurs? The UN again? Hamas launches a major attack, and the UN says
we have zero tolerance for that. Action gets vetoed.
So there shouldn't even be a need for Hamas. If there ever is a terrorist attack, it would be a single cell not affiliated to the government.
In which case, both states work together to find the attacker(s) and destroy them. I would think that should satisfy Israel's paranoia and scare off
any would-be terrorists.
It doesn't even satisfy my common sense. Hamas will say, "OK, guys, we're done. Let's go back to our goats.
Turn in your rockets and all that military stuff to the government (Which by the way, is
An attack comes against Israel from Palestine, and Israel is supposed to talk about it then decide what to do about it? I can see it. The Israeli
representative comes into the Gaza government building and says "We think these dozen guys just shot up our border settlement." The Gaza
representative says, "OK, dawn tomorrow we'll go round them up." The next day, the Israelis are informed "We must have a security leak, somehow
those guys discovered our plans and left the country. Be sure to call on us again the next time this happens."
All they can do is be a pestering noisy mosquito. How do you stop a mosquito without slapping it? Let it feed.
even with Iron Dome, and
stuffing half their population in shelters, Israel has still lost people to the rockets. Let it feed?
What else does Israel gain? Acceptance by the Arabs that Israel is it's own state. Isn't that what you want?
NO. Ok, is that