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originally posted by: Vilkata
. No one notices Russia gearing up for DEFENCE against the US who wants to use a proxy to fight the Russians so the US can grab their oil pipeline and strangle Europe as much as they need to to force them to continue to use the US dollar as a reserve currency.
In the meantime they will have taken down Russia leaving China alone and isolated That's why they want we Australians to start spending more on offense so that we can bolster the US control of south east Asia and help the US encircle China in readiness to take China down. Then the US will own the whole world.
originally posted by: rickymouse
Russia is going to cut off our Vodka supply.
originally posted by: milomilo
In the end the USA are not psychologically ready to accept the concept of a real world war inflicted upon them and on the US soil. All these times and even in world war 1 & 2 there's never been any major attack on US mainland. This lead to a false sense of security and the US leaders think they can mess around with the world without ruining their land.
Witness how USA trying to provoke russia into a regional war. the US leaders assume the next war with russia will happen on European soil and not on US soil. So they keep provoking and provoking thinking that if worse come to worst it will be the european that shoulder the damage from the war.
im sure in the next war , there will be attacks on US mainland designed to morally destroy the american public will to fight. There wont be any help coming from EU as these European will stay back and they will support anyone who win the war.
The Enemies of USA wont be foolishly stand toe-to-toe against US military , they will attack USA from all front especially the major weakness of USA , their economy. The current status of Dollar as world reserve currency will be shaken and once it fall it will be like an avalance when every other nation in the world dump US Dollars.. Without funding the great military might of USA will be reduced to rusted skeletons in massive military graveyards all around the world. With the Economy and military might of USA gone, the Leaders of the world will be the EU again and the remaining US assets will be divided amongst the victors.
We are already in World War 3. Currently in the Economic Wars Phase. The Shooting Phase will be in the near future.. Grab the popcorn now !
Russia is not defending anything but just invading a nearby country, where local population overthrew its corrupted puppet.
originally posted by: milomilo
originally posted by: Vilkata
Ok, so here is a possible way to interpret recent events.
Old news for most on here, the US is on the verge of economic collapse and in several extended wars with no end in sight. Russia has been steadily but quietly rebuilding.
The American disarmament of Syrian chemical capabilities is an example of the US trying to maintain dominance over Russian allies in the region.
Russia pays off Snowden to spill embarrassing info on the US government just in time to put them on the defensive while the Russians have the added distraction of the Olympics. No one notices them gearing up for war.
Shortly after, apparently unrelated to each other, uprisings in Ukraine allow Russia to annex large amounts of the country, followed by uprisings in Iraq diminish American holdings. Each of these uprisings has been undertaken by apparently local but well trained and armed groups.
Your questiion should be : which another military adventure will US trying to start ?
Russia is defending its nation from NATO's illegal enroachment of Ukraine.. USA is playing with fire with their cover involvment in Ukraine.. Just wait for the expected vengeance via terrorist proxy in US soil later in the near future.. where Russia+China+Iran collaborate to destabilize US security by activating their terrorist cells inside USA..
You now know the reason why Homeland Security boought so any ammunition ..
originally posted by: MrSpad
Russia is desperately trying to stay relevant in a world that has passed it by. It's great advantages were always its massive population that could be forced into battle either by loyalty or threat and its huge territory that allowed it to give lots of ground while it wore down its enemies. Today Russia is ounumber by the Chinese in the east and NATO in the west. I no longer has the massive territory to give ground and its military has proven to more that willing to desert at any time.
Russia has been working to reform its military because when it invaded Geogia it ran into problems like having to pull back air support because they kepy being shot down by their own forces and nobody had a way to communivate between the ground and air forces, their version of a GPS system failed and units were lost all over the place, tanks were found that the reative armour was empty because soldiers had sold the explosives inside on the black market, units existed on paper but not in reality etc. Russia has worked to fix these things but massive corruption has limited what it can do. In Ukraine only Russia elite units have been used because who knows what the rest of the Army is capable of doing.
The other problem is the Russians can design weapons systems but, do to the loss of trained workers in the defense industry newly produced weapons systems tend to be poorly put together and defective.
Globaly Russia has lost almost everything. Cuba, Venezuela, Syria are all on the verge of being falied states. Iran has seen Russian weakness and moved to talk to the west on its own. The Arab states once loyal Russian allies now hate the Russians for supporting Assad and Iran. Africa once solid territory for Russia has become divided into US/UK/French client states and now tied as a group through NATO and AU cooperation agreements. Europe is completely lost. Russias actions have driven the remaining non NATO states into NATOs arms. It has even managed to drive most of the former Soviet states into the arms of the West and China. And to make matters worse Russia claims to be China's best friend while at the same time selling weapons to China's rivals in India and Vietnam. Something that China is very aware of thus its lack of support for Russia most of the time.
Russia has big problems. Putin has become the man of symbolic actions that he can sell as great victories at home but, tend to just make Russia position in the world even worse.
originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: bobs_uruncle
The civllians would be down mil spec gear is shielded from that and SUBMARINES will respond rather quickly,not to mention EMP will not stop GUNS once we find out WHO did it from orbit.
Nor mentioning AT ALL what EXACTLY we have in orbit.
We still are better at killing than the rest,our numbers, tech and skills prove it.
originally posted by: bobs_uruncle
a reply to: Vilkata
Well if self-fulfilling prophecy has anything to say about it, I'd say the Russians and either ISIS or the Saudis are going to stomp the crap out of Israel. It would be the card I would play, if I were Putin.
It collapses the world financial markets, forces the US and Europe to either submit or go balls to wall because of MAD. I am quite sure the US puppet government would rush to support Israel and blame it on Iran and/or ISIS. The US would probably launch a strike on Iran and/or ISIS in which case, of course the Russians would retaliate with probably EMP weapons sending the US back to the stone age. The last chess pieces might just be being moved on the board. China will sit back, laugh and wait for the dust to clear.
Cheers - Dave
originally posted by: rustyclutch
The only "declining" power in this conversation is the United States. Lowest troop levels since prior to ww2. Highest debt to gdp ratio ever. Lowest troop morale ever. Lowest support for the government ever. Lowest credit rating ever. Least amount of friends around the world ever. 130 nations just signed business deals and agreements, and none of those deals and agreements was with the United States. I recall a certain fiasco when we raided Iraq when people were forking up their own money to get helmets for our troops. That's right, some of our troops didn't even have appropriate helmets. Bombing Iraq, Libya, Vietnam, Korea into the stone ages isn't an example of military prowess.
America is becoming more irrelevant everyday. I live here I know. We can't even protect our southern border. Protecting borders is part of what militaries have been used for going back thousands of years. Just because we have good equipment and fancy technology doesn't meant that the people in charge aren't complete and total idiots. As long as you have idiots running the show no technological edge is great enough. Someone could walk a nuke across our border right now. Someone could walk an army into our country right now. Border's wide open. Border patrol's off changing diapers and doing paperwork.
In the real world big strong bullies get knocked out all the time. I don't know why war would be any different. Not respecting the strength of your opponent has led to many crushing defeats throughout history. Ironically most of those crushing defeats were dealt by Russia. Old jailhose proverb " You can't do a pushup with your chin". Translation....you can make all your muscles as big and strong as you want for the purpose of punching, but that won't make you any more capable of taking a punch. United States has a glass jaw. It just never gets tested.
originally posted by: Bearack
a reply to: cavtrooper7
One of my Taekwondo instructors is a lad from Kiev. All of his family still resides there. The feeling he and his family is getting is that Ukrainians want nothing to do with the Russian Federation, considering the death toll their families went through during Holodomor. Everyone he speaks with, at least in in Western Ukraine, are willing to fight tooth and nail to remove any Russian influence.
originally posted by: cavtrooper7
What is the REAL position of the Ukraine people in this mess?
originally posted by: Adaluncatif
Russia is gearing up for the attack that America is preparing for it. America plans a nuclear first strike on Russia.