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Israeli Naval Ship Bombs Palestinian Children on Gaza Beach - Killing Four

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posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 06:32 PM
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originally posted by: TinfoilTP
a reply to: sosobad

You are the one that posted a CNN version of the kids show, it still had martyrdom, shootings, and resistance as substance matter for pre school children.

You just dropped a pile of Camel doo and stepped in it all by yourself.


It wasn't a version of the show it was the fact that the translation was bull#


the MEMRI transcript misrepresents the segment where he asks what she will do, by attributing a sentence said by Farfour, ("I'll shoot"), to the child while ignoring the child's actual reply ("I'm going to draw a picture")



("We're going to [or want to] resist"), had been given an unduly aggressive interpretation by MEMRI as ("We want to fight")



Also, where MEMRI translated the girl as saying the highly controversial remark ("We will annihilate the Jews"), Whitaker and others, including Arabic speakers used by CNN, insist that based on careful listening to the low quality video clip, the girl is variously interpreted as saying, "The Jews [will] shoot[] us"[91] or "The Jews are killing us."


Maybe after the child in question has seen so much violence perpetrated against her people she doesn't know how to talk about much else but the presenter never said anything, hence bull#.

Could you not read that yourself? Would have saved me the bother of doing it for you again

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posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 06:33 PM
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a reply to: Corruption Exposed

Well when you have kids in neighboring countries strapped with ak-47s trained to be hell bent on war its not that crazy.

And how exactly do you think hamas came to power anyway....oh yeah death and destruction. You dont think those people with bombs strapped to thier chest or in a car care about if kids are around?

The whole region is a wreck and in conflict with extremist ideologies and these types of stories are just gonna keep on coming.

End note, i pray for the killing to stop and peace to be found.



posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 06:52 PM
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originally posted by: sosobad

originally posted by: combatmaster

originally posted by: sosobad

originally posted by: combatmaster

originally posted by: sosobad
a reply to: combatmaster




If this is the case of a trigger happy nutjob who shot kids on purpose, you can be sure that Israel would make an example of punishing him.


Like they have with those who killed all the other children so far?



But I can assure you, it has never been the policy of Israel to target innocent civilians, let alone children.


Could have fooled me, looks like they are pretty adept at it.



Whereas Hamas' policy is the total and complete annihilation of all Jews within Israel.


They have a lot of catching up with Israel to do before that statement makes sense



So what now?


Dunno, might go to bed soon


Stay in bed... you are asleep whether you know it or not.
I am awake... i know gaza inside out, i know israel inside out.
You dont know what you are talking about, i assure you!
You should stay in your safe, warm bed!


Nice reply lol Wanna refute anything I actually said in my post instead of focusing on my bed?


Hamas using human shields... many of those are willingly doing so, among them children who are taught to die for the cause.
I have personally witnessed this with my own eyes.
Why is this so hard to comprehend, to put into the equation when c you hear that children die!?


www.dci-palestine.org...

Too many children dead in the last week to list, everyone of these being used as a human shield? The ones asleep in their beds? The ones walking to Mosque? The ones watching a football game?


I have personally witnessed this with my own eyes.


You say this all the time along with


You dont know what you are talking about


On here and other threads

But I have a sneaking feeling you are the one that doesn't have a clue.


But its true... you dont know what you are on about.

Having never been to either place, like most critics on ATS. No knowledge of the society, culture, internal complexes.

If you honestly believe that Israel targets children then you are lost. If Israel wanted to kill palestinian children, let alone commit genocide, they have the weaponry to do so. This is not their goal.

Why do you act as if it is? We both know that it is a preposterous claim. Are you accusing me of wanting to kill palestinian children? Words have more power than one might think and ignorant ATSers throw them around like its nothing.

The site you gave me is full of children hurt maimed and killed unintentionally. If it was on purpose, the death toll would be much higher!

Its all on Hamas. They dont give a **** about their own children. I see video of mothers in Gaza calling on their own children to martyr themselves until nobody is left. Im sure you've seen it, but if not ill show you! How can you blame Israel?

How can you say i am the one who doesnt know? That is bloody ridiculous! I know better than you ever will!



posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 07:01 PM
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a reply to: TinfoilTP

Still pretending you care?

Why would you assume I would want that for anyone? What makes you think it would be any better for them in Egypt? Being relocated off their land once again would finally stop the hate?

Like I said, fantasy world.



posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 07:02 PM
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a reply to: combatmaster



How can you blame Israel?


How can you not? It is not pillows they are dropping on those children is it?



They dont give a **** about their own children.


They sure look upset every time one of their children gets killed.



Words have more power than one might think and ignorant ATSers throw them around like its nothing.


Keep that in mind when you tell everyone you know it all and they know nothing



This is not their goal.


They are still doing an excellent job at it.



Having never been to either place, like most critics on ATS. No knowledge of the society, culture, internal complexes.


And you have to be mindful of who you tell knows what and doesn't, I personally have a member of my family in that part of the world and my own countrymen in the past where also labeled terrorists when fighting a more militarily forceful country within our boarders. I can empathize with the Palestinians 100%




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posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 07:25 PM
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a reply to: sosobad

You just give pathetic remarks to my logical explanations. As if you are trying to project intelligence by being comical or funny with your whitty remarks! This is pathetic.




I personally have a member of my family in that part of the world and my own countrymen in the past where also labeled terrorists when fighting a more militarily forceful country within our boarders.


So this makes you an expert on the mideast? Are you challenging the know of the people withing the current conflict?

Forget it! this discussion between us is over!



posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 07:34 PM
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a reply to: combatmaster



Forget it! this discussion between us is over!


Thank God because I don't know how much more of you I could take

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posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 07:36 PM
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a reply to: BobAthome


You just said it was Hamas fault that Israel bombed children? Wow. Never heard of personal responsibility, eh?



posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 07:37 PM
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originally posted by: sosobad
a reply to: combatmaster



Forget it! this discussion between us is over!


Thank God because I don't know how much more I could take of you


There we go.... another joke, another whitty remark! This explains a lot.



posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 07:40 PM
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originally posted by: combatmaster
a reply to: buster2010




Just remember Israel would never hurt a child on purpose while Hamas wants to only kill children.


I agree!

Do you understand the concept of sarcasm?



posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 07:42 PM
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originally posted by: combatmaster

originally posted by: sosobad
a reply to: combatmaster



Forget it! this discussion between us is over!


Thank God because I don't know how much more I could take of you


There we go.... another joke, another whitty remark! This explains a lot.


Thought you had stopped talking to me?



posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 07:44 PM
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originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: TinfoilTP

Still pretending you care?

Why would you assume I would want that for anyone? What makes you think it would be any better for them in Egypt? Being relocated off their land once again would finally stop the hate?

Like I said, fantasy world.


The population in Gaza is used as an umbrella for militants, if they immigrate then the umbrella is gone. Pretty simple concept.



posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 07:44 PM
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originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: TinfoilTP
Oh I see. You think the Arab nations are just gonna take ALL of Palestinians in Gaza? They didn't back 1947 & they definitely ain't gonna it today. Show me a stable Arab nation capable of such feats? So with that said, do you call off your bulldozers and land mines?


Nope, Obama has shown them the way to be an immigration hero, that is what's different.
Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, LIbya, the list goes on, plenty of room for the tiny dot on the map that is Gaza to migrate to.


You know, I could almost get behind that. It IS only 1.6 million people. That said, what would the cry be like if someone wanted to throw the Israelis off of their land?


Gaza is not a self sustainable nation, it has nothing to export and must import everything.
Gaza is nothing more than a beach head left over from a failed attempt to annihilate Israel by the neighboring Arab States.

That's where you are wrong. Gaza is sitting on a pocket of natural gas so much gas that Israel has been trying to sell it out from under them.



posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 07:44 PM
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originally posted by: intrepid
OK, let's see if I get what some are saying here. If Hamas actually kills an Israeli with unaimable weapons it's terrorism but if Israel kills Palestinians with accurate ordinance it's collateral damage?


It's really great when one owns the media eh?
I must read from many sources, as almost all of us do
in order to get the skinny.
I also heard the ordinance was smart-- and the shells
were steered in. Whatever Mike Rivero was using for
a source on that report this afternoon may be telling,
if a good zoom-in was an integral part of the gift.
Still digging for that one, but if that report was for real
it makes this incident a lot less than a mistake.



posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 07:49 PM
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a reply to: Corruption Exposed

When they interviewed that Israeli woman who said she thought they should level all of Gaza and then said "Im a little bit fascist" I was blown away.

Jewish Israeli self admitted fascist. Maybe some of these Jewish people have a little trans-generational Stockholm syndrome.



posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 07:51 PM
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I appreciate everyone's participation and opinion but can we please not insult each other? Some people have a habit of starting arguments to deflect from the topic.

Many of my threads have been closed by this tactic as I often take the bait. Sorry if I sound like a mod lol it's just i hate seeing threads get shut down to incivility.

Cheers.
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posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 07:55 PM
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a reply to: Corruption Exposed

My bad sorry



posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 07:55 PM
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originally posted by: Danbones
hamas was created and is run by Israel

Hamas is a Creation of Mossad

globalresearch.ca...
the old " controlled opposition lobs us a softball gag"
its as old as the old "football in the groin" gag which is what happens to the unlucky country that's paying for this travesty



from the article,,

"Sheik Ahmad Yassin
was able to raise several hundred million dollars, from those same countries.
The the budget of The Hamas
was said to be greater than that of the Palestinian Authority.
These new sources of funding enabled the Islamists to effectively pursue their various charitable activities.

It is estimated that one Palestinian out of three is the recipient of financial aid from the Hamas."





as a Palestinian, i guess that would be like house insurance??

Do they have/get house insurance?

after all no Official War has been declared , so,, do insurance policy work??



posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 07:59 PM
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s&F simply for the best pro Hamas propaganda thread made so far in this conflict.

You really do believe everything they tell you huh.

/outofthread



posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 08:00 PM
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originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: TinfoilTP
Oh I see. You think the Arab nations are just gonna take ALL of Palestinians in Gaza? They didn't back 1947 & they definitely ain't gonna it today. Show me a stable Arab nation capable of such feats? So with that said, do you call off your bulldozers and land mines?


Nope, Obama has shown them the way to be an immigration hero, that is what's different.
Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, LIbya, the list goes on, plenty of room for the tiny dot on the map that is Gaza to migrate to.


You know, I could almost get behind that. It IS only 1.6 million people. That said, what would the cry be like if someone wanted to throw the Israelis off of their land?


Gaza is not a self sustainable nation, it has nothing to export and must import everything.
Gaza is nothing more than a beach head left over from a failed attempt to annihilate Israel by the neighboring Arab States.

That's where you are wrong. Gaza is sitting on a pocket of natural gas so much gas that Israel has been trying to sell it out from under them.


Nobody will develop it with the mafia tactics of the militants in charge. All they do is skim off the top, add to their millions they accumulated already from keeping the population in poverty.
The UN could go in, pump it and use proceeds to immigrate the population out of Gaza. Give shares to every family that leaves so they benefit the rest of their lives in their new homes.
This would remove the umbrella the militants operate under, the population is nothing more than a human shield to attack Israel from, they will never see a penny for prosperity under the rulership they have there.




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