A Video from the Secret Space Program and Breakaway Civilization Conference 2014

"The average Joe wouldn't have access to a particle beam or weaponry.

He would be heating his home, etc. "

The same argument as "He just has a gun to protect his home!"

I think it is far more important to think of this in terms 'the next notch up' from individuals - groups, corporations, countries, etc. They are just as irresponsible as individuals, time has shown.

a reply to: Rob48

"I already know the truth, so I need not see any further evidence or information".

And, do you actually know Mr. McCandlish? Would you like to tell us how you know this?
Or shall I say to you "I'm not going to listen to you, because my mind is made".

a reply to: Mary Rose

He's a very gentle man. He live a quiet life away from all this stuff and spends a lot of time with animal rescues.

a reply to: Mary Rose

For one thing, it is a given that there are paid agents on this forum.

No its not a given. Why in the world would there be a need for "paid agents" to patrol a forum? If there are, they really suck at it. So the goal of these paid agents is to sway the beliefs of a handful of people that happen to read this stuff? That would have to be the most inefficient way to accomplish anything.

What exactly would a paid agent do here? What kind of impact do ANY of these threads have on society? Why would they let all those dumb UFO documentaries air for a broader audience than?

Second request, from page 8:

originally posted by: TheSearchforSpork
Hi All, my name is James Gladman. I'm the co-producer of "Zero Point". If you have any questions about James Allen, or the film Zero Point, ask me.

Why didn't James Allen ask Mark McCandlish why Kent Sellen was provided information about the ARV during the 18 hour debriefing?

Please respond. This is an important question. What would be the rationale for information to be volunteered when non-disclosure and secrecy was the goal?

a reply to: TheSearchforSpork

Making stuff up? If you found the drug screen portion of the autopsy report, by all means provide it.

a reply to: raymundoko

Drugs are irrelevant to this thread.

The thread is about the craft.

It is also about the fact that, not drugs, but uranium and thorium caused James Allen's death.

He was assassinated.

Um, what in the world makes you think he died from uranium and thorium??? Yes he had elevated levels, but almost everyone living in urban areas does. They are both natural isotopes...

a reply to: Mary Rose

originally posted by: raymundoko
. . . almost everyone living in urban areas does. They are both natural isotopes...

Really?

Well, that's news to me.

As I recall from the roundtable discussion, he was diagnosed with cancer one month before, and died two months after, the film was released.

Yes, especially a place like Savannah that has as many industrial factories as it does. The city might be beautiful, but it is surrounded by more than a few paper mills.

a reply to: Mary Rose

a reply to: raymundoko

This is called rapid onset cancer, I believe, and it is suspicious:

originally posted by: Mary Rose
. . . diagnosed with cancer one month before, and died two months after, the film was released.

a reply to: Mary Rose

Did you quote yourself as your own source?

a reply to: raymundoko

No.

I can't link to a source because I don't remember where I saw it.

You've never heard of it?

a reply to: TheSearchforSpork

Expect me to get in contact with you at some point in the future.

originally posted by: Mary Rose
a reply to: raymundoko
I can't link to a source because I don't remember where I saw it.

I may have heard the term used in a Red Ice Radio interview that was on the topic of a large number of scientists dropping dead who were associated with some sensitive subject or project. I'm hazy on it.

I just remember the term "rapid onset."

I'm familiar with rapid onset cancer. I've lost family to it. But where's the proof this guy died of it?

a reply to: Mary Rose

a reply to: raymundoko

Proof that he died of cancer?

a reply to: Mary Rose

Have already seen this video on another thread, I really still believe that ufos comprise both man made and alien tech...

OG

originally posted by: Spacespider
I believe him.
I just watched the whole thing.

But then, I also believe in the Dulce base story
I must be a real cracker

Speaking of Deep Underground Military Bases Like DULCE

LOL .. If you Want to be A Real Cracker ...

Watch this !

Battle Beneath the Earth
Battle Beneath the Earth (1967) is a British spy film starring Kerwin Mathews. It was released by Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer.
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The plot involves rogue elements of the communist Chinese army who use _javascript:external()fantastic burrowing machines in an effort to place atomic bombs under major U.S. cities. The U.S. Navy sends troops underground to combat them. The film has been described as "deliriously paranoid"

Battle Beneath the Earth (1967)
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A Chinese general goes berserk and has a system of tunnels dug all the way from China to USA, under the Pacific Ocean! Wherever there is an important military base, he places atomic bombs. US Navy soldiers go underground to repel the invaders.

A super Cheese Sci FI SPY Movie




That Talks about a Rock Melting Tunneling Machine..

How Awesome as a Claimed Whistle Blower Underground Base Builder Contractor Phil Schneider Talked about
in the 1990s

Now You May say ... This movie is what Phil Schneider may of got the Idea From! ?

Well here is a slight views the Patent !! from the 70s ? but this movie was made in 1967


Apparatus and method for large tunnel excavation in hard rock
US 3885832 A
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Method and apparatus for tunneling by melting
US 3693731 A
Abstract
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Formation of load-bearing foundations by laser-beam irradiation of the soil
US 4019331 A
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And these American Nazi Made Ufos were Supposedly Back Engineered from Aliens
and also the Rumor of Nazi Germany Started Building them from the cause of a Accidental Experiment Idea Of Time Traveling to Dimensional Skipping that went Wrong . Also Derived from Nazi Scientist going to India Searching for Ancient Sanskrit Writings talking about a inter dimension traveling machine Supposedly LOL And these Flying Machine's ( ARV )
ARE SUPPOSEDLY IN UNDERGROUND BASES IN USA, Brazil , Germany/Switzerland and Antarctica..

The One of the few things I find Laughable in this Ordeal ! The Submarine Airlock Door but hey if it Work it Works We are talking about the 1940s & 1950s when the Things were Built ! OLD OLD OLD! If They Exist..

. . . it is a given that there are paid agents on this forum.

I largely rely on Alex Jones’ website to help me understand how the shadow/secret/parallel government accomplishes its objectives.

When I said it is a given that there are paid agents on this forum I probably had learned it from his website.

I will read his articles but then I want a dot gov URL to see how he backs up his contention.

Looking for an example, I searched infowars.com with the search term “government admits they pay agents on social media.”

That brought up a story “Social Security Administration Now Hiring for Counterintelligence Operations.”

Scrolling through the story I kept checking links until I came to a dot gov.

It shows up in the “during a webcast” link:

“When bad things happen, the American people should hear it from us, not as a scoop on the Drudge Report,” George Little, assistant to the secretary of defense for public affairs said during a webcast.

www.infowars.com...

The next dot gov shows up at "April 2009 speech on fusion centers given before the Committee of Homeland Security":

In an April 2009 speech on fusion centers given before the Committee of Homeland Security, Robert Riegle, a former director for the Department of Homeland Security, mentioned deploying 34 Intelligence Operations Specialists to serve as a “critical link” between the fusion centers and DHS.

www.infowars.com...

You get the idea.

In my opinion, this is how we have to inform ourselves about what’s going on.

Take advantage of the people who devote their lives researching these things, and then check their sources.

I'm still working on finding a dot gov source that pertains more specifically to the government hiring paid agents to post on forums. It won't be worded that way, of course, but it's up to us to interpret.