EU President Blair - Traitor to Britain

Evidence of Tony Blair's desire to become EU President has been available for almost two years, although I believe that it was on his agenda since first becoming Prime Minister of Britain in 1997.

In 1998 under Blair's Crime and Disorder Act, the death penalty (which had been retained for the capital offences of treason and piracy with violence) was abolished. I believe that this was to avoid the possibility of a captial charge hanging over his head as he plotted and planned to fulfil his agenda - The presidency of the European Union.

In the April of 2003, Alison Hardie of The Scotsman reported that ...

TONY Blair yesterday increased speculation that he wants to become the president of Europe when he claimed that the European Union must speak with a single voice on foreign policy.

The call was the clearest sign yet that Mr Blair could pitch to become the future president of Europe after stepping down as Prime Minister ...

... The Conservatives claimed Mr Blair�s suggestion amounted to a "sell-out" of Britain�s interests ...

"It is a sad reflection on the Prime Minister that after the courage he has shown on Iraq, he is prepared to sell out fundamental British interests in order to rebuild relations with Europe," [Michael Ancram] said. "To cap it all, the betrayal is compounded by his ambition to create a job for himself as president of Europe."

Similarly, The Times reported that ...

Mr Blair has been linked to the new post [President of EU], which, conveniently, is likely to come into being in 2006, a year or so after the next general election.

Following these reports, a WorldNetDaily article points to the creation of a One World Government, based on the EU and that ...

... Blair's eyes are on the prize, come 2006. But his dilemma is this: The price of his becoming president of Europe is surrender of his country's sovereignty.

Which leads me to the question of Blair's loyalty to his country.
It is my opinion that he has none. Britain is merely a stepping stone to the completion of his true agenda. Like Gollum, he wants 'The Preciousssss' and what is precious is to Blair is the Presidency of the EU.

Hopefully, as happened to Tolkien's literary creation, Tony Blair's own treacherous actions will bring about his downfall,

The Scotsman 17 Apr 2003 - Blair hints at new role as EU president

The Times April 17, 2003 - Convention backs Blair's plan for EU presidency

WorldNetDaily - Tony Blair: President of Europe?

UK Law - Death Penalty

Blair is a traitor to our country and has given us a bad name to most Europeans. I dont believe a word of anything he says anymore, traitor is an understatement....

Problem is this... if there is ever a EU president position opened up, the first president is going to have to walk straight and narrow and not make too many bold policy decisions, otherwise some member countries - especially those who aren't convinced having a EU president is a good idea in the first place - would start looking for the door.

In other words, the first president is going to have to keep Europe together, and for that it's going to take someone who's *not* controversial. That excludes Gerhard Schroeder, Jacques Chirac or Tony Blair.

My candidates would be:

- Former German chancellor Helmut Kohl, the man who reunited Germany
- Former French Prime Minister �douard Balladur - a social-conservative who worked well with Mitterrand's socialist administration and is not associated with Chirac.
- Former Irish President Mary Robinson, the first female president of Ireland, presently UN High Commissioner for Human Rights.

This is supposing, of course, that the EU presidency will be a position with real power. It could also be a symbolic presidency who serves as the "talking head" of the European Parliament, as it were.

I couldn't care less what a bunch of tory papers have been saying in the UK (for years) about this supposed desire Tony Blair is (according to them) meant to have about becoming EU President.

It's such a load of crap lapped up by the Blair hating fringe.....as opposed to the mere opponents. (I guess that is just a sign of his success though when you can engender such strong feelings).

In my view there is absolutely zero prospect of Tony Blair either standing for or being elected EU President anyway.

This is just part of what passes for the usual political 'backdrop' in the UK; it's meant to make people think he's not really acting for 'our' interests but his own with the foreigners later.

Pathetic.....almost a laughable as that 'demon eyes' cretinous rubbish.

Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
In my view there is absolutely zero prospect of Tony Blair either standing for or being elected EU President anyway.

Agreed.
The people dont trust him and nore do the cats at the EU. He destroyed his own dream when he went against the people and Europe.

Blair certainly has an egotistical trait, he see's all past Labour Governments as failed due to them not gaining two successive terms. So it would be no suprise that he would want more power, President of the EU would give him that.

In my opinion Blair is a traitor to our best interests and i wonder what 'Life after Blair' will be like...i hope apathy doesn't increase due to Blair's recent actions over Iraq etc. As we all know the Conservatives are going through the 'Wilderness Years' - they hardly look capable of winning the next election, so no competition there. For Labour to get my vote at the next general election, they would need not only a new leader but also to be commited to Clause IV (redistribution of income and commitment to equality).

Originally posted by Scarface
Blair certainly has an egotistical trait,

- He's a politician, it goes with the territory. It might not always be pleasant but it doesn't have to be a disbarment.....afterall if no-one wants to do the job what do we do for political administration in our country?

he see's all past Labour Governments as failed due to them not gaining two successive terms.

- Damn straight. and he's going to be part of them getting a 3rd straight win/term.
You can't do jack 'S' in opposition.

So it would be no suprise that he would want more power, President of the EU would give him that.

- It might have been a daydream once (if ever) but having been UK PM for so long he has said he has said a further 4 - 5 yrs and that is enough of politics at the top level.....why is it assumed that everyone would want to just go on and on and on (to coin a phrase!)?

In my opinion Blair is a traitor to our best interests

- A "traitor". Oooooh strong stuff.....as opposed to what?
An ideologically pure ultra left-winger, all ideological purity and never the slightest chance of any electoral appeal and power to implement a Labour party program?

and i wonder what 'Life after Blair' will be like...i hope apathy doesn't increase due to Blair's recent actions over Iraq etc.

- It's an odd thing. There always seems a funny period of adjustment when PM's have been around for so long.

Look at Maggie. Loathed by significant sections of society yet parts of her personality were even acknowledged by here opponents as admirable.
My money is on similar with Blair.....although like Mrs T there will always be the slightly disturbing blind pathologically obsessive hatred too.

As we all know the Conservatives are going through the 'Wilderness Years' - they hardly look capable of winning the next election, so no competition there.

- Our 'first past the post' electoral system and the fact that Howard is now polling worse than Hague or IDS pretty well guarantee that.

The UK tory party is dead, they just haven't fallen down yet.

For Labour to get my vote at the next general election, they would need not only a new leader but also to be commited to Clause IV (redistribution of income and commitment to equality).

- Wow, Clause 4 eh?
It's been about 10yrs since they removed that one from the party constitution matey.
You'll be waiting a long time for it's return.

Do you really see a significant move to the 'left' (which clause 4 - the committment to the common public ownership of the means of production - would clearly signify) would give any additional wider electoral appeal to Labour?!

Originally posted by infinite

Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
In my view there is absolutely zero prospect of Tony Blair either standing for or being elected EU President anyway.

Any chance he's an aspiring dictator? A la Bush? I'm asking because i dont know the politics in England or how what i said could come about.

Any thoughts?

Originally posted by dgtempe

Any chance he's an aspiring dictator? A la Bush? I'm asking because i dont know the politics in England or how what i said could come about.

Any thoughts?

- You must have missed his announcement a short while ago to call it a day after the next term of office should he and the Labour party be successfully relected here in the coming general election (which is expected spring/summer of '05 but legally it could be as late as summer '06).

Basically he is saying he will (if elected) carry on doing the job for another 4.5 - 5.5 years and then step down.
3 terms is quite enough for anyone I think is the idea.

(I quite like the idea of term limits for individuals and I think a 'run' as top job holder of 12- 15yrs more than enough (this would be the time in office for 3 'terms' if the gov goes the usual 4yrs between elections here or the maximum possible 5yrs).....I'd rather not see another slightly sad and embarrassing case of the slowly, but noticeably and very publicly, going a bit loopy....� la Mrs Thatcher at the end of her terms.
She had 3 straight election victories but was ejected just over half way through the third, at the 11yr mark, as she was becoming a liability to her party and her 'strange' behaviour was getting all too noticable.
I think it was her 'Royal - speak' as she told the press of the birth of her grandchild that finally did it..... "We(!) are a grandmother", indeed. Jayszuss. )

This self-imposed limit has been a major surprise for many politics watchers here in the UK.
It's not often a comparitely young politician (especially one so successful) actually puts a limit to their time at the top; in fact it's pretty unheard of and has caused much debate.

Personally I take the view that it's just another little step towards grown up politics, but that's just me.



[edit on 3-12-2004 by sminkeypinkey]

To me tony blair should quit politics and become a model hes dman sexy (i dont know why im attracted hes old enough to be my grandfather) however to me he seems like a yes man that doesnt think for himself Be quiet and strip mr blair!

what ive read on blair is hes pretty sinister in my opinion a one world dictator is the ultimant power having one person take over the world will definantly peeve off a lot of people

a slightly off the topic topic i think arnold sWARzaneggers' proposition for a foreign president might tie in with Blair being a possible president of the US as well as EU or possibly someone else besides blair >

Originally posted by muttmutt
a slightly off the topic topic i think arnold sWARzaneggers' proposition for a foreign president might tie in with Blair being a possible president of the US as well as EU or possibly someone else besides blair >

How can Blair be president of the US??

Originally posted by infinite
How can Blair be president of the US??

- President of the US, President of the world.....what's going on?!

Surely the current propaganda line is that he's going to try to be President of the EU, isn't it?

Oh no don't tell me someone is 'off message'!
You'll dilute the 'impact' of the propaganda line!

Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
- President of the US, President of the world.....what's going on?!

There is a small number of Americans who admire Blair so much that a website was made to "Vote Blair" in the American election

ANYWAYS, back to the subject..

Blair EU president....pffft pleeease