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Libertarians get thrown into Other Idealogies?

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posted on Dec, 4 2004 @ 12:20 AM
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Originally posted by SkepticOverlord]

Yes... you and I (I'm closer to Libertarian than anything), are conservative. You're confusing neo-moral-conservatism for "conservatism". Both flavors of "conservative" fit within the conservative ideology forum. If we fall victim to confusing what really is conservative like the rest of the world (it seems), we'll need to change this board's motto to "deny history".


I like this


That is true, but couldnt socialism also fall into either one? I think we are getting tripped up by the word "Libertarian" as standing for a party and also standing for a way of thinking.




posted on Dec, 6 2004 @ 08:41 PM
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I agree with Amuk.

Also, how is libertarianISM (note the 'ism') a party? That is like saying conservativism is a party, or liberalism is a party. I just don't get it.



posted on Dec, 8 2004 @ 04:51 PM
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First off I'd like to say that there should be some sort of libertarian board because it is basically one of the big four of the political compass. But against it libertarianism can basically fall into every one of the new sections here outside of socialism probably. Libertarians can be conservative, liberal, and anarchist, and the libertarian population of the boards could easily find a niche to dwell within. Again I support the idea but I can see why they didn’t.


Originally posted by devilwasp
i want a comunist one!!!
up the comunism!
na but seriosly liberals rock.

Socialism leads directly to what and is based off the combined works of whom? Socialism and Communism go hand in hand, no need for separate boards. And communism has two M’s. Just a note.


Originally posted by BeingWatchedByThem
In a rare and unprecedented move, libertarians have started a war with the socialist!

Never mind that concepts cannot fight each other


Originally posted by BeingWatchedByThem
They have called for the Socialist to surrender their forum, or face utter destruction. The socialist, whom gave up their firearms to the government, are poorly armed with sticks and stones. The libertarians are armed to the teeth, and awaiting the socialist's response.

At least learn about an ideology before you attempt to make a long-winded joke about it. Socialists hold the right to hold arms to be an undeniable and unchangeable necessity.


Originally posted by BeingWatchedByThem
"Give it [the forum] up you communal backwards dreamers!" - said one libertarian

"Give it [the forum] up you capitalistic backward dreamers!" - said one socialist


Originally posted by BeingWatchedByThem
"There's about 50 of us, and 3 of them. They have no guns, no ammo, and little economic backing. They''d better surrender." - a libertarian general

Never mind the world’s workers.


Originally posted by Off_The_Street
Libertarianism as a philosophy is completely different from "conservatism", "liberalism", "socialism", "fascism", or "communism", inasmuch as all of those approaches are statist in nature, i.e., they rely on the state (to one extent or another) to coerce the individual into doing their bidding.

Here is where I became a bit weary, but you got the benefit of the doubt.


Originally posted by Off_The_Street
Socialists and Communists, of course, are merely more extreme and perverted statists, even more anti-freedom than the "liberals" (but not much); while Fascists are equally culpable, and even more perverted than the "conservatives" (but not much).

OWWW!! Swing and a miss, I was hopeful you’d gotten four out of five correct but, sigh…
Socialists and Communists are extreme opponents of the power of the state insomuch as the ENTIRE IDEOLOGY IS BASED OFF ELIMINATING IT. Furthermore under said system everything is communally controlled by the workers, which would turn out to be everyone. Meaning that all would have equal opportunity and influence and no one would hold true power over others, sounds like the term democracy at its highest form to me…


Originally posted by Amuk
That is true, but couldn’t socialism also fall into either one?

Socialists say no to capitalism.
Liberals/Democrats say yes.
Conservatives/Republicans say yes.

I really wouldn't think so.



Sorry about that, I simply felt that the socialists were getting too bad a rep here. And again thumbs
to a libertarean board, even though your misguided.


[edit on 043131p://333 by socrepLT]



posted on Dec, 8 2004 @ 10:05 PM
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Originally posted by socrepLT


Originally posted by BeingWatchedByThem
In a rare and unprecedented move, libertarians have started a war with the socialist!

Never mind that concepts cannot fight each other


Originally posted by BeingWatchedByThem
They have called for the Socialist to surrender their forum, or face utter destruction. The socialist, whom gave up their firearms to the government, are poorly armed with sticks and stones. The libertarians are armed to the teeth, and awaiting the socialist's response.

At least learn about an ideology before you attempt to make a long-winded joke about it. Socialists hold the right to hold arms to be an undeniable and unchangeable necessity.


Originally posted by BeingWatchedByThem
"Give it [the forum] up you communal backwards dreamers!" - said one libertarian

"Give it [the forum] up you capitalistic backward dreamers!" - said one socialist


Originally posted by BeingWatchedByThem
"There's about 50 of us, and 3 of them. They have no guns, no ammo, and little economic backing. They''d better surrender." - a libertarian general

Never mind the world’s workers.

And again thumbs
to a libertarean board, even though your misguided.


[edit on 043131p://333 by socrepLT]


Umm... let me respond and tell you IT'S A JOKE, an exaggeration. A parody of the hostilies the libertarians on the board are throwing at the socialist forum, because we don't have our own forum. And thank you for supporting the creation of a libertarianism forum.



posted on Dec, 8 2004 @ 11:10 PM
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Originally posted by BeingWatchedByThem
Umm... let me respond and tell you IT'S A JOKE, an exaggeration. A parody of the hostilies the libertarians on the board are throwing at the socialist forum, because we don't have our own forum. And thank you for supporting the creation of a libertarianism forum.

Yeah, I probably came off a little harsh there. Mistook a joke for general stupidity I normally see. Oops, sorry.


And as for the libertarian board I have had something of a change of heart. At first I thought that a new board should simply be created. And some others thought it should replace the socialism board. Well I have come with the best of both worlds and here is my plan. Get rid of the liberal and conservative boards and replace it with the libertarian one! Seriously, I've been to both of those and they are terribly pointless. Just combine the two and make one liberal/ conservative board for them all to pointlessly whine and jeer while we all sit back and chuckle. It’s flawless!!




 
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