Interesting comments on this thread.
First, let me point out that marriage is not secular, but is religious. You merely think it is secular because the government, not wanting to miss a
dime, expects you to purchase a "marriage license".
Should the president be a Christian? Well, let's think about what John Jay, one of the drafters of the Constitution and the first Chief Justice of
the USSC thought. He said that as this is a Christian Nation, we have the responsibility to elect Christian leaders. Gee, I wonder what he
meant by that?
Does the Declaration of Independence mention God, perhaps? Let's look:
"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and
to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent
respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that
among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
Take note, those of you who say that ours is not a Christian nation, born of Christians; if you win, and God is thrown out, guess who that means gave
you those rights....the government! If that be the case, who has authority to take them away? You guessed it. If you were smart, you'd change your
position no matter what you believe!
Is there anymore in that document? Let me look....
"And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives,
our Fortunes and our sacred Honor."
Yup, there was. The very last sentence. Seems the Declaration of Independence is framed in Divineness!
How about the first President? We all know that he was such a devout believer in Christ that he he is said to have spent as much time on his knees
praying as he did on his feet, but where did he stand as far as separation of his beliefs and the office he held?
Let's read the Proclamation of Thanksgiving, dated 1789:
"Whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly
to implore His protection and favor; and Whereas both Houses of Congress have, by their joint committee, requested me to "recommend to the people of
the United States a day of public thanksgiving and prayer, to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many and signal favors of Almighty
God, especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness:"
Now, therefore, I do recommend and assign Thursday, the 26th day of November next, to be devoted by the people of these States to the service of that
great and glorious Being who is the beneficent author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be; that we may then all unite in rendering unto
Him our sincere and humble thanks for His kind care and protection of the people of this country previous to their becoming a nation; for the signal
and manifold mercies and the favorable interpositions of His providence in the course and conclusion of the late war; for the great degree of
tranquility, union, and plenty which we have since enjoyed; for the peaceable and rational manner in which we have been enable to establish
constitutions of government for our safety and happiness, and particularly the national one now lately instituted for the civil and religious liberty
with which we are blessed, and the means we have of acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge; and, in general, for all the great and various favors
which He has been pleased to confer upon us.
And also that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations and beseech Him to pardon
our national and other transgressions; to enable us all, whether in public or private stations, to perform our several and relative duties properly
and punctually; to render our National Government a blessing to all the people by constantly being a Government of wise, just, and constitutional
laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed; to protect and guide all sovereigns and nations (especially such as have shown kindness to us),
and to bless them with good governments, peace, and concord; to promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue, and the increase of
science among them and us; and, generally to grant unto all mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as He alone knows to be best.
Given under my hand, at the city of New York, the 3d day of October, A.D. 1789.
Hmm, sounds a bit religious, if you ask me.
Ben Franklin was mentioned on this thread somewhere in a manner that would lead one to believe he was against religion in the government place, but
the funny thing is, he is the one that admonished us, saying that the only way this experiment in society would succeed was with Christian ethics,
morals and principles. Now, how do you suppose you'll learn such principles and morals? By watching Desparate Housewives? Maybe Nip/Tuck?
John Adams was also mentioned. Here is his Proclamation of Thanksgiving. Darned athiest!
"As the safety and prosperity of nations ultimately and essentially depend on the protection and the blessing of Almighty God, and the national
acknowledgment of this truth is not only an indispensable duty which the people owe to Him, but a duty whose natural influence is favorable to the
promotion of that morality and piety without which social happiness can not exist nor the blessings of a free government be enjoyed; and as this duty,
at all times incumbent, is so especially in seasons of difficulty or of danger, when existing or threatening calamities, the just judgments of God
against prevalent iniquity, are a loud call to repentance and reformation; and as the United States of America are at present placed in a hazardous
and afflictive situation by the unfriendly disposition, conduct, and demands of a foreign power, evinced by repeated refusals to receive our
messengers of reconciliation and peace, by depredations on our commerce, and the infliction of injuries on very many of our fellow-citizens while
engaged in their lawful business on the seas--under these considerations it has appeared to me that the duty of imploring the mercy and benediction of
Heaven on our country demands at this time a special attention from its inhabitants.
I have therefore thought fit to recommend, and I do hereby recommend, that Wednesday, the 9th day of May next, be observed throughout the United
States as a day of solemn humiliation, fasting, and prayer; that the citizens of these States, abstaining on that day from their customary worldly
occupations, offer their devout addresses to the Father of Mercies agreeably to those forms or methods which they have severally adopted as the most
suitable and becoming; that all religious congregations do, with the deepest humility, acknowledge before God the manifold sins and transgressions
with which we are justly chargeable as individuals and as a nation, beseeching Him at the same time, of His infinite grace, through the Redeemer of
the World, freely to remit all our offenses, and to incline us by His Holy Spirit to that sincere repentance and reformation which may afford us
reason to hope for his inestimable favor and heavenly benediction; that it be made the subject of particular and earnest supplication that our country
may be protected from all the dangers which threaten it; that our civil and religious privileges may be preserved inviolate and perpetuated to the
latest generations; that our public councils and magistrates may be especially enlightened and directed at this critical period; that the American
people may be united in those bonds of amity and mutual confidence and inspired with that vigor and fortitude by which they have in times past been so
highly distinguished and by which they have obtained such invaluable advantages; that the health of the inhabitants of our land may be preserved, and
their agriculture, commerce, fisheries, arts, and manufactures be blessed and prospered; that the principles of genuine piety and sound morality may
influence the minds and govern the lives of every description of our citizens, and that the blessings of peace, freedom, and pure religion may be
speedily extended to all the nations of the earth.
And Finally, I recommend that on the said day the duties of humiliation and prayer be accompanied by fervent thanksgiving to the Bestower of Every
Good Gift, not only for His having hitherto protected and preserved the people of these United States in the independent enjoyment of their religious
and civil freedom, but also for having prospered them in a wonderful progress of population, and for conferring on them many and great favors
conducive to the happiness and prosperity of a nation.
Given under my hand and the seal of the United States of America, at Philadelphia, this 23d day of march, A. D. 1798, and of the Independence of the
said States the twenty-second.
I doubt anyone read all of that, but there it is. The evidence is still there, and in his own words. Doesn't sound like an anti-God fella to me.
Especially since those are the words of a presidential proclamation (official, governmental type action).
What about Jefferson? He is always the banner-boy of every anti-Christian type who screams that Christian should keep their beliefs in their own
homes.Could some things have been taken out of context in order to make him look like a non-Christian?
Old Tom wrote a letter to the Danbury Baptist church, who'd sent him a congratulatory letter for winning presidency. While the letter was used to
explain why he didn't issue a proclamation of thanksgiving and fasting as president, he was apt to using vague language invoking God in other
official statements. Interesting enough, this man who was supposed to be so anti-Christian regularly attended church services that were held in none
other than (hold on to your hats, ladies) the House of Representatives!
How could Jefferson be against Christianity in America if his treaty with the Kaskaia Indians provided public money for the tribe's Roman Catholic
priest and Church? Strange, huh? Don't worry, that was cut off when the aid reached $500,000 annually. A fella could have a pretty good time in
Vegas with all that! Pardon the Dr. Strangelove flashback at the end, there)
How has history been revised? Simple. We allowed it to be revised; taught in the classrooms and fed to us in the media. We've been told the lie so
many times that we believe it. I am giving you the facts, as I love facts. You may embrace them, or you may allow the lie to continue to hold onto
your heart - that's your choice. As far as I'm concerned, there is no way to fight against the calculated attack against this nation that has been
drunk with prosperity for too many years to defend itself from the offensives conducted by those who with to destroy it.
I'll finish this essay with the words of Ronald Reagan:
"The Constitution was never meant to prevent people from praying; its declared purpose was to protect their freedom of prayer."