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Lost Ancient High Technology Of Egypt Before The Pharaohs Part 1 - 2 Brien Foerster

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posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 07:24 AM
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a reply to: JamesTB

The date is unimportant in proving that the tech i suggested was used, as hammerstones are stone age tech so they could be 100,000 years old and my point still stands. I've personally experienced the effect of stricking one rock on another - i'm an occasional Flintknapper and use granit hammerstones to strike cores of flint. You be surprise how quickly the granite (and quartzite etc) wears as a result of this.

You really should take a look at Stone age granite work, you'd learn something if only you'd examine the evidence. Did stone age man make granite axes with an angle grinder or a vibrating drill? please do some research on that before you answer the question.




posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 07:29 AM
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originally posted by: skalla
a reply to: JamesTB

The date is unimportant in proving that the tech i suggested was used, as hammerstones are stone age tech so they could be 100,000 years old and my point still stands. I've personally experienced the effect of stricking one rock on another - i'm an occasional Flintknapper and use granit hammerstones to strike cores of flint. You be surprise how quickly the granite (and quartzite etc) wears as a result of this.

You really should take a look at Stone age granite work, you'd learn something if only you'd examine the evidence. Did stone age man make granite axes with an angle grinder or a vibrating drill? please do some research on that before you answer the question.



Regardless this was not produced in that manner no way -


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If you think it was then we'll just have to disagree.



posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 07:33 AM
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a reply to: JamesTB

Seriously, limestone is not that difficult to shape and polish. Human history is a history of stone working - it's no shock that we are good at it.

Please consider the points that i have made though - i am a traditional crafter and i've worked with many other trad crafters too including stone masons.

I'd tell you about my back ground in Archaeology too but i know that's worse than working for the gubbermunt so i'll not bother.


ETA: some people look at pics like the last one you posted and think "imagine the time and skill that went in to making that", while others froth at the mouth and go "some koynd of advanced power tools" or "aliens"

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posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 07:38 AM
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originally posted by: skalla
a reply to: JamesTB

Seriously, limestone is not that difficult to shape and polish. Human history is a history of stone working - it's no shock that we are good at it.

Please consider the points that i have made though - i am a traditional crafter and i've worked with many other trad crafters too including stone masons.

I'd tell you about my back ground in Archaeology too but i know that's worse than working for the gubbermunt so i'll not bother.



I totally understand what you are saying but we are not talking about working the odd stone/statue there are millions upon millions of these cut and shaped stones in and around the Giza Plateau some made of material much harder than limestone and weighing 10's of tonnes. But not only that once the stones have been cut and transported how did they get them into place? Climbing up the pyramids is exhausting enough so how on Earth did they get 50 ton plus blocks up there?



posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 07:42 AM
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a reply to: JamesTB

With a lot of time and effort, what a lot of the "power tool" and "highly advanced lifting gear" proponents seem to ignore is that the great pyramid would have been made in about 5 years with a fraction of the manpower.



posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 07:45 AM
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a reply to: pheonix358

I see something like this a little more basic mind you and probably powered by water....Rock Saw or this
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posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 07:47 AM
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originally posted by: skalla
a reply to: JamesTB

With a lot of time and effort, what a lot of the "power tool" and "highly advanced lifting gear" proponents seem to ignore is that the great pyramid would have been made in about 5 years with a fraction of the manpower.



5 years to build the great pyramid? You're right I never realized that! lol



posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 08:15 AM
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a reply to: pheonix358


So, 2551 - 2472 BC the Pharaoh comes along and sees the Pyramid and says, OMM, (that is OMG but the Pharaoh is a god so it is Oh My Me ) What a great tomb for me. Make that into a tomb!

So they rake out all of the old mortar and replace it with fresh mortar that they mix themselves. Luckily for us they use wood ash as one of the ingredients to make the mortar.


They took samples from all over the pyramid, and deep into the interior where it was exposed. They didn't find any samples that were in the 10-12,000 range.

The "rebuilt" idea has no merit, not unless you want to argue that Khufu completely disassembled the entire structure and rebuilt it from the ground up, which is ludicrous. If he had found it and added some repairs, tuckpointing where necessary then the carbon-dating project would surely have found samples of older mortar as well. They didn't.

Analysis of the core stone themselves have confirmed the quarry site that produced them (just south of the Great Pyramid), and study of those quarries, the worker village, the ovens they used to make their bread, graves, and all the other things archeologists love to study in minutia confirm the work done there originated in the 4th dynasty.



posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 08:22 AM
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originally posted by: Painterz
Yes, Carbon dating has an error range. But the +/- is usually in tens or hundreds of years, not tens of thousands.

Carbon Dating has been around along time now, and it's a pretty solid science.

I'm a professionally qualified archaeologist, and the stuff in the video is, in my opinion, complete bunkum.


A professionally qualified archeologist hey?..most people in fields such as this are professionally indoctrinated is a more appropriate term.How sad you feel the need to bring up your qualifications..it speaks volumes and is essentially meaningless.Humans have been lied to about everything we think we know about,that being our past/present and thankfully the veil of lies is being lifted,you do realise all fields of study have been infiltrated by TPTB to move it into the direction that suits their agenda..if that means outright lies, so be it..they will do whatever they can to hide the truth.

We basically have a multitude of advanced structures around the globe all aligning to/on the Earths hyperdimensional energy grid,all encompassing advanced math and sacred geometry (e.g. pi/phi,well before its official discovery)-they are alligned to the constellations indicating knowledge on a par of the current day,many of these blocks are way beyond what can be lifted today-let alone the precision of the cuts and joins..simply put it was high technology responsible..there are so many questionable areas of study here against the official line/lie.

If that wasn't enough we have a great wealth of evidence for ancient nuclear warfare (mohenjo daro being one such place) the only way vitrification (melting of stone) can occur naturally,is when there is a meteorite impact and all the ancient war sites have not been impacted by meteorites,there are no craters being the biggy there lol.

The fact that our true ancestry and origins have been distorted, is yet another piece of this puzzle..we clearly did not evolve from apes and all the tangible evidence is now revealing this.

We also have a vast number of sunken/lost civilisations/cities underwater..200 in the Mediterranean alone.

We have ancient skulls which are clearly not human (Peru) plus many mummies with the elongated skulls also with red and blond hair...people should check out the REAL origins of red hair and the links to the 'tuatha de danaan'/Annunaki who were Irelands original inhabitants,who indeed came from Atlantis..plus so much more if you take the time to unravel this mystery...i mean the likes of Sitchin and the Mahhabarrata are a quite accurate representation of what actually occurred in our past i believe..i recommend reading the Wes Penre papers as this encapsulates everything in all areas.

The PTB know exactly what the deal is and want to suppress humans (as they are not) as much as possible,so will try all they can to hide this..well let me say they will not succeed..thanks to dedicated individuals like the OP who bring awareness to these issues.

In answer to the OP,there is no doubt in my mind that all these structures etc were all built by advanced 'beings' i.e. annunaki,anyone who buys the official line is in need of a wake up call.

Peace



posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 10:01 AM
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a reply to: Buddyman

It is a common argument that when you go to University to study Archaeology, History, Sciences etc that you get indoctrinated. It's simply not true, you are actually taught study skills and asked to question and examine things for your self and support your conclusions with evidence and a well constructed argument.

Inconvenient i know.



posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 10:08 AM
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originally posted by: JamesTB

originally posted by: Harte

originally posted by: JamesTB

There are millions upon millions of massive stone blocks on the Giza Plateau all shaped and placed with precision

What a crock.



"Shaped and placed with precision," eh?

When did you last have your eyes checked?

Harte


Yeah look at this shoddy work so fine water couldn't pass through it -


s30.postimg.org...

One pair of stones does not equal "millions and millions of massive stone blocks ... all shaped and placed with precision.

The interior surfaces in the various chambers and passageways are quite well done.
But let's not pretend that "all" the stones are shaped and fitted "precisely." I mean, it's pretty damn obvious they aren't.

Harte



posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 10:13 AM
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originally posted by: Harte

originally posted by: JamesTB

There are millions upon millions of massive stone blocks on the Giza Plateau all shaped and placed with precision

What a crock.



"Shaped and placed with precision," eh?

When did you last have your eyes checked?

Harte


Oh, I dunno, for thousands of years old, and missing the cover stones, I think it looks pretty good, far better than anything you could build would look after that many years. And you're not looking at the interior stones in the grand gallery and the King's Chamber here, which are obviously a jaw dropping work of precision; then there's the astronomical and mathematical correlations in the placement of the pyramids. Why would anyone bother, for a tomb?

What gets me thinking is seeing modern-day Cairo, a cacophony of traffic jams mixed with donkeys still carrying market produce, and thinking 'these people couldn't build a pyramid'... if it was so easy that you could get started when a future pharoah was born, and get done before they died at 20 years of age, why aren't they still building them? After all, they're one helluva tourist attraction. And how did they carve out those massive obelisks and separate the bottom layers from the underlaying bedrock? Darned if I can figure it out, and seemingly no one else can, either.



posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 10:21 AM
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originally posted by: pheonix358
a reply to: JamesTB

If you would not mind, look up 'Cathedrals' on wiki and just have a look at the scope of some of the huge ones in Europe. Look at some of the castles as well. They were all done with hand tools and the work, especially the statues, are quite amazing. Most of them were built over just a few decades with reasonably small work forces.

Slaves in the ancient world were not just untrained minions. Most had some sort of trade and it does not take that long to train people in stonework.

With a huge work force anything is possible.

P


The stones used for the cathedrals were no where as large and heavy, were they? Washington Cathedral in D.C. took over a century to build with what I can only presume is an unlimited federal budget and a reasonably LARGE work force, and ample access to power equipment.

And 'a huge work force' is an interesting excuse for the unexplained. How were all these people fed, housed, etc? It would take a massive city of food production workers to feed the people that were working full time on the pyramid. All on the narrow banks of the Nile? Where's the evidence for such large cities of both workers and support personnel? How was simply enough daily water brought in for these tens of thousands of workers?
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posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 10:41 AM
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originally posted by: Harte

originally posted by: JamesTB

originally posted by: Harte

originally posted by: JamesTB

There are millions upon millions of massive stone blocks on the Giza Plateau all shaped and placed with precision

What a crock.



"Shaped and placed with precision," eh?

When did you last have your eyes checked?

Harte


Yeah look at this shoddy work so fine water couldn't pass through it -


s30.postimg.org...

One pair of stones does not equal "millions and millions of massive stone blocks ... all shaped and placed with precision.

The interior surfaces in the various chambers and passageways are quite well done.
But let's not pretend that "all" the stones are shaped and fitted "precisely." I mean, it's pretty damn obvious they aren't.

Harte


But you can't really Judge the quality of it today (how it looks) when it is thousands of years old, where many stone work and huge statues are broken or felt down due some kind of earthquake/catastrofe and (later) human causes.

Can't imagine how that place would look liked if it was all brand new..

Anyways the thing I found interesting in these video's is how many granite stones are looking from the inside as some other kind of material and where erosion in the inside is worse then the outside, like it's crumbeling down from inside.

And I like to watch these video's, if only to see something I haven't seen before and just be amazed at some stone works.
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posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 10:55 AM
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originally posted by: signalfire

originally posted by: Harte

originally posted by: JamesTB

There are millions upon millions of massive stone blocks on the Giza Plateau all shaped and placed with precision

What a crock.



"Shaped and placed with precision," eh?

When did you last have your eyes checked?

Harte


Oh, I dunno, for thousands of years old, and missing the cover stones, I think it looks pretty good, far better than anything you could build would look after that many years. And you're not looking at the interior stones in the grand gallery and the King's Chamber here, which are obviously a jaw dropping work of precision;

Okay....
Now, look at the pic I posted, then tell me, is the following an accurate description of what is shown in the pic?

originally posted by: JamesTB
There are millions upon millions of massive stone blocks on the Giza Plateau all shaped and placed with precision



originally posted by: signalfirethen there's the astronomical and mathematical correlations in the placement of the pyramids. Why would anyone bother, for a tomb?

That's been explained as well. Have you ever tried to answer that question yourself by examining the religious beliefs of the AE's?

Harte



posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 11:57 AM
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originally posted by: Harte

originally posted by: JamesTB

originally posted by: Harte

originally posted by: JamesTB

There are millions upon millions of massive stone blocks on the Giza Plateau all shaped and placed with precision

What a crock.



"Shaped and placed with precision," eh?

When did you last have your eyes checked?

Harte


Yeah look at this shoddy work so fine water couldn't pass through it -


s30.postimg.org...

One pair of stones does not equal "millions and millions of massive stone blocks ... all shaped and placed with precision.

The interior surfaces in the various chambers and passageways are quite well done.
But let's not pretend that "all" the stones are shaped and fitted "precisely." I mean, it's pretty damn obvious they aren't.

Harte


Even worse when they used Ground penetrating radar on the pyramid itself discovered the Egyptians cheated and there is lots of filler in the pyramid basically junk they had left over on site. But realize your arguing with someone that said hyper dimensional vortex with a straight fave some people are just to far gone.



posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 12:24 PM
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i've been listening to forester's videos on youtube. most of it is quite interesting.
this video convinced me that mainstream archaeology is too specialized in their own little niches, to see the overall picture. i think universities should give courses in comparative ancient archaeology.




posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 01:41 PM
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originally posted by: undo
i've been listening to forester's videos on youtube. most of it is quite interesting.
this video convinced me that mainstream archaeology is too specialized in their own little niches, to see the overall picture. i think universities should give courses in comparative ancient archaeology.



Ah, archaeologist don't work in isolation they work in teams with a large number of specialists, the idea you have above is a fringe conspiracy idea to try and explain why they, with no training and large imaginations, are so much smarter than the professionals - they aren't. lol

To ALL


I see I'm late to the party, Blackmarketeer, Harte, Skalla and many others are putting forth the correct information, while James pleads that he is incredulous and that for some reason THAT is valid evidence

It ain't.
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posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 01:45 PM
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originally posted by: JamesTB


You have no interest in this subject all you do is try to shut down any thread which has a different opinion to yours. You haven't even watched these videos by your own admittance you stopped watching after 5 minutes ignoring the 2 hours of footage. Why do you bother?


I have a great interest in this subject and I feel it is necessary to counter false information. I have seen all of this before, nothing new.


Those structures were not built with stone pounders and chisels they are not tombs its obvious that they have a different use. Thankfully people like Brien do have an open inquisitive minds and are making sacrifices to get to the bottom of this mystery.


Tombs, stone pounders is what it was and no amount of fantasy belief will change that. It must be fun to be Brien making up stuff for his fans that has no basis in reality.

Are you Brien?



posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 01:48 PM
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originally posted by: JamesTB

originally posted by: pheonix358
a reply to: JamesTB

OK, I will bite. Let us turn it around a bit.

What powered tool do you know that could do that.

P


Ha! Good question. I don't know of anything which could do that what I am saying is I highly doubt that it was done manually. How about you, how do you think it was done?


Why not try and find in the archaeological record some sign of the development of the technology for such tools?

Nothing but stone tools, pottery and what fits the culture at that time. So how did the AE hide all this technology that only seems to have been used for stone work and nothing else, why is not reflected in say, their health care, military weapons and art?







 
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