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posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 12:19 AM
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Phonicians are Arabs from Yemen immigrated all over the place especially north Africa (Cartage Tunis) and Cartage (spain) and Lebanon shores.
Most Berber came from Europe Denmark the Vandals, their men got wiped out by Justinian, their women Haplogroup U9 (found only in Finland and Sweden) are now the majority of Berber women.
Many Arab Kharijites joined Berber clans since Berber clans are Maternal Ancestry, many African E3b also joined their clans..
Berber kingdoms held sway of North Africa from the hands of Arabs (Moravids, Mohads, Zurids) even have khalifs of Islam, they did not hurt Arabs living there.
The last Berber in Spain the Moors had a man from Umayyad Arab lineage as their leader in the last Moor Uprising against the Spaniards in 1560.
There are a minority of Communists among Berber who call for independence from Arabs, but their worst enemies are the Berber themselves. those communist minority dont count.

Back to Palestine belong to the Palestinians who are mixture of children of Abraham and Isaac from the same stock of Canaanites (yemenis) Abraham was a semite in Iraq from tribe that came from Yemen and the Arabian Peninsula. They did not take the land from non semites. the land was always semites from Yemen. Yemen can claim Palestine but that dont change a thing because Palestinians are Yemenites in origin.

Contemporary world Jews however are not descendents of Abraham or the Semites or the Ancient Israelites. They are imposaters. They are Magog is disguise as the Ancient Israelites. They are not. They are Europpeans from Europe, and to Europe they will go back




posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 12:36 AM
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originally posted by: adnanmuf
Phonicians are Arabs from Yemen immigrated all over the place especially north Africa (Cartage Tunis) and Cartage (spain) and Lebanon shores.
Most Berber came from Europe Denmark the Vandals, their men got wiped out by Justinian, their women Haplogroup U9 (found only in Finland and Sweden) are now the majority of Berber women.
Many Arab Kharijites joined Berber clans since Berber clans are Maternal Ancestry, many African E3b also joined their clans..
Berber kingdoms held sway of North Africa from the hands of Arabs (Moravids, Mohads, Zurids) even have khalifs of Islam, they did not hurt Arabs living there.
The last Berber in Spain the Moors had a man from Umayyad Arab lineage as their leader in the last Moor Uprising against the Spaniards in 1560.
There are a minority of Communists among Berber who call for independence from Arabs, but their worst enemies are the Berber themselves. those communist minority dont count.

Back to Palestine belong to the Palestinians who are mixture of children of Abraham and Isaac from the same stock of Canaanites (yemenis) Abraham was a semite in Iraq from tribe that came from Yemen and the Arabian Peninsula. They did not take the land from non semites. the land was always semites from Yemen. Yemen can claim Palestine but that dont change a thing because Palestinians are Yemenites in origin.

Contemporary world Jews however are not descendents of Abraham or the Semites or the Ancient Israelites. They are imposaters. They are Magog is disguise as the Ancient Israelites. They are not. They are Europpeans from Europe, and to Europe they will go back


Your first paragraph is 100% wrong.

Berbers did not come from Europe.

Phoenicians did not come from Yemen and are not Arabs. They're basically Canaanites.

So according to you Berbers who call for liberation "don't count." Typical and hypocritical Arab perspective given your support of Palestinian independence.

You're second paragraph is pseudo-science.

Jews are 30-70% Near Eastern genetically. Not sure what you're talking about. Palestinians have a similar amount of none-levantine Arabian and other admixture anyway.



posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 12:47 AM
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originally posted by: Jesuslives4u
Hamas and other terrorist are cowards and the Palestine government will not expel these criminals better yet put them in jail for life for terrorism.


And how will they do this, do you think? Fatah already tried to use force of arms against Hamas, with backing from both Israel and the US... and they lost. Right now the Palestinian authority has no power in Gaza, so what on earth do you propose they do? Wish?


They fire their rockets from within civilian neighborhoods at which point the Israelis can pin point exactly from where their rockets were fired from and then they return fire. In the meantime these cowards run away leaving the civilians defenseless and who by the way are innocent.


I hope i am not the only person who sees a problem with using missiles as antipersonnel devices. Imagine if police rolled frag grenades into hostage situations. Same deal. Hamas is in the wrong, but that does not place Israel in the right for their actions. It's not binary, where if one is A then the other must be B. Israel is right to pursue Hamas, but the methods they utilize are destructive and wrong.


So who is at fault? Simple the terrorists. If the Palestine government removed HAMAS and the other terrorist organizations from the Gaza strip the fighting would cease and possibly there would be a chance for peace. But Palestine does not want that do they?


"Palestine" is unable to do this. Even in the West Bank, where the Palestinian authority has actual presence, security falls to israel, which has final say on what the Palestinian security forces can do, even in supposedly "Palestinian" areas of control such as Hebron and Jericho.


Many of us were not around when the U.N. granted Israel its statehood back in 1948. Do you know how Palestine looked in 1948? Why don't you research it. When Israel and its people moved back they found the land given to them filthy, the waters were infested and the land was barren. The Palestine government found it funny and laughed and made jokes until after a few years of hard work and sweat from the Israelites the waters cleaned up and the land became fruitful once again. Once the Palestines saw this they wanted the land back. Does this sound right to you?


This is fiction. Sorry. Palestine was the major exporter of grains and fruits for the British navy in the Eastern Mediterranean and was even more reliable at its production than the British holdings in iraq. Under the Ottomans, Palestine was one of their most valuable holdings, which is why the British made its capture a priority in WW1. Even as late as the British census in 1945, produce and grain from Arab-owned land outstretched that produced from Jewish land by four times - not because Jews were bad farmers mind, but simply because the Arabs of Palestine had far more acreage and more farmers, while the majority of Jews in Palestine were urbanites in Jaffa, Jerusalem and Haifa.


I understand the Palestine/Israel is both a political and religious issue that will never be solved. The hate will always be there. It breaks my heart to see the suffering going on over there ONLY if the people (on both sides) would take matters in their own hands and drag all the politicians and religious leaders outside and make an "example" of them but again neither side would agree to this.


Palestinians really don't have the option to do anything with their sham government, and Israelis seem pretty happy with the governments they keep electing... So no, you're right, that will likely not change anytime soon... Well, barring one thing...


Palestine knows Israel has a great advantage over them but their pride will not let them see clearly.

What are your feelings on this?


I feel you need to study more thoroughly.
edit on 16-7-2014 by TheTengriist because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 12:50 AM
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originally posted by: HisRoyalJewness

originally posted by: adnanmuf
Phonicians are Arabs from Yemen immigrated all over the place especially north Africa (Cartage Tunis) and Cartage (spain) and Lebanon shores.
Most Berber came from Europe Denmark the Vandals, their men got wiped out by Justinian, their women Haplogroup U9 (found only in Finland and Sweden) are now the majority of Berber women.
Many Arab Kharijites joined Berber clans since Berber clans are Maternal Ancestry, many African E3b also joined their clans..
Berber kingdoms held sway of North Africa from the hands of Arabs (Moravids, Mohads, Zurids) even have khalifs of Islam, they did not hurt Arabs living there.
The last Berber in Spain the Moors had a man from Umayyad Arab lineage as their leader in the last Moor Uprising against the Spaniards in 1560.
There are a minority of Communists among Berber who call for independence from Arabs, but their worst enemies are the Berber themselves. those communist minority dont count.

Back to Palestine belong to the Palestinians who are mixture of children of Abraham and Isaac from the same stock of Canaanites (yemenis) Abraham was a semite in Iraq from tribe that came from Yemen and the Arabian Peninsula. They did not take the land from non semites. the land was always semites from Yemen. Yemen can claim Palestine but that dont change a thing because Palestinians are Yemenites in origin.

Contemporary world Jews however are not descendents of Abraham or the Semites or the Ancient Israelites. They are imposaters. They are Magog is disguise as the Ancient Israelites. They are not. They are Europpeans from Europe, and to Europe they will go back


Your first paragraph is 100% wrong.

Berbers did not come from Europe.

Phoenicians did not come from Yemen and are not Arabs. They're basically Canaanites.

So according to you Berbers who call for liberation "don't count." Typical and hypocritical Arab perspective given your support of Palestinian independence.

You're second paragraph is pseudo-science.

Jews are 30-70% Near Eastern genetically. Not sure what you're talking about. Palestinians have a similar amount of none-levantine Arabian and other admixture anyway.


You are talking about genetic studies made by jews from Israel, who are themselves of Haplogroup R1a and E3b (Behar)
I dont know what you mean by 30% of Near Eastewrn. Palestine is only for palestinians not Near Eastern.
and I solved the problem for you, the Jews who entered Palestine from outside of Palestine need to get out of palestine so that Palestinians can go back to their homeland. It does not matter where the Jews come from, they did not come from Palestine.

The communist berber dont represent Berber. Communists are the proletaria of nations they dont have nationality, they are enemies of nationalities by definition. They are enemies of Berber.
edit on 16-7-2014 by adnanmuf because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 01:14 AM
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originally posted by: adnanmuf

originally posted by: HisRoyalJewness

originally posted by: adnanmuf
Phonicians are Arabs from Yemen immigrated all over the place especially north Africa (Cartage Tunis) and Cartage (spain) and Lebanon shores.
Most Berber came from Europe Denmark the Vandals, their men got wiped out by Justinian, their women Haplogroup U9 (found only in Finland and Sweden) are now the majority of Berber women.
Many Arab Kharijites joined Berber clans since Berber clans are Maternal Ancestry, many African E3b also joined their clans..
Berber kingdoms held sway of North Africa from the hands of Arabs (Moravids, Mohads, Zurids) even have khalifs of Islam, they did not hurt Arabs living there.
The last Berber in Spain the Moors had a man from Umayyad Arab lineage as their leader in the last Moor Uprising against the Spaniards in 1560.
There are a minority of Communists among Berber who call for independence from Arabs, but their worst enemies are the Berber themselves. those communist minority dont count.

Back to Palestine belong to the Palestinians who are mixture of children of Abraham and Isaac from the same stock of Canaanites (yemenis) Abraham was a semite in Iraq from tribe that came from Yemen and the Arabian Peninsula. They did not take the land from non semites. the land was always semites from Yemen. Yemen can claim Palestine but that dont change a thing because Palestinians are Yemenites in origin.

Contemporary world Jews however are not descendents of Abraham or the Semites or the Ancient Israelites. They are imposaters. They are Magog is disguise as the Ancient Israelites. They are not. They are Europpeans from Europe, and to Europe they will go back


Your first paragraph is 100% wrong.

Berbers did not come from Europe.

Phoenicians did not come from Yemen and are not Arabs. They're basically Canaanites.

So according to you Berbers who call for liberation "don't count." Typical and hypocritical Arab perspective given your support of Palestinian independence.

You're second paragraph is pseudo-science.

Jews are 30-70% Near Eastern genetically. Not sure what you're talking about. Palestinians have a similar amount of none-levantine Arabian and other admixture anyway.


You are talking about genetic studies made by jews from Israel, who are themselves of Haplogroup R1a and E3b (Behar)
I dont know what you mean by 30% of Near Eastewrn. Palestine is only for palestinians not Near Eastern.
and I solved the problem for you, the Jews who entered Palestine from outside of Palestine need to get out of palestine so that Palestinians can go back to their homeland. It does not matter where the Jews come from, they did not come from Palestine.

The communist berber dont represent Berber. Communists are the proletaria of nations they dont have nationality, they are enemies of nationalities by definition. They are enemies of Berber.


Palestinians are Arabian and Sub-Saharan African - and other non-Levantine- admixed.

Let me be more specific. Jewish are Judeans, natives of Judea, admixed with others.

Berbers deserve independence anyway you try to spin it. So do other Arab occupied peoples such as Western Saharans and Kurds.



posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 01:31 AM
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originally posted by: HisRoyalJewness
Berbers deserve independence anyway you try to spin it. So do other Arab occupied peoples such as Western Saharans and Kurds.


"Arab-occupied peoples"? Really now? You must have a very strange standard of criteria if Moroccans are Arabs but West Saharans (Sahrawis? I'm sure there's a proper noun I don't know) aren't.

You do know that the Maghreb has a pretty large ethnic diversity, with a great amount of admixture, and most people there are only "Arabs" in that they speak Arabic?

...Sort of, I guess, there's this whole thing about dialects, so that Arabic from interior Algeria might as well be Hebrew or Somali, if it's not already an Arabic-Tuareg creole...
edit on 16-7-2014 by TheTengriist because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 01:39 AM
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originally posted by: HisRoyalJewness

originally posted by: adnanmuf

originally posted by: HisRoyalJewness

originally posted by: adnanmuf
Phonicians are Arabs from Yemen immigrated all over the place especially north Africa (Cartage Tunis) and Cartage (spain) and Lebanon shores.
Most Berber came from Europe Denmark the Vandals, their men got wiped out by Justinian, their women Haplogroup U9 (found only in Finland and Sweden) are now the majority of Berber women.
Many Arab Kharijites joined Berber clans since Berber clans are Maternal Ancestry, many African E3b also joined their clans..
Berber kingdoms held sway of North Africa from the hands of Arabs (Moravids, Mohads, Zurids) even have khalifs of Islam, they did not hurt Arabs living there.
The last Berber in Spain the Moors had a man from Umayyad Arab lineage as their leader in the last Moor Uprising against the Spaniards in 1560.
There are a minority of Communists among Berber who call for independence from Arabs, but their worst enemies are the Berber themselves. those communist minority dont count.

Back to Palestine belong to the Palestinians who are mixture of children of Abraham and Isaac from the same stock of Canaanites (yemenis) Abraham was a semite in Iraq from tribe that came from Yemen and the Arabian Peninsula. They did not take the land from non semites. the land was always semites from Yemen. Yemen can claim Palestine but that dont change a thing because Palestinians are Yemenites in origin.

Contemporary world Jews however are not descendents of Abraham or the Semites or the Ancient Israelites. They are imposaters. They are Magog is disguise as the Ancient Israelites. They are not. They are Europpeans from Europe, and to Europe they will go back


Your first paragraph is 100% wrong.

Berbers did not come from Europe.

Phoenicians did not come from Yemen and are not Arabs. They're basically Canaanites.

So according to you Berbers who call for liberation "don't count." Typical and hypocritical Arab perspective given your support of Palestinian independence.

You're second paragraph is pseudo-science.

Jews are 30-70% Near Eastern genetically. Not sure what you're talking about. Palestinians have a similar amount of none-levantine Arabian and other admixture anyway.


You are talking about genetic studies made by jews from Israel, who are themselves of Haplogroup R1a and E3b (Behar)
I dont know what you mean by 30% of Near Eastewrn. Palestine is only for palestinians not Near Eastern.
and I solved the problem for you, the Jews who entered Palestine from outside of Palestine need to get out of palestine so that Palestinians can go back to their homeland. It does not matter where the Jews come from, they did not come from Palestine.

The communist berber dont represent Berber. Communists are the proletaria of nations they dont have nationality, they are enemies of nationalities by definition. They are enemies of Berber.


Palestinians are Arabian and Sub-Saharan African - and other non-Levantine- admixed.

Let me be more specific. Jewish are Judeans, natives of Judea, admixed with others.

Berbers deserve independence anyway you try to spin it. So do other Arab occupied peoples such as Western Saharans and Kurds.

not tru Palestinians are 80% Arabs (including all the remnants of Ancient Israelites), and 20% non Arabs but from neighboring areas who helped the Arabs in their survival.

The Contemporary Jews on the other hand are confirmed 80% Europpeans originated from Central Asia (Haplogroup R, Haplogroup Q, female haplogroup K of the blue eye mutation katia or Katura by name)and 10% E3b of Berber of west of north africa (Morocco), the remaining 10% are are from all over the world not including not even one from the Ancient Israelites.



posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 02:09 AM
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originally posted by: adnanmuf

originally posted by: HisRoyalJewness

originally posted by: adnanmuf

originally posted by: HisRoyalJewness

originally posted by: adnanmuf
Phonicians are Arabs from Yemen immigrated all over the place especially north Africa (Cartage Tunis) and Cartage (spain) and Lebanon shores.
Most Berber came from Europe Denmark the Vandals, their men got wiped out by Justinian, their women Haplogroup U9 (found only in Finland and Sweden) are now the majority of Berber women.
Many Arab Kharijites joined Berber clans since Berber clans are Maternal Ancestry, many African E3b also joined their clans..
Berber kingdoms held sway of North Africa from the hands of Arabs (Moravids, Mohads, Zurids) even have khalifs of Islam, they did not hurt Arabs living there.
The last Berber in Spain the Moors had a man from Umayyad Arab lineage as their leader in the last Moor Uprising against the Spaniards in 1560.
There are a minority of Communists among Berber who call for independence from Arabs, but their worst enemies are the Berber themselves. those communist minority dont count.

Back to Palestine belong to the Palestinians who are mixture of children of Abraham and Isaac from the same stock of Canaanites (yemenis) Abraham was a semite in Iraq from tribe that came from Yemen and the Arabian Peninsula. They did not take the land from non semites. the land was always semites from Yemen. Yemen can claim Palestine but that dont change a thing because Palestinians are Yemenites in origin.

Contemporary world Jews however are not descendents of Abraham or the Semites or the Ancient Israelites. They are imposaters. They are Magog is disguise as the Ancient Israelites. They are not. They are Europpeans from Europe, and to Europe they will go back


Your first paragraph is 100% wrong.

Berbers did not come from Europe.

Phoenicians did not come from Yemen and are not Arabs. They're basically Canaanites.

So according to you Berbers who call for liberation "don't count." Typical and hypocritical Arab perspective given your support of Palestinian independence.

You're second paragraph is pseudo-science.

Jews are 30-70% Near Eastern genetically. Not sure what you're talking about. Palestinians have a similar amount of none-levantine Arabian and other admixture anyway.


You are talking about genetic studies made by jews from Israel, who are themselves of Haplogroup R1a and E3b (Behar)
I dont know what you mean by 30% of Near Eastewrn. Palestine is only for palestinians not Near Eastern.
and I solved the problem for you, the Jews who entered Palestine from outside of Palestine need to get out of palestine so that Palestinians can go back to their homeland. It does not matter where the Jews come from, they did not come from Palestine.

The communist berber dont represent Berber. Communists are the proletaria of nations they dont have nationality, they are enemies of nationalities by definition. They are enemies of Berber.


Palestinians are Arabian and Sub-Saharan African - and other non-Levantine- admixed.

Let me be more specific. Jewish are Judeans, natives of Judea, admixed with others.

Berbers deserve independence anyway you try to spin it. So do other Arab occupied peoples such as Western Saharans and Kurds.

not tru Palestinians are 80% Arabs (including all the remnants of Ancient Israelites), and 20% non Arabs but from neighboring areas who helped the Arabs in their survival.

The Contemporary Jews on the other hand are confirmed 80% Europpeans originated from Central Asia (Haplogroup R, Haplogroup Q, female haplogroup K of the blue eye mutation katia or Katura by name)and 10% E3b of Berber of west of north africa (Morocco), the remaining 10% are are from all over the world not including not even one from the Ancient Israelites.


Israelites are not, nor were ever, Arabs.

You're haplogroup assumptions are pure rubbish.
edit on 16-7-2014 by HisRoyalJewness because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 02:11 AM
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originally posted by: TheTengriist

originally posted by: HisRoyalJewness
Berbers deserve independence anyway you try to spin it. So do other Arab occupied peoples such as Western Saharans and Kurds.


"Arab-occupied peoples"? Really now? You must have a very strange standard of criteria if Moroccans are Arabs but West Saharans (Sahrawis? I'm sure there's a proper noun I don't know) aren't.

You do know that the Maghreb has a pretty large ethnic diversity, with a great amount of admixture, and most people there are only "Arabs" in that they speak Arabic?

...Sort of, I guess, there's this whole thing about dialects, so that Arabic from interior Algeria might as well be Hebrew or Somali, if it's not already an Arabic-Tuareg creole...


Morocco is ruled by an Arabs who suppress Berber culture and occupy Western Sahara. Spin it any way you like.



posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 02:34 AM
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wrong post


edit on 7/16/14 by dragonridr because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 02:42 AM
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originally posted by: HisRoyalJewness
Morocco is ruled by an Arabs who suppress Berber culture and occupy Western Sahara. Spin it any way you like.


Doesn't need spin. What you're saying simply isn't supported by facts, beyond "Morocco is occupying West Sahara.". It looks like you're trying to be as incomprehensible as that other guy in an attempt to try for a "gotcha" moment or something.

I'll say to you what i said to him. Calm down. Deep breaths. Stop flailing.
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posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 02:47 AM
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originally posted by: HisRoyalJewness

originally posted by: TheTengriist

originally posted by: HisRoyalJewness
Berbers deserve independence anyway you try to spin it. So do other Arab occupied peoples such as Western Saharans and Kurds.


"Arab-occupied peoples"? Really now? You must have a very strange standard of criteria if Moroccans are Arabs but West Saharans (Sahrawis? I'm sure there's a proper noun I don't know) aren't.

You do know that the Maghreb has a pretty large ethnic diversity, with a great amount of admixture, and most people there are only "Arabs" in that they speak Arabic?

...Sort of, I guess, there's this whole thing about dialects, so that Arabic from interior Algeria might as well be Hebrew or Somali, if it's not already an Arabic-Tuareg creole...


Morocco is ruled by an Arabs who suppress Berber culture and occupy Western Sahara. Spin it any way you like.


No Before the Great Migrations era of the 5th and 7th centuries AD. all Haplogroups were in their respective lands/continents).
Contemporary Jews are 60%R from central Asia (Magog), Q (of the Khazar and current Central Asia and Eskimo), E3b of the Berber of west of North Africa (morocco), G from India, J2 of Kurds Magusis. That is about it (kurds, Hindis, Berber, Magog) The Ancient Israelites were brothers of the children of Ishmael (ie of the same haplogroup J1, which is rare in Current Jews impostering as Ancient Israelites J1).
Ariel Sharon in 1999 declared that they then knew the DNA of Arabs and can attack them with biological weapons, surely Sharon knew non of his people have the DNA of the Arabs even though Arabs and ancient Israelites are same people same DNA.



posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 04:54 PM
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a reply to: adnanmuf

Actually the study of DNA from israel and palestine was done by the FRENCH if i remember correctly. SO i do not see how israel influenced the testing or outcome. WHich yasser arafat and numerous ex plo will tell you they agree because they know they are not related to who they get the name from.

OH an di noticed you mentioned anchient israelites as owners of palestine land rightfully. So they can own land but cannot call in relatives from europe to come live there is that it?. Just curious.


edit on 14000000pppm by yuppa because: re read a post had to change mind.



posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 05:00 PM
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a reply to: sheepslayer247

I absolutely agree.
Then we have the exact same situation happening in my country. Albanians declared Kosovo as an independent country, and is yet to be fully accepted by the UN. Then my question is this, why isn't this type of thinking applied to the situation in my country? Hypocrisy or something else?



posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 06:18 PM
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originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: adnanmuf

Actually the study of DNA from israel and palestine was done by the FRENCH if i remember correctly. SO i do not see how israel influenced the testing or outcome. WHich yasser arafat and numerous ex plo will tell you they agree because they know they are not related to who they get the name from.

OH an di noticed you mentioned anchient israelites as owners of palestine land rightfully. So they can own land but cannot call in relatives from europe to come live there is that it?. Just curious.

The three studies OccamRazor04 referenced were made by Israelie Jews and are old from 1999 to 2002, We are now in 2014.
Those studies are from the stone age in DNA ancestry studies (haplogroups).

They been refuted by the same researchers like Hammer in 2010.
The Khazar a huge population of 50 million people at that time converted en mass to Judaism in the 8th and 9 century and they did not vanish from the face of the earth because they are the Ashkenazi Jews. Hence the Ashkenazi Jews are the Khazar (the Huns) the cousins of the Goths (Gog) from the Maternal side (Ma???gog)
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posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 06:32 PM
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originally posted by: HisRoyalJewness

Israelites are not, nor were ever, Arabs.

You're haplogroup assumptions are pure rubbish.


Israelites were not Zionists either... Israelites wouldn't allow Homosexuality and Brothels in Israel either... Israelites wouldn't allow Secular Law to rule Israel either... The modern State of Israel from a religious perspective is rubbish.



posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 07:40 PM
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a reply to: tsingtao

Sorry for the delay. Start here, and draw your own conclusions..

Rights
International Law



posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 07:43 PM
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originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: adnanmuf

Actually the study of DNA from israel and palestine was done by the FRENCH if i remember correctly. SO i do not see how israel influenced the testing or outcome. WHich yasser arafat and numerous ex plo will tell you they agree because they know they are not related to who they get the name from.

OH an di noticed you mentioned anchient israelites as owners of palestine land rightfully. So they can own land but cannot call in relatives from europe to come live there is that it?. Just curious.



I so had to give you a star all i could see was them pulling out the sleeper sofa. But your right i read somewhere jews are something along the lines of 5th cousins to all other jews thats actually an incredibly close family. But a large part of that is there religious views if you consider your self jewish you will marry a jewish woman. Now people can be non jewish with jewish ancestry but the deviations increase im sure.



posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 07:47 PM
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a reply to: adnanmuf

I like one Islamic version of Gog and Magog. Gog (The USA) from the land of Magog (England). The hordes of Gog and Magog have been causing a lot of problems in the Middle East over the last century lol



posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 07:59 PM
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originally posted by: DarknStormy

originally posted by: HisRoyalJewness

Israelites are not, nor were ever, Arabs.

You're haplogroup assumptions are pure rubbish.


Israelites were not Zionists either... Israelites wouldn't allow Homosexuality and Brothels in Israel either... Israelites wouldn't allow Secular Law to rule Israel either... The modern State of Israel from a religious perspective is rubbish.


Your generalizing first orthodox Jews dont agree with either one and often show there displeasure. Reform Judaism is very liberal and there is opinions running all the way between the two.As for why prostitution is legal is simple its never been illegal in the holy land and yes it was around even with Israelites. But brothels are now illegal interestingly not because of prostitution but to limit the Russian mafia. During the 90s they brought in Russian woman major trafficking started .Most of the prostitutes are Russian be interested to know there biggest customer is Arabs. As for homosexuality Jews believe its wrong but they also believe its your decision again just like Israelites even when Rome occupied the area they simply taught it was wrong but the Romans made the rules. So publicly has always been tolerated.

Funny how your prejudice shows by convincing yourself of generalities realize any population has many people with many opinions.



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