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originally posted by: joelr
Gluons are detected in the 3-jet event but there are many other confirmations of gluons and quantum chromodynamics from data collected that exactly agrees with QCD.
Unlike a photon you cannot have a free gluon.
but there are many other confirmations of gluons and quantum chromodynamics from data collected that exactly agrees with QCD.
originally posted by: KrzYma
originally posted by: joelr
originally posted by: ImaFungi
So is it true, as Kryzma is arguing; that particle detectors detect using solely EM radiation; or is there not even a conceivable way to detect anything without using EM radiation?
No it is not true. To detect particles they have to interact with something. There are different types of detection devices like cloud chambers, muon chambers, sometimes you detect particles by looking for missing energy or using dense material to cause a decay event.
you guys don't understand !!
there are just and only two (2) fields (forces) we can manipulate... and the thing is, we can't change one without changing the other.. this is the electric and the magnetic field
gravity... is just a concept
there is no such thing as gluons, higs or dark matter...
those are just theoretical THINGS to get it right in the theory !!
and let me repeat... LHC is not an scientific tool...
to be one you need to be able to repeat the experiments.
LHC experiments can't even count the number of protons they let fly around, it is every time different and it just substantiate what I'm telling you!
LHC is a joke
and so is any BS coming out of it, like particle zoo !!
the theory holds, sure... but it is bound to loss of reality
originally posted by: KrzYma
I asked you for the details, not what "they say is true"
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originally posted by: KrzYma
KrzYma theory...
infinity is double-ended and reversible principle
it is infinitely small and infinitely big without distinction between
some point is everywhere
first dimension
infinite points number
two points create distance
this distance is still infinite in this dimension
to describe distance one need comparison
3 points (...)
charge is motion ("rotation") compared to the other points
"clockwise" and "anticlockwise"
this is not a rotation, it's more like "tendency" to be one or the other
this "spin" "creates" next dimension
the true distance
...how often I have to "turn" to get there
"time" to "get there"
why they spin ?
infinite possibilities in double-ended and reversible universe
why two points attract each other?
they don't in this first dimension !
the next dimension makes them.
"clockwise" or "anticlockwise"
double-ended and reversible infinity emergence
first dimension is "all", "everything"
second, is the differential of it
I know it is hard to imagine dimensions for people who are used to point, line, cube representations of that, but this is again a wrong concept, told us to believe to be true
in simple words, like charges repeal because they are the same, unlike charges attract because they are the opposite
originally posted by: KrzYma
a reply to: joelr
start with this ?
originally posted by: KrzYma
and let me repeat... LHC is not an scientific tool...
to be one you need to be able to repeat the experiments.
LHC experiments can't even count the number of protons they let fly around, it is every time different and it just substantiate what I'm telling you!
LHC is a joke
and so is any BS coming out of it, like particle zoo !!
the theory holds, sure... but it is bound to loss of reality
I agree, but I had no idea they cited one of my ATS threads in the "critics" section until I just checked that link!
originally posted by: joelr
The EU thing is a crank theory: rationalwiki.org...
No argument with that.
originally posted by: greenreflections
Photon is energy and gluon is energy.
This is what seems to be your flawed logic:
Gluon is special state of energy. They are made of photons (see definition of photon).
That seems to make it worse. How do you get 8 different types of gluons if they are "made of photons" and "of only one type". That seems like even worse logic.
originally posted by: greenreflections
It is not the type of energy, it is the state of energy (same energy and of only one type, if that helps).
Saying "gluons are made of photons" doesn't seem like a language barrier issue, the statement should be either supportable or not. So if it's supportable then post your evidence to support the claim. If it's not supportable, then allow me to remind you of the expectation for this science forum, that science claims should be supportable.
but again, most of my posts are linguistically crippled so I dont blame you).
originally posted by: Arbitrageur
How do you know this?
originally posted by: greenreflections
it takes photons to make gluon.
originally posted by: greenreflections
a reply to: Arbitrageur
alright. gluons are not made of photons but they both made of energy. Photon is an unbound state of energy and is the smallest energy unit (quanta) that exists.
I didn't mean gluons are photons directly but it takes photons to make gluon.
originally posted by: KrzYma
KrzYma theory...
infinity is double-ended and reversible principle
it is infinitely small and infinitely big without distinction between
some point is everywhere
first dimension
infinite points number
two points create distance
this distance is still infinite in this dimension
to describe distance one need comparison
3 points (...)
charge is motion ("rotation") compared to the other points
"clockwise" and "anticlockwise"
this is not a rotation, it's more like "tendency" to be one or the other
this "spin" "creates" next dimension
the true distance
...how often I have to "turn" to get there
"time" to "get there"
why they spin ?
infinite possibilities in double-ended and reversible universe
why two points attract each other?
they don't in this first dimension !
the next dimension makes them.
"clockwise" or "anticlockwise"
double-ended and reversible infinity emergence
first dimension is "all", "everything"
second, is the differential of it
I know it is hard to imagine dimensions for people who are used to point, line, cube representations of that, but this is again a wrong concept, told us to believe to be true
in simple words, like charges repeal because they are the same, unlike charges attract because they are the opposite