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Topic started on 2-12-2004 @ 02:15 PM by Seekerof
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I happened to run across this article mentioning:
Nearly half of Britons in a poll said they had never heard of Auschwitz, the Nazi death camp in southern Poland that became a symbol of the Holocaust
and the attempted genocide of the Jews.

The poll was done by the BBC.
The BBC said the research was based on a nationally representative postal survey of 4,000 adults 16 and older.

Findings indicacted that:
The survey found that 45 percent of those surveyed had not heard of Auschwitz. Historians estimate that anywhere from one million to three million
people, about 90 percent of them Jews, were killed there.
Among women and people younger than 35, 60 percent had never heard of Auschwitz, despite the recent popularity of films such as "Schindler's List,"
"Life is Beautiful" and "The Pianist," which depict the atrocities of the Holocaust.

Nearly Half of Britons Unaware of Auschwitz -Poll
I found this to be interesting and quite astounding.
Any comments or thoughts on this would be welcome.
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reply posted on 2-12-2004 @ 02:57 PM by HowardRoark
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Yeah, but I bet that they all have heard of Dunkirk.
How many Americans have?
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reply posted on 2-12-2004 @ 03:16 PM by Janus
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Wow, i find that pretty disturbing. How are we to prevent genocide when so many people are un aware of it? Is it no longer taught in schools? if not
then it should be. Didn't someone once say that if we ignore the lessons of history we are doomed to repeat it?
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reply posted on 2-12-2004 @ 03:31 PM by American Mad Man
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While I'd love to say otherwise, I suspect that this is so in most countries.
The thing is, I don't know how important it is that people know the names of every deathcamp, so long as they know what happened, and realise it's
wrong.
Still though, I thought Americans were the only uneducated ones
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reply posted on 2-12-2004 @ 03:37 PM by Kriz_4
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Is that title justified really? I am not sure that 4000 people can possibly represent the whole of Britain. We have a population of 60,000,000. I
do not consider that an extensive survey in all honesty.
However, not knowing the names of places where atrocities took place really isn't that big a deal. Knowing that they did take place, who commited
them in general and what the motives were is important and is also common knowledge.
If the question was: What were the Nazi's goals and what did they want to achieve?
I think you would see very informed answers from alot of people that would not like to see a repeat performance from any country's political party.
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reply posted on 2-12-2004 @ 03:37 PM by Hannah
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that's indeed strange. thaught they had a better knowledge of what was going on in these dark times, i mean as you already said, auschwitz is like a
symbol of the human tragedy and should be well known. in germany you have WW2 almost every schoolyear in history lessons (at least in my school)..over
and over, and of course its right, we have to prevent that something like this happens again.
in the 10th class, on our visit to england, we were friendly greeted with a "heil hitler" as soon as the younger ones figured out we were germans,
really a sad experience because we were all between 16-18 years old and had obviosly not much to do with WW2...but that's life if your born in
germany, you always carry this with you.
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reply posted on 2-12-2004 @ 03:39 PM by Kriz_4
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Originally posted by American Mad Man
While I'd love to say otherwise, I suspect that this is so in most countries.
The thing is, I don't know how important it is that people know the names of every deathcamp, so long as they know what happened, and realise it's
wrong. 
Exactley what I was trying to say
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reply posted on 2-12-2004 @ 03:42 PM by Janus
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Originally posted by Hannah
that's indeed strange. thaught they had a better knowledge of what was going on in these dark times, i mean as you already said, auschwitz is like a
symbol of the human tragedy and should be well known. in germany you have WW2 almost every schoolyear in history lessons (at least in my school)..over
and over, and of course its right, we have to prevent that something like this happens again.
in the 10th class, on our visit to england, we were friendly greeted with a "heil hitler" as soon as the younger ones figured out we were germans,
really a sad experience because we were all between 16-18 years old and had obviosly not much to do with WW2...but that's life if your born in
germany, you always carry this with you. 
I'm sorry you were treated like that Hannah, there is no excuse for that kind of ignorance. I spent some happy times in Germany when i was in the
Army and the people are some of the kindest Ive met.
You make good beer too
Edit:Spell check.
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reply posted on 2-12-2004 @ 03:59 PM by Hannah
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Originally posted by Janus
I'm sorry you were treated like that Hannah, there is no excuse for that kind of ignorance. I spent some happy times in Germany when i was in the
Army and the people are some of the kindest Ive met.
You make good beer too
[edit on 2-12-2004 by Janus] 
we spend some good days in england too, this was just the first experience as we left the bus and were looking for our hotel, not representative for
all britains of course, ignorance is everywhere
and yes, i like german beer too
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reply posted on 2-12-2004 @ 04:33 PM by masterp
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Oh man! there are people that don't know where their country is on the map! or who their president is! knowing about Auschwitz is a luxury!
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reply posted on 2-12-2004 @ 04:37 PM by jazzgul
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info:
Auschwitz:
for those who want to know more...
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reply posted on 2-12-2004 @ 04:39 PM by infinite
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The BBC said the research was based on a nationally representative postal survey of 4,000 adults 16 and older.

Hmmm....4,000?? not alot if you think about it.
Auschwitz and the holocaust is a major part of History in the UK edcuation and everyone has to study it. To be honest, i dont know who they were
asking...it was probably the people who never went to school
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reply posted on 2-12-2004 @ 06:32 PM by Amethyst
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I've heard it takes two generations to make something forgotten, and I believe it's been two generations since WWII.
That's pretty sad. Just cover it up, don't mention it, so future generations won't know...and you can do it all over again. They say hindsight is
20/20 and people are just blind to that.
I hadn't heard of the Holocaust myself until 8th grade, and I wound up taking a Holocaust Literature class in high school. Then again, I grew up in
the Detroit area, which has a considerable Jewish population, and two good friends of mine were Jewish.
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reply posted on 3-12-2004 @ 06:26 AM by Clandestine
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Selected highlights from the link below:
“About 11% of young Americans couldn’t even locate the US on a world map..”
“….Despite the threat of war in Iraq and the daily reports of suicide bombers in Israel, less than 15 percent of the young U.S. citizens could locate
either country.”
I’ll leave it up to you to decide how valuable these polls are.
news.nationalgeographic.com...
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reply posted on 3-12-2004 @ 06:34 AM by Corinthas
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That is shocking to say the least... how are we going to stop this with America completely ignoring international law again, and again.. and peoples
memory being out performed by a goldfish with amnesia?
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reply posted on 3-12-2004 @ 06:36 AM by Leveller
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Not knowing about Auschwitz and not knowing about the Holocaust are two entirely separate things. Many people would not have heard of Buchenwald or
Dachau either.
I'm suprised at the ignorance displayed of geography but I doubt very much that the average Briton is unaware that millions of Jews were exterminated
in concentration camps during WW2.
The Holocaust still features heavily in British media and education, and you would have to be deaf and blind to be ignorant of past history.
And let's not forget, Schindler's List was released here too.
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reply posted on 15-1-2005 @ 10:14 AM by Hellmutt
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Originally posted by Clandestine
Despite the threat of war in Iraq and the daily reports of suicide bombers in Israel, less than 15 percent of the young U.S. citizens could locate
either country 
I suspected it was bad, but not that bad...
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reply posted on 15-1-2005 @ 06:13 PM by Kakugo
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I'd like to know how many people heard about the Armenian genocide, the occupation of Tibet, the sistematic slaughter of the Indio tribes in Brazil,
the Stalinian "purges" in the 30s (often addressed toward Jewish communities) or the ruthless persecution of Christians in Indonesia. The Jewish
Holocaust was a disgusting atrocity, something that words alone cannot describe. But it seems to me that it is sometimes presented as an A-grade
slaughter, while all the other genocides are B-grade slaughters. Perhaps the blood of a Jewish child is worth more than the blood of an Indio mother?
Perhaps Auschwitz is more terrible than the Armenian "march of death" across Anatolia? No, they are all the same, they are all genocides. But
sometimes it seems a different story...
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reply posted on 15-1-2005 @ 06:30 PM by ShadowXIX
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Originally posted by Kakugo
I'd like to know how many people heard about the Armenian genocide, the occupation of Tibet, the sistematic slaughter of the Indio tribes in Brazil,
the Stalinian "purges" in the 30s (often addressed toward Jewish communities) 
Very true Stalin killed many more people then the "Holocaust" and yet the holocaust gets all the press not many people know the extent of the people
that suffered under Stalin.
Less than 6 million Jews died in Holocaust. Stalin killed 20 million plus of his own people.
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reply posted on 15-1-2005 @ 06:39 PM by surfup
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Originally posted by Kakugo
Perhaps Auschwitz is more terrible than the Armenian "march of death" across Anatolia? No, they are all the same, they are all genocides. But
sometimes it seems a different story... 
Winners write the history of the world and the average person thinks that is the truth and simply turns a blind eye toward everything else. I guess
the winners of the world war 2 wanted to turn Hitler into a monster so that the war that killed too many people would be justified and they would be
regarded as the saviors of the people, while in reality there weren't.
This happens everywhere, a sad fact of history.
Surf
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