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Topic started on 2-12-2004 @ 12:28 PM by jupiter869
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Jerusalem is important to three major religions: Jewish, Muslim, and Christian.
I know that for the Jews, Jerusalem is the site of the Wailing Wall, which was part of the Temple of Soloman where the Ten Commandments were kept
until they were taken away for safe keeping to Africa. (But that’s a different story.)
I know that the angel Gabriel brought Mohammad to the Temple of Soloman then Mount of Olives before taking him to see Jesus Christ who told Mohammad
that He was going to make Mohammad his “mouthpiece” and speak through him conveying the text of the Koran.
But why is Jerusalem so important to Christians? Was it because it was Jesus’ stomping grounds? Or because Gogatha is there? Or is it just
"Bibleland" with some religously important attractions but no one single very important site in particular?
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reply posted on 2-12-2004 @ 12:52 PM by saint4God
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Originally posted by jupiter869
But why is Jerusalem so important to Christians? 
I don't know. Why?
I guess it's not important to all Christians.
Originally posted by jupiter869
Was it because it was Jesus’ stomping grounds? Or because Gogatha is there? 
Jesus went lots of places in Israel but don't know of much of a point visiting since he said "My kingdom is not of this earth."
Originally posted by jupiter869
Or is it just "Bibleland" with some religously important attractions but no one single very important site in particular? 
Kind of like Memphis. My grandmother was a big Elvis fan!
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reply posted on 2-12-2004 @ 12:56 PM by Nygdan
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Originally posted by jupiter869
I know that the angel Gabriel brought Mohammad to the Temple of Soloman then Mount of Olives before taking him to see Jesus Christ who told Mohammad
that He was going to make Mohammad his “mouthpiece” and speak through him conveying the text of the Koran. 
Fullstop.
Mohammed ascended into heaven at the Temple of the Golden Dome, which is why jerusalem is important to muslims. He received his visions and prophecy
in arabia and never claimed to have met jesus as god
 But why is Jerusalem so important to Christians? 
Jesus is supposed to have been crucified there, and also since christianity directly buds off judaism, its was important to the early church and
whatnot.
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reply posted on 2-12-2004 @ 01:07 PM by bootlug
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Mohammed ascended into heaven at the Temple of the Golden Dome, which is why jerusalem is important to muslims. He received his visions and prophecy
in arabia and never claimed to have met jesus as god

Just as a further clarification, it is the Dome on the Rock (the dome is silver, not "golden") which is located exactly where the poster said: at
the Mount of Olives, which for Christians is also known as Gethsemane. Further, Mohammad did receive his orative communication through Christ as
"His mouthpiece" which is of course the content of the Koran.
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reply posted on 2-12-2004 @ 01:08 PM by marg6043
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The reason for what I know is historical, all three religions, we have a very good conoseour of historical facts about religion but he has not been in
ATS lately his name is Amadeus.
If he happends to be around and see this thread he probably will give you a better answer to your question.
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reply posted on 2-12-2004 @ 01:12 PM by Nygdan
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Originally posted by bootlug
Further, Mohammad did receive his orative communication through Christ as "His mouthpiece" which is of course the content of the Koran.

Really? I don't understand. Muslims generally feel that christ was a prophet who was not actually crucified, not that he was god. I don't
understand, do you have a verse or somethign I can look at?
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reply posted on 2-12-2004 @ 01:19 PM by DrHoracid
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The "Mount of Olives" is where Christ will return to end the complete destruction of Man by man. It is sacred because it is THE most "Holy" land,
place, on the planet. It is also where the Third temple will be built as soon as the true "abomination" (the dome thing) is destroyed. Under that
"dome" is where Abraham almost sacrificed Issac. Muslim claims are basically a complete "LIE". The dome was built many, many, many years after
Mohamed crawled this earth.
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reply posted on 2-12-2004 @ 01:34 PM by dragn
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Originally posted by DrHoracid
The "Mount of Olives" is where Christ will return to end the complete destruction of Man by man. It is sacred because it is THE most "Holy" land,
place, on the planet. It is also where the Third temple will be built as soon as the true "abomination" (the dome thing) is destroyed. Under that
"dome" is where Abraham almost sacrificed Issac. Muslim claims are basically a complete "LIE". The dome was built many, many, many years after
Mohamed crawled this earth. 
C'mon Doc, you're going to have to produce some kind of proof for this. I've never found anywhere in the bible that has any sort of reference as to
exactly where Abraham was. Nor have I ever read anywhere in Revalations about exaclty where christ is to return. Whatcha got? Sources?
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reply posted on 2-12-2004 @ 01:41 PM by DrHoracid
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Zec 14:4 On that day his feet shall stand on the Mount of Olives which lies before Jerusalem on the east; and the Mount of Olives shall be split in
two from east to west by a very wide valley; so that one half of the Mount shall withdraw northward, and the other half southward.
Link about Abraham
www.rc.net...
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reply posted on 2-12-2004 @ 01:49 PM by dragn
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Zec 14:4 On that day his feet shall stand on the Mount of Olives which lies before Jerusalem on the east; and the Mount of Olives shall be split in
two from east to west by a very wide valley; so that one half of the Mount shall withdraw northward, and the other half southward.
Link about Abraham
www.rc.net...

I stand corrected. Didn't think about the prophecies of Zechariah. Not sure exactly why, since this is one of the most talked about books in the
bible.
Still not sure about how "Mori'ah, and offer him there as a burnt offering upon one of the mountains of which I shall tell you" turned into the Mt
of Olives, but neither can I dispute it
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reply posted on 2-12-2004 @ 01:53 PM by DrHoracid
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I must agree I find it "interesting" if true. Been researching this for some time now. The data is based on "stories" passed down in the area.
But there is some archeological data, will try to find and pass along.
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reply posted on 2-12-2004 @ 05:45 PM by Slicky1313
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because God said in the bible he would return to Jeruselem, and give em the land back
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reply posted on 2-12-2004 @ 05:50 PM by I See You
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So much hatred and death for Jeruselem. Who would want it?
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reply posted on 2-12-2004 @ 10:31 PM by Nygdan
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Originally posted by DrHoracid
The "Mount of Olives" is where Christ will return to end the complete destruction of Man by man. It is sacred because it is THE most "Holy" land,
place, on the planet. 
Really? How is 'holyness' measured?
It is also where the Third temple will be built as soon as the true "abomination" (the dome thing) is destroyed. Under that "dome" is where
Abraham almost sacrificed Issac. 
Abraham decided to murder his son on a mountain top, not in jerusalem.
 Muslim claims are basically a complete "LIE". The dome was built many, many, many years after Mohamed crawled this earth. 
They claim different?
 Zec 14:4 
This isn';t about jesus, its about the jewish messiah no? And not his 'second comming' but his first no?
 It is built over the rock on the Temple Mount where it was believed that Abraham was prepared to sacrifice his son Isaac in obedience to the
command of the Lord (Gen. 22) 
Gen 22 does not say this. It says in teh relevant portion
 kjv
get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of 
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reply posted on 2-12-2004 @ 10:36 PM by jupiter869
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Well, the holiest of holy places on the planet earth is an opinion of one person. Other religions would naturally, of course, dispute that.
It's interesting to me how little Christians really know about their own religion.
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reply posted on 2-12-2004 @ 11:03 PM by Ryanp5555
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Originally posted by Nygdan
Originally posted by DrHoracid
The "Mount of Olives" is where Christ will return to end the complete destruction of Man by man. It is sacred because it is THE most "Holy" land,
place, on the planet. 
Really? How is 'holyness' measured?
It is also where the Third temple will be built as soon as the true "abomination" (the dome thing) is destroyed. Under that "dome" is where
Abraham almost sacrificed Issac. 
Abraham decided to murder his son on a mountain top, not in jerusalem.
 Muslim claims are basically a complete "LIE". The dome was built many, many, many years after Mohamed crawled this earth. 
They claim different?
 Zec 14:4 
This isn';t about jesus, its about the jewish messiah no? And not his 'second comming' but his first no?
 It is built over the rock on the Temple Mount where it was believed that Abraham was prepared to sacrifice his son Isaac in obedience to the
command of the Lord (Gen. 22) 
Gen 22 does not say this. It says in teh relevant portion
 kjv
get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of  
what amazes me is that you know this topic is specifically for christians beliefs yet you go and say Jesus wasn't the messiah. Talk about arrogance.
Why is it that everyone on this board feels that christianity needs to be bashed? It's annoying, so please stop. Now, if you read Revelation you will
see why it is so important to us Christians. Specifically the building of the Temple of Solomon. Other than that, we aren't going to fight for it as
our homeland. That is all i have to say.
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reply posted on 2-12-2004 @ 11:37 PM by jupiter869
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Now, if you read Revelation you will see why it is so important to us Christians. Specifically the building of the Temple of Solomon. Other than
that, we aren't going to fight for it as our homeland. That is all i have to say.

I guess this is really the crux of the question. Why is the Temple of Solomon so important to Christians? Is it that Christianity stemmed from
Judiasm?
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reply posted on 2-12-2004 @ 11:41 PM by Justanotherperson
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Jerusalem was and still is today the seat of government for the region. It is the crossroads out post where merchants would sell their wares. I don't
see any religious significance for the city.
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reply posted on 3-12-2004 @ 12:06 AM by GradyPhilpott
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Originally posted by jupiter869
It's interesting to me how little Christians really know about their own religion.

What are you basing this assertion on?
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reply posted on 3-12-2004 @ 07:34 AM by marg6043
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Originally posted by jupiter869
It's interesting to me how little Christians really know about their own religion.

Is not that christians don't really know about the religion, actually they know a lot about bible teachings because that were the christian religon
is based on the teachings of the bible and the time of Jesus that's why is called "christianity" the believe in the Christ.
I know a lot of christians that will tell you that they don't need any other history but the one in their bibles.
And Please this is not a bashing of christian people.
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