Enage the 'illusion'...

Let's pretend that there is no doubt, that there is a [New World Order] agenda in place. In as little words as possible (but feel free to preach, if you feel the need, i'll read):

1) describe the 'new world order' from your particular bent, ie pro/anti

2) if you are comfortable enough, describe how it affects/effects you and your life.

3) assume you had the unlimited [but not "God"-ly] power to change things for the better, where do you start?


For me:

1) the attempt to impose a totalitarian world government, fueled by a program of trauma based mind control.

2) When I was anti-nwo, I had no life. When I was pro-nwo, my life lacked meaning/value.

3) I would shake up the middle class, wherever on Earth they may be.

Evil Shepherds with a Higher Goal.
Enslaving Sheep to pursue a Higher Goal.
Self Education and Awareness is the Key.

1) To me the elite are the inheritors of the planet conquerors from babylon (took 9000 years, each time using the enslaved areas population as new enforcers/murderers/soldiers -> increasing the pace). In other words the unwise who gained knowledge from the wise who created knowledge. The system automatically exponentially increases the wealth of the super rich born while lowering the worth of that of all others. Their symbols, "civilization", the war chain, money, religions, their famous families are all easy to track back to that place and the planet chain reaction.

The picture pretty much hits the spot - divide what is normally one in the minds of people to get the one infinite together working mechanism of wisdom broken.
-efficiency towards the best possible goal -> good vs bad
-movement -> [light, magnetic fields, air, fluid, material])
-a thousand more things

I'd simply go back to where each place was before it was conquered, unconditionally loving each other, working 3 mins a day or let robots do the work.

2) Every step i do 24/7 is enforced. I am given very few choices between movements given to me and am not even allowed not to move. No rest, always bending my mind in all directions to satisfy the minimum requirements to be allowed to live. At least I jump stairs up and down - it might have a positive effect on people seeing it anyway.

3) If i had even more influence, I'd get us back together with the other life forms outside the planet, getting eternal life / helping the other outside and inside life forms to keep everything stable for perfection

originally posted by: November5

1) describe the 'new world order' from your particular bent, ie pro/anti

New system elder beliefs remapped for current populations

originally posted by: November5
2) if you are comfortable enough, describe how it affects/effects you and your life.

Behaviors observed and demonstrated that cull populations which then trigger political responses if not military which are paid by taxes generated by those affected. Which in turn cause changes to land mass regions responding. Which then changes planetary dynamics in relation to social pyramid schemes.

originally posted by: November5

3) assume you had the unlimited [but not "God"-ly] power to change things for the better, where do you start?

N/A

originally posted by: demus

Self Education and Awareness is the Key.

I would definitely have to stand behind that observation.

originally posted by: oneoneone

2) Every step i do 24/7 is enforced. I am given very few choices between movements given to me and am not even allowed not to move. No rest, always bending my mind in all directions to satisfy the minimum requirements to be allowed to live.

I can appreciate that awareness. "The problem is choice", right?


a reply to: Ophiuchus 13

New system elder beliefs remapped for current populations, by that you mean, the old world order, is the new world order?

originally posted by: November5
I can appreciate that awareness. "The problem is choice", right?

Choices given are always relative, no matter what life form you are at a specific position / in a connected system divided from the outside mechanism. No matter what kind of life form you are, you will always perceive your limit border, however less.

Being given choices is a kind of manipulation it seems. From being given infinite choices to being given A) B) C). Being merely restricted by the choice givers and being relatively compared to another alternative they could enforce you with.
However, since this kind of manipulation seems so obvious it might, depending on the specific case, be used for another influence.

a reply to: November5

As it has always been for the same who sit ABOVE the pyramid structures STILL do outside of most inhabitants observable range. And they influence the new societal pyramid tops interest and behaviors... Who influence bottom societal pyramid inhabitants.

Its not like they live in human flesh time so time even though nonexistent they have over humans as their eternal souls sleep...

originally posted by: Ophiuchus 13
a reply to: November5

As it has always been for the same who sit ABOVE the pyramid structures STILL do outside of most inhabitants observable range. And they influence the new societal pyramid tops interest and behaviors...

Its not like they live in human flesh time so time even though nonexistent they have over humans as their eternal souls sleep...

The place where the whole thing started got a "religion" where the writers with different perspectives were convinced to either have lived together with aliens or to be aliens themselves. And their goal was exactly what happened.

a reply to: oneoneone

The pass of information from those above the social pyramid EA*RTH schemes may get misconstrued accidently or purposely when it reaches the pyramid tops of EA*RTH. This offsets the possible good intentions from above as top social pyramid ones below basically do what they want with the inhabitants below them. Causing fails.

a reply to: Ophiuchus 13

Indeed, I thought about it myself to infiltrate and improve such schemes, as I got knowledge about the human mind. And we should infiltrate the enforcers (police, military, special agencies) as well to take attempts to ignore harmful enforcing laws rather than running from them. However, the lower shards of Freemasons for example got filtering systems which keep me out for many reasons.
They do donate, open organizations with good intentions and intend to be brotherly, however inject fear to their brothers by rules and limit them to the awareness within their group, cutting them off from the outside. Donations are also less efficient than not taking the money away at all.

The most efficient system from within my wisdom and data however is not a pyramid. just a network where each one is aware of a lot of systems around themselves. When I watch the beings inside my veins I see beings aware of my whole body.

In nature only those survive which care for and stabilize the larger system and their equals, as it will otherwise either break down or annihilate the life form like a virus.
A big problem is our finite life time creating a loop of non wisdom passing on abusable knowledge.

originally posted by: oneoneone
Choices given are always relative, no matter what life form you are at a specific position / in a connected system divided from the outside mechanism. No matter what kind of life form you are, you will always perceive your limit border, however less.

That 'relative' you speak of, I refer to as 'situational awareness', which is determined by severities, or *degrees. What do you mean by 'limit border'?

originally posted by: oneoneone
Being given choices is a kind of manipulation it seems. From being given infinite choices to being given A) B) C). Being merely restricted by the choice givers and being relatively compared to another alternative they could enforce you with.
However, since this kind of manipulation seems so obvious it might, depending on the specific case, be used for another influence.

Can you give me an example of 'another influence', and by whom it might be wielded by, if you don't mean the 'choice-givers'.

originally posted by: oneoneone
When I watch the beings inside my veins I see beings aware of my whole body.

Are you being 'poetic' here, or what do you mean by that?

originally posted by: Ophiuchus 13
Its not like they live in human flesh time so time even though nonexistent they have over humans as their eternal souls sleep...

Could you elaborate on this thought~form?

a reply to: November5

"That 'relative' you speak of, I refer to as 'situational awareness', which is determined by severities, or *degrees. What do you mean by 'limit border'?"

Yes, you can call it that. By limit border I meant that there is always a limit to what you can currently do with your body in your situation.

"Can you give me an example of 'another influence', and by whom it might be wielded by, if you don't mean the 'choice-givers'."

Perhaps distraction, hopelessness or, as it is often done, a chain of brain triggers to program the mind. Activate 2 areas in a mind divided by words at a time and you connect them. The first case is rather done by direct persons, like politicians, the second in movies and series - planned scenes and setups. I'm not sure how the investor chain managed to put mind programming symbols in at least about 95% of the main stream movies and games I know.
I noticed that when companies become successful they later start to integrate the symbols.

"Are you being 'poetic' here, or what do you mean by that?"

Everything is connected. It's all cause and effect. There is a reason for everything that slightly influenced a part of your body. And everything out there influences it, indirectly through chains. You can feel, hear or see anything already, but forgot it in this location (your brain), because you thought it's just a distortion. The more you become aware of things behind chain reactions, the more you can rebuild to convert what is behind it. The same goes for the sight you already have. What you at least probably notice is a movement influenced by something in its way, different speeds of the movement are differently influences, so that some beings for example seem to use or block certain speeds = colors.
There is a topic about seeing blood cells or different floating things within or outside of your eye in the paranormal forum.
Though, look carefully and you see the air flowing, looking like something between water and fire.
Also, Lights are, just as school claims, just a little of what there really is.

You are aware of the part of your mind where your currently active words are in - if you consider other beings not part of you, the brain parts aren't either. See how we are one.

Good night for today < 3

1/ The NWO is an idea, a dream, vision, goal, direction, tomorrow. There have been many people and many groups promoting their ideas and parts to the puzzle of just how does this world work together.

War and conflict has been going on for thousands of years. Are we really just a bunch of wild animals that will keep this conflict enraging for thousands more. Or is humanity, civilization and our growing connected world to find better ways to resolve our conflicts.

2/ A big part of ATS that keeps me engaged is that it is about ideas, this is what leads the world. As our leaders have bad ideas, bad results occur. In learning and discussion about all the complex things going on, ideas are constantly shared and refined. Being a part of the good ideas in some way that helps get things back on track is one thing I hope for.

3/ Find better ways to build and share the ideas that do shape the world.

a reply to: kwakakev

In my opinion, war is just as much a part of civilization as pb&j. It appears to me to be a mechanism that serves to control, distract, and limit the population.

I don't believe humankind is war-like. This idea is founded in the saturation of war-related information and propaganda in the public consciousness. They won't let us get our minds off war, which is what's required to make room for thoughts about peace.

It's time to ignore war!

a reply to: oneoneone

I also share this awareness that everything is connected, and that everything happens for a reason. I often rely on the subtle indications given to me by my environment and my body, and do everything I can when it comes to the decision making process, with varying *levels of success.

I think that these things are probably better discussed in another topic anyways, we're getting away from the OP. But definitely some food for thought, thank you for sharing that.

a reply to: November5

It's time to ignore war!

Try to, know what pain is like and just knowing just how much is out their hurts in some way. Have tried to understand it and getting more familiar with it. Being able to learn and talk about the global situation in a public global environment has been good.

In 'the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy' the babble fish (a language translator) is the blame for most wars, some dumb misunderstanding. If we can get away from our fear and understand things better hopefully we will not make the same dumb mistakes.

I agree. That's definitely something I need to do more. Interaction with other minds.

Either way (fear/courage) you look at it, however it unfolds, at the very least, it will be entertaining.

One Government with leaders agreeing on principal laws, freedoms, goals and ideals.
Sustaining itself on bigger projects that help the global society rather than wars.
Protecting itself against terror groups.

a reply to: November5

Western backed expansionist military Industrial imperialism, arm bending elites, and elbow grabbing gun carrying law enforcement agents. Sociopathic Puppeteering CEOs doing business as a means to increase personal wealth at the expense of all others. As Noam Chomsky described it "a principle of modern state capitalism (the NWO) is that costs & risks are socialised to the greatest extent possible while profit is privatised."

Personally continues to affect you whether you notice it or not as the planets resources and lands are increasingly polluted destroyed, privatised, commdified and then rented back to us after having been raped of all their value... Companies continue to seek new and innovative ways to reach the much hyped about and saught after status of being a brand with "mass market appeal", and will go out of their way to acheive this, spending millions on marketing annually meaning we are subjected to psychological manipulation on a continual basis from the moment we leave the womb...
After many decades the western elites are so powerful they control the education and governments to such an extent that the idea of democracy is a total illusion and we have no idea who really runs the world at this point. And we have really lost the plot of what's going on, hence we come to find news on a conspiracy website with much speculation around the validity of " facts" were scholars without a cause.....

What can we do about it? Realise we are in a golden age of global connectivity and it might not be here for very long, so connect as much and as truthfully with ourselves and others as possible, and most of all keep asking as many questions of of our so called problems as we can until the heavens open and solutions rain down upon us.

Inform ourselves in for the world. Look at facts you wouldn't think were useful, ask questions when you don't think you need the answers to. Keep written notes, not just computer files... Always work tirelessly for liberation, and never doubt your convictions.

1) describe the 'new world order' from your particular bent, ie pro/anti
Pro: The ability to be a space fairing race, The ability to actually live in a society once again where saying hi to strangers is not met by hostile attitudes or even a threat.
The system would be able to allocate funds a lot more efficiently and even prevent poverty

Cons: Completely controlled, brush your teeth, no doing harm to your body. Everything is watched.
I believe this could work against us from the people who have accumulated more wealth then the middle and lower classes. That is not fair what so ever.
Not able to do anything with out surveillance.


2) if you are comfortable enough, describe how it affects/effects you and your life.
I drink, I like to go out and waste money sometimes not in the right way. I mean lets be honest we all should save more and spend less. I am but I not if someone is above the next person. We are all Human on this planet regardless of race, age, even disabilities

3) assume you had the unlimited [but not "God"-ly] power to change things for the better, where do you start?
Start from the bottom of course. The lower class has made this world the most amazing place, We all owe it to the people who were first in debt. The people who came here were hated and persecuted beyond belief. Not just Blacks, Asians, Native Americans, White, Hispanic(sorry if I forgot to name any others) We all have made a contribution to this world in a very strong way. We owe it to the people who are going through the worse to fix that first. Third world up to our section 8's. Next school is the next in line. Focus on each child personally. Imagine that your love for space driving you to be an astronaut by the age of 25 because your system supports you like an extra parent. I can go on in this section.....
Next is healthcare we need to take care of our health to get the most out of our mechs. Why not?
Next is the actual system. Regulated on every level big and small. A transparent government where we all are one.

well that sounds like im an NWO pusher now gdi...

I cant believe this