Is the Fed going to attempt a controlled collapse?

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posted on Jul, 9 2014 @ 11:47 PM
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We all know the Federal Reserve is not a true "government agency".

We know that the 12 Federal Reserve regional District Banks issue private stock to all local banks that are "members".

It could be assumed that private and public stock in all the "member" banks are the true "owners" of the Federal Reserve.

An article is pointing out a statement issued recently by the Bank for International Settlements (in Switzerland) that may be suggesting a "PoP" to the bubble is necessary, which creates a question; "what bubble" ?

Credit crisis? - Debt crisis?

The B.I.S. is the "Central Bank" of all Central Banks according to them.

The B.I.S. has a committee called the Basel Committee that actually makes directives to "member" central banks worldwide.

Note also that many "non member" nations are the same nations that are currently in "Turmoil" and are under military attack, economic sanction, smear campaigns etc. etc.

Note too that some of the "Arab Spring" countries that were non-members are now members, but most are not and still under some form of "attack".

Another note is that I speculate that most if not all "Members" are in deep national debt.

The article can explain.




As most Fed watchers know, last week was interesting because Janet Yellen, speaking at IMF came out and said something quite surprising. In a nutshell, she said “It’s not the Fed’s job to pop bubbles”. While many market participants immediately took this to mean, “To the moon, Alice!” and started buying equities hand over fist, there’s another possible explanation for Mrs. Yellen’s proclamation of unwillingness: The Fed could be preparing to do exactly what it said it wouldn’t.

Here’s a quick re-cap of events: In the recently released Annual Report of the BIS: Bank for International Settlements (commonly thought of as the “central bank’s central bank”) the BIS made a rather ominous recommendation to it’s member banks: Pop this bubble now. Their specific language wasn’t quite so direct, but the message was just as clear.



Is the Fed going to attempt a controlled collapse?




posted on Jul, 9 2014 @ 11:51 PM
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Who ever installed Obama did not spend the last 75+ years to bring this country into the folds of socialism/communism and quit now.

It will either be something like this or an event to create marshal law and make Obama king. IMO



posted on Jul, 10 2014 @ 12:10 AM
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a reply to: Battleline

I agree with you. Save perhaps the King Obama part.



But yea - this has been a long time coming, carefully orchestrated, and it will not fail now. The pieces are almost in place globally and certainly across America.

At this point I think those "not in the know" but still affiliated with TBTB; are simply waiting for the 'Go' order.



posted on Jul, 10 2014 @ 12:17 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Good thread X. F&S----
I believe the cost of doing business is going to be the
BIS' top job as it always was.

We're (US) well past having lived our productive life
cycle as a blood host. Therefore as a cost-savings
move I expect the dental floss will be tied around
the rotten molar of our economy and the door slammed.

If what you believe is more like the balloon of over -
inflated stocks, etc hot air and camel urine vapors..
I also Imagine somebody is standing close by with a
hatpin and yellow toned foul weather gear.

It's now about a quarter past midnight in the state that
incubated our incucumber in cheap, and his ideology:
and I bid to all a painless sleep without dreams like we
know in our days.
"And if I die before I wake, I wouldn't be a bit surprised."
Erika, when she was 8.
edit on 10-7-2014 by derfreebie because: Yes indeed , tired around the door.



posted on Jul, 10 2014 @ 12:30 AM
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a reply to: derfreebie

quite the imagination you have..

meanwhile in reality rich people have fun globe trotting and just plain ole boogying down anywhere they want. why again do they want to destroy the world economy?

control always comes up, but thats silly. ask any prison warden if he would want to run a prison with all or most of america in it... he would laugh... just keep the system as it as and people gotta bust there hump just to get by. in reality the prisoner/slaves are willing participants by doing illegal/stupid things.


i honestly wonder if some of you actually want this weird evil future to happen. it would absolve everyone of responsibility and i think some people actually want that. put mr evil in charge to tell me what to do!

why would they take the country over? too what end? enslave america to go to work in factories? who's going to buy the goods if america doesn't?

what happens when china goes on the war path because there population revolts cause theres no more importing of chinese goods? we keep that country alive.

what happens when Europe panics? russia locks its borders? russia expands its borders?

well at that point no one is having fun. not even the rich people that run stuff. why would they poop and pee all over there own playground when they can just keep doing it in little back water sandboxes???

this "big event" that everyone sits around hoping/waiting for will never happen. why do they need More control?

they already have cameras EVERYWHERE

they can listen to anything with a mic.

the ruling class rules with impunity... i see no reasons why they need to try and increase this rule to a tyrannical state



posted on Jul, 10 2014 @ 01:03 AM
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a reply to: mindseye1609

Nothing wrong with speculating but at the same time, what goes up must come down at some stage and I think America is on it's way down. Let's hope not but things are not looking good.



posted on Jul, 10 2014 @ 02:16 AM
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Pride goeth before a fall...................Better duck!



posted on Jul, 10 2014 @ 02:50 AM
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I think the crash is inevitable weather its a controlled event or just due to greedy stupidity? I still am not 100% sure. I do think if it is all planned, then it will not be like something easily predicted, but more like a slow and tedious series of connected events. They seem to push just enough to get the reactions they want from the masses and have seemed to capitalized on the apathy extremely well.



posted on Jul, 10 2014 @ 06:16 AM
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A video of the public interview with Janet Yellen speaking at IMF can be found at www.imf.org...

Janet starts speaking at the 34 minute mark. The video goes for about 90 minutes.

As an overview, somethings have been fixed up with better liquidity and leverage exposure. The important parts of shadow banking is better supported, but still a little bit rogue. The short term money markets is where the greatest risk is and still needs better regulation.

Janet does say that the goals provided by congresses is what defines the main goals for the Fed. As for how the Fed get there is up to the Fed to decide. As for bubble pops, it is what markets do. It is up to the Fed, other central banks and the IMF to make sure there is enough resilience and stability in the monetary system to overcome market fluctuations. As for the Fed stopping the too big to fail from popping, it is a complex situation with many factors and every case is different. If the same was to happen today they might stop the pop again, but getting to a stage where critical financial infrastructure can absorb shocks and operate in a sustainable way is a goal. Getting there is not easy.

As for how the Fed feels about a decline in the US global reserve status, is sounds ready. With other nations moving towards using other currencies for their transactions the USD is not going to suddenly drop off a cliff. But the tide is turning and the demand for USD on a global stage is going to have some splash back issues. As for how government and corporate policy responds and works together will set the stage for how a lot of the transition progresses.

At the moment the main focus on of the fed is on inflation and unemployment. It is prepared to focus on other issues should the need arise.



posted on Jul, 10 2014 @ 08:54 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Considering they want to control everything else im sure they will try to control this and some will profit off it. The big dogs will drop their stock first and the world will be in too much chaos for anyone to go after them.



posted on Jul, 10 2014 @ 09:24 AM
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a reply to: Battleline

Socialism...communism? Where?

It would be quite nice to see a little socialism or communism tossed in our system to combat the fascist police-state we are actually living in.



posted on Jul, 10 2014 @ 09:48 AM
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the Fed. will be doing everything it can to protect the banking/finance/commodities/money exchange...(IOW the 1%'ers)

but the Collapse that surely will come will not be controlled or begun by the Fed.
it will be the world community that turns its collective back on the USD & Treasuries/Bonds

the combined BRICSS (which will soon include Saudi Arabia) will be on the forefront of toppling the present BIS, world bank, IMF, London-NY Fed. financial empire, with the USD being dropped as the Global Reserve Currency, and the Petro-Dollar becoming a relic of the gravely Fraudulent USA Treasury-Federal Reserve Central Banking System which controls the Worlds Financial Markets, for perhaps the rest of 2014 at the longest


the Fed. in 'controlling the collapse' will use every measure of deceit/pressure/manipulation to draw out the USD reset and soon-to-follow hyper-inflation... whenever Russia-China-Saudi Arabia-India decide that the western-worlds control over Gold/PMs and a fraudulent Derivative Pool of over 1+ Quadrillion$
needs to be unwound from the rest of the Righteous Economic Worlds Monetary System

We (the Fed/Treasury, NY-DC, London) are going down the tubes, the Fed might be able to slow down the crash a little, but it is not in an operation of degrading the USD in the least harmful way for the peasants...

we are only the passengers in a roller-coaster from here on out
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posted on Jul, 10 2014 @ 10:16 AM
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originally posted by: mindseye1609
a reply to: derfreebie
in reality the prisoner/slaves are willing participants by doing illegal/stupid things.


Yea, you know, cause the prisons being filling half or so with drug addicts... they are all just begging to be slammed in a cell... they just want it so badly... stupid them.

Lack of compassion, much?



posted on Jul, 10 2014 @ 10:17 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

What would be the point?



posted on Jul, 10 2014 @ 10:38 AM
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a reply to: pl3bscheese

who's choice was it to use illegal drugs? theres very few people now a days locked up on BS small possession charges too. mostly people profiting off it. the rest is probation but still you have to work a job then.

credit is another way the prisoners are willing. we just willingly incur massive debt which makes us INDENTURED SERVANTS aka SLAVES. more willing slaves so why tyrannically control people?

its not about lacking compassion its about being real. they have no reason to try to collapse the world economy for more control. they already have us waiting in line to be controlled.



posted on Jul, 10 2014 @ 10:49 AM
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a reply to: mindseye1609

You're completely ignorant if you think "very few" are locked up on possession. Addiction is hardcore, man. People might initially get probation, but they tend to screw it up when they're an addict. Then it's off to prison.

Fault? This is addiction, man. It's a tragedy, not fault.
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posted on Jul, 10 2014 @ 11:37 AM
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a reply to: St Udio



the Fed. will be doing everything it can to protect the banking/finance/commodities/money exchange...(IOW the 1%'ers)


Absolutely, not just the Fed but all the central banks and those in the system. How the economy works affects everyone on this planet in many ways.

As for how the crash goes, US foreign policy is going to be a big factor. If wars are going on then internationals support is more strained. Corporate policy is also important, is it regulated enough? Perhaps not, but in terms of systemic risks improvements have been made.

As the rest of the world turns away from US notes and bonds it does not have to be a sudden crash. Russia has been reducing is exposure the fastest more lately, Syria and Ukraine is not helping. China is moving it usual slowly, slowly but has been changing the trend for some time. The US and London do need to get their accounts in order.



posted on Jul, 10 2014 @ 01:13 PM
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originally posted by: PhoenixOD
a reply to: xuenchen

What would be the point?


Probably to lessen the impact of a debt collapse.

The worldwide economy is debt based.




posted on Jul, 10 2014 @ 01:20 PM
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originally posted by: sheepslayer247
a reply to: Battleline

Socialism...communism? Where?

It would be quite nice to see a little socialism or communism tossed in our system to combat the fascist police-state we are actually living in.



Unless of course "fascism, communism, socialism" etc. is all part of the same general agenda and they all are necessary for any one of them to exist.

The worldwide central bank system uses pieces from all the Left Wing systems.

The authoritarian systems are all Left Wing.

Anything close to "Right Wing" / true Conservative wouldn't have a worldwide banking system in the first place.




posted on Jul, 10 2014 @ 02:24 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

I disagree. Fascism has historically been anti-communist and ant-liberalism.

One of the major tenets of fascism is ultra-nationalism or ultra-patriotism that focuses on demonizing other races and nations....using war and an interventionist foreign policy as a way to assert their superiority.

If that doesn't sound like a war-hawk republican....I don't know what does.

That's not to say that the "Left" in America are not fascist..because they are as well. It's hard to find a true liberal or communist these days because the American political spectrum sits firmly right of center.





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