originally posted by: civpop
originally posted by: TheCounselor
a reply to: dreamingawake
Of course, my first thought was, "They thought of a way to purloin more expensive items."
My family regularly loses nice things each time a TSA paw gets near their stuff.
I have lost count of the number of items at airports I've been told are "forbidden" I've argued so much with them that you just end up giving in,
small (well under 100ml) perfume, lipstick, snow globe (which they sold me in the airport then because I had to go out and back through security they
took off me). Ridiculous.
yeah a lot of the rules are just arbitrary and have no real effect. some actual weapons are let in the cabin, while other non weapons are not. some
airports (countries?) have stricter (and weird) rules than others. and lets not forget about the idiocy of having to go through the SAME security
right after getting off an airplane
, before entering the general areas of the airport for a connecting flight. even the fact the
plastic "silverware" they give for economy class could be used as weapons more easily than some things you are not allowed to have. and at the same
time those in first class are obviously more trusted
as they get actual metal silverware even more useful as a weapon. or even the things you
have to do that make some sense, but because it only applies to some people yet not others renders it completely ineffective. and ANYTIME you ask
about any of the rules you get one answer it is rules from the US, we have no choice
even when it IS allowable in the US (lieing pricks)
i have seen bows and arrows more than once in the cabin as people are stowing their carry ons. i'm not joking. perfectly operational bows, and not
even "target" arrows, but hunting arrows. these are in the form of native
souvenirs people bring back home from many countries. yet they can
still be used to lethal effect by almost anyone who ever shoots a bow. yet nail clippers
and things like 1 inch knives are too dangerous
to let on? now that is kinda stupid.
then you have airports in Tokyo that have rules, too bad all signage is in Japanese script no one else can read and no other languages, so not even
sure it is just the airport and not in Japan proper and the staff could barely speak enough english to tell me "not allowed", and point to a sign in
kanji script with a picture of an obviously fake "throwing star lighter" (so how can i even be sure if the issue that the sign refers to is the
weapon or the lighter?) that apparently state nothing that even resembles a weapon
can be let in the airport. i bought an umbrella
in Japan of course), that had an obvious plastic "hilt" for a handle. they made me check it at a cost of $45 (more than i paid for it, and in US
funds), and of course needed a credit card, no cash or debit (luckily i was traveling with someone who had a credit card). just before i went through
security after getting off
my previous flight, which all by its self is interesting. i say that because the umbrella was placed "hilt first"
covered with a jacket (to protect the cheap chrome job) in my bag with only the obvious umbrella showing. and i was the last person off the airplane.
yet i had passed the security guy who was sitting down, we even gave each other smiles when passing. yet as i was about to put my bag on to be x rayed
he came charging up with a huge frown pointing to my umbrella and gesturing to remove it, (yeah some english would have been helpful at least a huge
chunk of people in the world at least have a basic understanding of it). now why the sudden change of demeanor? and just how did he know
it? personally i think a stewardess must have called since they would have been the only ones to see it that would have been somewhere behind me, and
no one was in sight other than airport workers. and yes they told me that "it is US FAA law they have to obey" at the check luggage counter (which
is a weird place for on, a luggage check in between getting off an airplane and security? WTF). yet at the US airports i went through had no problems
when i carried it in plain view, just comments like "where did you buy it", and "that is cool" from security, TSA and others. (yeah not all TSA
or on the same trip, i had bought a couple novelty, and cigarette case lighters for friends as souvenirs. oops can't be in checked baggage. the
airport here actually asks about that type of thing before check in, to save hassles. so i took them out which is when i ran into the second problem
are prohibited. yet they were pretty empty and wouldn't even light, NOT ALLOWED. then he checked another couple i had to be
sure they were not torch lighters
. now even though they had like 9 INCH flames, they were acceptable
, for me to have on the airplane.
(oh and no problem with that umbrella that was out in the open and seen). seriously a torch lighter
that wouldn't light is a danger
a regular lighter with a 9 inch flame is not? talk about arbitrary rules that make no sense. which one could i have used if i wanted to set the plane
on fire? not like you couldn't use any lighter for that if you wanted.
and then there is the whole shoe thing. everyone must remove their shoes to be x rayed (and they apparently found a folding knife recently, now why
would you do that when everybody knows they are particularly looking at shoes?), unless of course you are over or under certain ages. which of course
nullifies the usefulness since anyone with half a brain will conceal their stuff in a child's or old person's shoes.
in the case of electronics
. again anyone with a brain, would insure the device at least works for basic functions just in case
wanted to check it. not to mention most people would start with a real item
and modify it, it's a hell of a lot easier than trying to make
something from scratch and yet look real and work.
all this type of thing does is serve two purposes. to keep people panicked
about what could happen, and let the government do as they will to
. and to keep TSA agents and other agencies employed and powerful. lets face it, if someone wants to do something they WILL find a
way. and they do such a good job of protecting us people are able to climb into landing gear to fly. and they could be carrying ANYTHING since they
don't go through any checks. they could plant a bomb and leave. they could even carry guns and a cutting instrument and cut their way into the
aircraft, even sealing it up behind them on the ground, and arm other hijackers already on board. lets face it airport security is a joke in many