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The Hypocracy of the American Right - How Americans Are Brainwashed

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posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 08:12 AM
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a reply to: NoRulesAllowed

You bring up good points, but fail to bring up other ones. The very thought that Americans now would work these manufacturing jobs is laughable at best. A majority of American born citizens are outright lazy and self entitled. Manuel labor? Think again. It SICKENS me.

Is out sourcing morally right, of course not, but few of my countrymen would take those jobs anyway. They are "too good for those jobs".

This immigrants need easier access to citizenship. They are not afraid to work and aren't anywhere close to being as self entitled as the modern day American. We need a fresh batch of citizens in my opinion.




posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 09:08 AM
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That is so totally wrong...no, i have to just say that is stoooooooopid. I know of no one that is unemployed and will not take a manufacturing job. And these are KIDS being shipped in, not working age men and women. You must be too young to work, am i correct? Granted, todays high school grads have attitude and feel entitled. Going hungry from losing job after job (if they can find a job) usually cures most ills learned while in publicly paid confinement during their dumbing down process) usually helps cure most of these unproductive, learned traits. Construction jobs were good entry lvl type jobs where a kid could learn a trade and find mentoring on how the world and job mkt REALLY worked. But those jobs are set aside now for mexican workers.a reply to: solongandgoodnight



posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 09:20 AM
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originally posted by: NoRulesAllowed

Just down the road may be the headquarter of corporate X (such as HP, Any random "American" car manufacturer, whatever) where it's perfectly legal that their entire customer service department, manufacturing is outsourced to Pakistan or India. (Ever wondered why you are connected to India when you call HP tech support, for instance?)

NO ONE, absolutely NO ONE of the American people is holding signs in front of those companies and asking why it's legal that thousands of jobs are outsourced to 3rd world countries.

NO ONE is holding up signs wondering why any big "American" car manufacturer is actually manufacturing abroad.

NO ONE is holding up signs and demonstrating why LEVIS Jeans, the football your are playing with or most goods you get at Walmart are actually made in Sri Lanka or Pakistan by children.




Those folks in India that answer the phones, the folks in China that make the shoes, the folks in Sri Lanka or Pakistan that make other goods, aren't leeching off of our welfare system. I have a problem with losing 20% of my paychecks every month so some unemployed person (person who can work, but doesn't) or some illegal immigrant can benefit without putting any taxes back into the system.

It's upsetting that illegal immigrants benefit without putting anything in. Same goes for anyone able to work, but doesn't because it's easier to get state and federal aid than put in a 40 hour work week and lose their 20% too.

That's the problem with illegal immigration, or at least it is within my point of view.
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posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 09:25 AM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: neo96

No one really thought corporations were bad back when jobs were still here. The idea was that manufacturing jobs were off shored and replaced by technology jobs. Problem with that is automation of processes.

Its not that corporations are evil. Its that Citizens United has made them into Frankensteins Monster, and they are exploiting lower labor costs over seas, rather than hiring here in their own back yard.

Is that really a problem? Currently, yes it is.


Eventually there will be nowhere where human labour is cheap enough to compete with machines.

How will you keep on to that paradigm that only people who are employed and paid enough for it may live, the rest being free to starve?

Somehow I doubt you'll be able to sell that crock any more. Somehow I doubt people will simply accept they should live in destitution in what could be a cornucopia of abundance brought about by automation and technology.

But it won't come to that. Because businesses need purchasers.

So before it will ever come to that, a guaranteed minimum income will be instituted. Regardless what the common folk on the right believe or want.

By the way, it is only an illusion that human labour is even now cheaper in some places around the world.

It isn't.

It's just a matter of purchasing power parity.

A dollar simply buys a lot more abroad than it does back home. But this is ONLY for monetary reasons and because OPEC members STILL sell oil for dollars.

Without that, a negative trade balance would mean the dollar would be completely worthless abroad.

Unless US businesses doing business abroad would demand payment in dollars out of sheer patriotism.

Which I'm pretty sure they would not.

The ONLY thing giving the dollar value right now is the fact that you can buy oil for it.

The only reason OPEC still sells oil for dollars is because FEAR of meeting the same fate as Saddam, Gaddafi and, probably soon, Al-Assad.

The US economy is being propped up by:

1. The petrodollar.

2. What gold it still has left from what it stole from the rest of the nations through the Bretton Woods monetary system. Or the illusion of more gold than it actually has left.
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posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 09:27 AM
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originally posted by: manna2
That is so totally wrong...no, i have to just say that is stoooooooopid. I know of no one that is unemployed and will not take a manufacturing job. And these are KIDS being shipped in, not working age men and women. You must be too young to work, am i correct? Granted, todays high school grads have attitude and feel entitled. Going hungry from losing job after job (if they can find a job) usually cures most ills learned while in publicly paid confinement during their dumbing down process) usually helps cure most of these unproductive, learned traits. Construction jobs were good entry lvl type jobs where a kid could learn a trade and find mentoring on how the world and job mkt REALLY worked. But those jobs are set aside now for mexican workers.a reply to: solongandgoodnight


So the folks in construction would set a kid straight on how the world REALLY worked. Except those folks are unemployed themselves now.

Guess they didn't know how the world REALLY worked themselves after all.

Probably, cause I'm pretty sure most they are all staunch right wingers.
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posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 07:07 PM
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originally posted by: Chiftel

originally posted by: manna2
That is so totally wrong...no, i have to just say that is stoooooooopid. I know of no one that is unemployed and will not take a manufacturing job. And these are KIDS being shipped in, not working age men and women. You must be too young to work, am i correct? Granted, todays high school grads have attitude and feel entitled. Going hungry from losing job after job (if they can find a job) usually cures most ills learned while in publicly paid confinement during their dumbing down process) usually helps cure most of these unproductive, learned traits. Construction jobs were good entry lvl type jobs where a kid could learn a trade and find mentoring on how the world and job mkt REALLY worked. But those jobs are set aside now for mexican workers.a reply to: solongandgoodnight


So the folks in construction would set a kid straight on how the world REALLY worked. Except those folks are unemployed themselves now.

Guess they didn't know how the world REALLY worked themselves after all.

Probably, cause I'm pretty sure most they are all staunch right wingers.
uhm, the mexicans took over most construction jobs. It used to be good paying jobs. The kids had a chance to learn a trade and be mentored on the responsibilities in keeping a job and producing a quality product. Is that a right winger ideal you can understand?

we are in the greatest depression. Construction jobs are scarce now. Most people I know that need work will take work when available. You dont seem to know very much on "how things really work". Think how much better off yould be if mentored properly
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posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 07:09 PM
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Why did they take over? Whose interest was it to pay less for labour?



posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 08:09 PM
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a reply to: manna2

I am self employed at the age of 28 getting my hands dirty daily. I am not afraid of manual labor, and because of that, and the grace of God, I am able to support my family.

Jobs with manual labor are available, most folks here are just "to good" to take them.
WAKE UP.
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posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 08:50 PM
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What exactly do you want me to wake up to? I am more aligned to your plight than against it. Your blessed to have work. Alot of communities are in bad shape. More people on gov assistance than ever before. Manufacturing long since shipped out of the country. They are in the process now of replacing the welfare consuming black workforce as well as the high waged white workforce for the latino workers that work hard and cheap.

i am sorry that our cost of living will be quadrupled within a year or 2. And that the dollar is about to be devalued by 40-60% driving up the costs of all imports. You sound like a hard worker and deserve better. But better isnt coming fora long while.a reply to: solongandgoodnight



posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 09:59 PM
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a reply to: NoRulesAllowed

Both sides are controlled by the same interest they have their fair share of cronyism. But the Limited government, free market, constitutional rights, private property, republic beliefs of the conservatives is the correct ideology, even though many times they sell out on their core ideology.

The left is big government, soclialism, etc. It is more align with totalitarianism. Also, NAZIs (national socialists) are socialist.



posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 11:41 PM
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a reply to: solongandgoodnight

you're forgetting that a lot(if not most) of the unemployed right now, are not from this latest generation of wrong-minded "the world owes me a living" sorts..



posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 11:46 PM
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a reply to: EternalSolace

actually, they ARE leaching off our system...or, i should say the company they work for is...

by offshoring the jobs, they deprive americans of jobs, shortening their list of options, until there are virtually none left. this causes increased unemployment, and increased dependance on social aid programs, which increases the financial burden on the government, which causes them to raise taxes, which increases the financial burden on taxpayers, which weakens their purchasing power, which hurts the economy, which then hurts the bottom line of the companies, which causes them to fire people, which causes increased unemployment, and increased dependance on social aid programs...

this cycle is not sustainable, and it doesn't have a happy ending..
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posted on Jul, 14 2014 @ 06:34 AM
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a reply to: manna2

Where I'm from oilfield jobs are in abundance, which believe me, is HARD work. I started working on a work over rig at the age of 14 in the summers.

But a lot remain unemployed to stay away from these jobs because they are tough. Instead, they draw unemployment to barely get by. The sad thing is, I'm not making this up.

Is there anything wrong with drawing unemployment? No, unless there's an available job you just won't take.

I'm not talking just about manufacturing jobs. But yes, you are correct, the economy sucks. But there are still jobs out there if you're willing to use your hands.
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