Waco and Jonestown? Can you fill me in?

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posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 12:34 AM
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I woke up with 9/11, even though I had some sense that JFK's murder was highly suspicious.
I just spent an hour checking out the conspiracy aspects of Waco and Jonestown on the internet, but that was not enough to feel I have a grasp of the reality behind those two tragedies.

The CIA, as usual, seem to leave their evil fingerprints on both cases. But are the CIA evil, or are they the instrument being used by evil higher ups? It's sort of like the argument I have had with friends as to what extent Obama is guilty of things such as the drone assault on Pakistan and Yemen. Who is in charge is the question. When it comes to the CIA, is who is in charge still the question?

Were Waco and Jonestown actually conspiracies? I was asleep then.




posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 12:38 AM
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originally posted by: droid56
I woke up with 9/11, even though I had some sense that JFK's murder was highly suspicious.
I just spent an hour checking out the conspiracy aspects of Waco and Jonestown on the internet, but that was not enough to feel I have a grasp of the reality behind those two tragedies.

The CIA, as usual, seem to leave their evil fingerprints on both cases. But are the CIA evil, or are they the instrument being used by evil higher ups? It's sort of like the argument I have had with friends as to what extent Obama is guilty of things such as the drone assault on Pakistan and Yemen. Who is in charge is the question. When it comes to the CIA, is who is in charge still the question?

Were Waco and Jonestown actually conspiracies? I was asleep then.



posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 12:40 AM
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a reply to: droid56
Oops, wrong forum. Oh well.
I thought this was general conspiracies.



posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 12:49 AM
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You can even here Cia connection in the Jonestown death tape, Jim Jones says "Get Dwyer out of here". (Dwyer the known CIA agent), that mother effer Jim Jones didn't expect to die that day imo, i'm pretty sure some abc agency offed him right as he out lived his usefulness.

Waco i know less and it always seemed like less of a gov op, but i doubt the fbi would be stupid enough to kill those babies on tv (tho Koresh's gang may have lit the fire too), unless to make a horrific example, both of those cults were pretty damn sketchy.
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posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 01:03 AM
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Were Waco and Jonestown actually conspiracies? I was asleep then.



Older family returning from Vietnam talked about the gulf of Tonka thats when it started for me I woke up .


Waco was a horrid over reach of the government. I worked with a accountant her and her hubby worked at the Davidians right after they got married and sporadically took time off to work there . What she saw and people she knew there both were adamant that it was a smear campaign there is some good independent documentaries out there. It broke my heart watching her at work during the stand off.
I think it was a example to all of us. We the government is your higher power.



Jonestown I know whats in the news.

Now JFK I was young then when it happened but later read a heap about it. I know there is far more than the official story .

Read 1984, Mein kompf project paper clip and compare today to your parents days.


You will need alot of these .



posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 01:09 AM
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I too was asleep till I read random people on the Internet. Now I am completely awake. Thanks random Internet people. You saved me from needing critical analysis and logic be gone!!!!!
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posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 12:56 PM
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hehe, yeah i noticed that too..
it's not as simple as watching a good doco and saying "righto, that makes sense"

 

..i wonder if the OP has looked into things like MKUltra yet?



posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 01:17 PM
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Alex Jones did a good documentary on Waco.





Here's a video about Jonestown




posted on Jul, 8 2014 @ 01:48 PM
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Jonestown I don't know, but Waco seemed to be clear government overreach to me. Although my dad who was at the OKC trials heard some things from the agents who worked with him that make him second guess that, at least the ones he talked with said there were some on the ground who genuinely believed the women and children were being killed when the government went in.
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posted on Jul, 17 2014 @ 01:49 AM
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Every time I hear Waco mentioned, I always wander in my mind to Ruby Ridge. I know in Ruby Ridge it ended with only the guy living through it winning a lawsuit for a good chunk of change many years later against the Feds because it was proven to be their fault entirely. Ever since I read that, I am skeptical of EVERYTHING that has the government involved in raids.



posted on Jul, 17 2014 @ 02:20 AM
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If you're interested in Waco, you should also look up Ruby Ridge. It's part one.





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