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President Obama has granted Attorney General Eric Holder permission to assert executive privilege to withhold documents related to the failed gun-running operation Fast and Furious, The Associated Press reports, just as the House of Representatives was getting ready to vote on holding Holder in contempt of Congress for not turning the documents over. The House Oversight Committee, led by Rep. Darrell Issa, has been investigating the ATF's 2009 operation Fast and Furious, which let guns be trafficked into Mexico on purpose so they could be tracked. [...] Issa's committee has subpoenaed thousands of documents related to the case, and Holder has not provided all of them.
Update: House Republicans say the move won't stop them from proceeding on the resolution to hold Holder in contempt. NBC News reports Deputy Attorney General James Cole sent this letter to Issa today. The key part is in the first paragraph.
The Honorable Darrell E. Issa
Chairman
June 20, 2012
Committee on Oversight and Government Reform
U.S. House of Representatives
Washington, DC 20515
Dear Mr. Chairman:
After you rejected the Department's recent offers of additional accommodations, you stated that the Committee intends to proceed with its scheduled meeting to consider a resolution citing the Attorney General for contempt for failing to comply with the Committee's subpoena of October 11, 2011. I write now to inform you that the President has asserted executive privilege over the relevant post-February 4, 2011, documents.
We regret that we have arrived at this point, after the many steps we have taken to address the Committee's concerns and to accommodate the Committee's legitimate oversight interests regarding Operation Fast and Furious. Although we are deeply disappointed that the Committee appears intent on proceeding with a contempt vote, the Department remains willing to work with the Committee to reach a mutually satisfactory resolution of the outstanding issues.
Over the last fourteen months, the Department has provided a significant amount of information to the Committee in an extraordinary effort to accommodate the Committee's legitimate oversight interests. The Department has provided the Committee with over 7,600 pages of documents and has made numerous high-level officials available for public congressional testimony, transcribed interviews, and briefings. Attorney General Holder has answered congressional questions about Fast and Furious during nine public hearings, including two before the Committee. The Department has devoted substantial resources to responding to these congressional inquiries.
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: CloudsTasteMetallic
Unless I am missing something the contempt vote on Holder already occurred. He was found in contempt of Congress in 2 areas. Criminal contempt as well as civil contempt.
Criminal contempt requires the DOJ to launch an instigation, which they refused to do.
The Civil contempt, instead of going to the DOJ, goes to a Federal judge who has the right to review the files in question and determine if executive privilege applies.
If I remember my Supreme Court cases Executive Privilege cannot be invoked to hide illegal activities.
United States v. Nixon, 418 U.S. 683 (1974), was a landmark United States Supreme Court decision. It resulted in a unanimous 8-0 ruling against President Richard Nixon and was important to the late stages of the Watergate scandal. It is considered a crucial precedent limiting the power of any US president.
Sirica denied Nixon's motion and ordered the President to turn the tapes over by May 31. Both Nixon and Jaworski appealed directly to the Supreme Court which heard arguments on July 8. Nixon's attorney argued the matter should not be subject to "judicial resolution" since the matter was a dispute within the executive branch and the branch should resolve the dispute itself. Also, he claimed Special Prosecutor Jaworski had not proven the requested materials were absolutely necessary for the trial of the seven men. Besides, he claimed Nixon had an absolute executive privilege to protect communications between "high Government officials and those who advise and assist them in carrying out their duties."
Less than three weeks later the Court issued its decision. The justices struggled to write an opinion that all eight could agree to. The stakes were so high, in that the tapes most likely contained evidence of criminal wrongdoing by the President and his men, that they wanted no dissent. All contributed to the opinion and Chief Justice Burger delivered the unanimous decision. After ruling that the Court could indeed resolve the matter and that Jaworski had proven a "sufficient likelihood that each of the tapes contains conversations relevant to the offenses charged in the indictment," the Court went to the main issue of executive privilege. The Court rejected Nixon's claim to an "absolute, unqualified Presidential privilege of immunity from judicial process under all circumstances."
originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: CloudsTasteMetallic
No worries man.. These scandals are dragging out an unusually long time. I had actually forgotten about this until you posted so thanks for the reminder.
My primary concern is how far will Obama go? If he is blatantly ignoring the Constitution, not to mention laws, it tells me he is approaching, if not already arrived, at the point of no return. Knowing the ramifications of what he is doing, he is continuing to do it.
Im not sure if the above is coming across correctly -
Essentially - A person who is planning on committing a crime is faced with 2 options -
* - Decides not to commit the crime knowing the consequences.
or
* - Decides to go balls to the walls knowing the outcome of his actions and vowing not to be taken alive. He has mentally committed himself to the criminal act and everything that follows along with it. He knows his act is illegal and decided this is the last chance he will get before incarceration / death if caught. If he comes out alive without capture his plan works.
(I am not applying the scenario to Obama, just the mental status he seems to be exhibiting).
I am wondering how any Supreme Court ruling reference the Republicans suing Obama for abuse of authority can apply to this case, if at all.
The 9 to nothing vote against Obama and his appointments to the NLRB by SCOTUS, ruling it unconstitutional, should have been a wake up call.
a reply to: MarlinGrace
Nope you nailed it. Holder was suppose to leave at some point before the end of this year however I don't think that is likely based on the large object careening at Obama and Holder at cosmic velocities.
If the Republicans keep the House and win the Senate I truly think Impeachment is a real possibility.
President Obama has granted Attorney General Eric Holder permission to assert executive privilege to withhold documents related to the failed gun-running operation Fast and Furious,
originally posted by: macman
a reply to: CloudsTasteMetallic
We are witnessing the most corrupt Admin in many many years.
Most transparent?? Yeah right. If you believe that, then I have some really safe property to sell you in Chicago.
originally posted by: jimmyx
do the republicans every want to work with democrats again? or is it just stall and bitch?