posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 05:39 AM
originally posted by: EternalSolace
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
Complete sentimentalization. This is not 100% lethal. This does not bypass the immune system.
Everything you wrote is 100% wrong.
He altered the flu to a pre-pandemic state, which MAY make the antibodies specifically created against this flu no longer work. New antibodies would
be created by our immune system though.
This is not 1% as bad as you made it out to be.
A virus that the body cannot defend against, is lethal. Yes, he altered the strain to its pandemic state. In doing so, he did, not may, make
antibodies useless. If a flu can evade the immune system, like the article said, it makes it 100% lethal.
False. Can you show me where the source says this? It doesn't, because it's absolutely false.
Unless I'm reading this wrong, and he just created a new strain that has no current antibodies, but the body still can create antibodies to
combat the virus, then I understand how I was wrong in my understanding.
You mean like I said you were .... so because you seemed to not hear the first time, you are reading it wrong. I explained to you what the article
said. You are getting caught up in the JOURNALIST who is paraphrasing the actual scientists words. Don't ever listen to that, journalists have no
clue what they are talking about. Look at the actual quotes.
This is from the article...
Professor Kawaoka has so far kept his research secret but admitted that the work is complete and ready for submission to a scientific journal.
The experiment was designed to monitor the changes to the 2009 H1N1 strain of virus that would enable it to escape immune protection in order to
improve the design of vaccines, he said.
That does not mean the immune system has no way of defending itself. It means the virus has at least one way of evading the immune response. An
example of an immune evading virus is Hep B. The liver is an immunopriviledged, so by hiding in the liver the Hep B virus is using an immune evading
tactic. Viruses in nature develop immune evading tactics, so all this guy is doing is saying what if Flu did this, what would we do to combat it?
Hint Hep B has a vaccine for it. Many bacteria have immune evading tactics. NONE of them are 100% lethal. You simply do not know what the terms are
and bought into journalist sentimentalization.
But from what I gather, he created a virus that the body cannot make antibodies to defend itself. Therein lies my concern and point of the
thread. If I'm wrong in my comprehension, please help clarify.
False. He developed a virus that has methods of defeating the immune system. No where does he say there is no way to fight it off. We all have some
antibodies that provide a first line of defense, he engineered it to beat that first line of defense. The immune system has a wide array of responses,
and nothing at all in this article suggests this virus has a high mortality rate.
ETA: Just to make the point even more clear .. Flu strains ALREADY USE Immune Evading Responses. They are not 100% lethal.
edit on 7-7-2014 by OccamsRazor04 because: (no reason given)