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originally posted by: nugget1
All I can add is that it is there.
In times of deep devotion, or great need it can be experienced.
A total disconnect with all things material and superficial seems to be a factor; when you have no emotional connection/bond to this earth, you may reach this state.
Just my observation.....
originally posted by: arpgme
To say it in a simple way, The Metaphysical Consciousness is Love.
Love is Life. It is The Creator, The Maintainer and The Protector. It is The Warmth of Light.
originally posted by: XxRagingxPandaxX
Reminds me of the studies they did on tibetan monks. Their gama wave emissions while they were engaged in compassion meditation were off the charts. As for myself I would have to give it thought. I have been in extraordinary states not induced by drugs, but rather meditation.
I am well aware, however, of the danger of tying spiritual belief to any scientific system. . . . This is not to say that I consider things like the oracle and the ability of monks to survive nights spent out in freezing condition to be evidence of magical powers. Yet I cannot agree with our Chinese Brothers and sisters, who hold that Tibetan acceptance of these phenomena is evidence of our backwardness and barbarity. Even from the most rigorous scientific viewpoint, this is not an objective attitude. At the same time, even if a principle is accepted, it does not mean that everything connected with it is valid. . . . . Great vigilance must be maintained at all times when dealing in areas about which we do not have great understanding. This, of course, is where science can help. After all, we consider things to be mysterious only when we do not understand them. . . . . Through mental training, we have developed techniques to do things which science cannot yet adequately explain. This, then, is the basis of the supposed ‘magic and mystery’ of Tibetan Buddhism. (Dalai Lama, 2002, pp. 230-243)
When the Hebrew Patriarch, Moses, gathered 70 elders from the tribes of Israel for a feast to celebrate the tribes' new Covenant with the God, Yahweh, Moses and the elders must have put themselves into a trance, because the Bible says they "saw the God of Israel. Under his feet there was something like a pavement of sapphire stone [sephir], like the very heaven for clearness [Exodus 24:9]." The word, "sephir," can be translated as "sapphire," referring to the clear, dark-blue mineral often used in jewelry, but an alternative translation, based on what is known about the trade routes of that time, is that sephir as used here must refer to another dark blue mineral, "lapis lazuli," widely available in the Middle East at that time. In either case, it is clear that Moses knew how to induce a meditative state in which visions of clear, blue, stone-shaped lights began to appear.
"FOG, SMOKE, WIND, FIRE"