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The Christian right seeks cultural and political domination

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posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 09:59 AM
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. . . I've glanced at your links and holy crap how do you even breathe smothered under all that propaganda? It's not even intelligently done, just a bunch of emotive buzzwords strung together in idiotic phrases . . .



BELOW are the famous leaders et al who Kali74 seems convinced merely strung "buzz words" together in "idiotic phrases" in their quotes at the link below.

I would agree that these folks are skillful at using buzz words to manipulate the serfs and slaves. And I'd agree that their values, goals, methods are tyrannically evil and therefore idiotic to the core.

But that's probably not what Kali meant when she used those terms.

These folks are not, in general, given to spewing idle blather of no content or impactful meaning. And when they wrote or spoke the quotes listed above their names, They had (and still have) THE WEALTH, THE INTENT AND THE POWER to carry out exactly what they were writing and talking about. And the progress since the earlier quotes has been deadly and massive.

Anyone ignorant of that progress is asking to be blindsided with a tyranny many times worse than that of WWII's examples.


Do YOU think these blokes idly blather nonsense?


GLOBALISTS &/OR THEIR OBSERVING CLOSE-AT-HAND COHORTS QUOTED BRAZENLY ADVOCATING GLOBALISM, GENOCIDE ETC:


1. Adams, Brock Dir UN Health Org
2. Alexander, M.C. 1919 Exec Sec Am Assoc 4 Interntl Conciliation
3. American Mercury Magazine 1957
4. Annan, Kofi UN SEC GEN
5. Arguelles, Jose NM Prof 1987
6. Bailey, Alice 1975 Lucis Trust bks
7. Benson, Ezra Taft 1899-1994 Sec of Ag during Eisenhower
8. Beria, Laventi Re psychopolitics; Stalin’s chief of security
9. Bernays, Walter 1928 ‘Propaganda’
10. Bethell, Tom 1997 American Spectator
11. Biden, Joseph R Jr 1992
12. Blavatsky, Helena ‘The Secret Doctrine’
13. Butler, Nicholas Murray 1915 Union League
14. Caldwell, Taylor 1974 ‘The Captains & the Kings’
15. Callaway, Oscar 1917, Congressman
16. Christian Science Monitor editorial 1920
17. Churchill, Winston 1922
18. Claudy, Carl H
19. Clinton, Hillary
20. Cohen, Richard M Senior Prod of CBS Pol News
21. Coleman, Dr John 1992 former intel agent of British MI6
22. Corbett, P.E. 1942 leftist Institute of Pac Rels
23. Cousteau, Jacques-Yves 1991 The UNESCO Courier
24. Crowley, Aleister
25. Cuddy, Dr Dennis
26. Dall, Curtis FDR’s son-in-law
27. Declaration of the Fed of the World …Legislatures of No. Carolina 1941, NJ 1942, Penn 1943
28. Dewey, Thomas E 1944
29. Disraeli, Benjamin 1844 & 1856 1st British Prime Min
30. Dodd, William E 1937 U.S. Ambssdr to Germany
31. Dulles, John Foster 1944
32. Eakman, B.K. ‘Educating for the NWO’
33. Episcopal Church in General Convention 1940
34. Falk, Richard A 1975 bk On the Creation of a Just World Order
35. Fin, Tom 1975 NY Times
36. Frankfurter, Felix 1952 Supreme Court Justice
37. Fulbright, William Senator 1963
38. Fuller, Maj Gen J.F.C. 1941
39. Gaither, Rowan 1954 re engineering merger of USA with Soviet Union
40. Gardner, Richard 1974 CFR Jrnl Forgn Affrs
41. Garrison, James Pres of Gorbachev Foundation
42. Gephardt, Richard 1990 in Wall St Journal
43. Gingrich, Newt
44. Goldwater, Barry 1964 Senator
45. Gonzalez, Henry US Rep 1994
46. Gorbachev, Mikhail, 1987, Politburo address & 1988 at the UN
47. Greenwood, Arthur 1940 British War Cabinet
48. Hall, Manley P
49. Hall, Manley P ‘The Secret Destiny of Am’
50. Harper’s Magazine Jul 1958
51. Hitler, Adolph 1933-1945
52. Hoover, J Edgar
53. Hubbard, Barbara Marx re ‘World peace & environ. Mvmts [frightful quote]
54. Humphrey, Hubert H 1977 VP in Penn Gazette
55. Hylan, John F 1922 NYCity Mayor
56. Jenner, William 1954 Senator
57. Kah, Gary re The Environmental Agenda
58. Kennedy, JF 12 Nov 1963
59. Kennedy, Joseph 1936 father of JFK
60. Kissinger, Henry 1994
61. Koeppl, Dr Johannes B 2001 German Def Min
62. Krauthammer, Charles 1996 Wash Post
63. Lawson, Thomas 1904 Everybody’s Magazine
64. Lincoln, Abraham
65. MacArthur, Gen Douglas 1957 re blind obedience to gov
66. Malone, George 1957, Senator of NV
67. McDonald, Larry P 1976 Congressman Killed mysterious Korean Air crash
68. McGovern, George 1991 NY Times
69. McNamara, Robert 1981 SecDef during VietNam
70. Minter, William 1977 Professor CFR
71. Nixon, Richard 1967 in Forgn Aff; 1972 NY Times
72. Notre Dame Prof 1942 “…Sovereignty Must Go” in The Tablet
73. NY Times 1942
74. Page, Ralph W 1944 in The Phil Bulletin
75. Pierce, Chester M. 1973 Harvard Univ psychiatrist
76. Pike, Albert
77. Price, John Randolph founder ‘The Planetary Comm’
78. Quigley, Carroll 1966 Prof & Mentor of Bill Clinton
79. Rakovsky, Christian G re money, banking, Communist Intl Red Symph
80. Rarick, John R 1971 Lousianna Congressman
81. Rockefeller, David 1991
82. Rockefeller, Nelson 1962 Gov NY
83. Rockefeller’s General Education Board 1938
84. Roosevelt, FD
85. Rosenthal, A.M. 1991 in NY Times re Bush
86. Roosevelt, Teddy
87. Safire, William 1991 in NY Times
88. Salant, Richard Pres CBS News
89. Schlesinger, Arthur 1975 CFR Jrnl Forgn Affrs
90. Scowcroft, Brent 1990 in Wash Post
91. Shoup Laurence H 1977 Professor CFR
92. Smith, C. William 1950 official journal of …
93. Smoot, Dan FBI Headquarters member
94. Spangler, David
95. Stalin, Joseph
96. Stedman, Stephen John 1995 in Forgn Aff
97. Stevenson, Adlai
98. Strong, Maurice UN environmental leader
99. Svali—pseudonym of an illuminati mind programmer
100. Swinton, John 1953 re nonexistent ‘freedom of the press.’
101. Talbot, Strobe 1992 Clinton’s Dep Sec State
102. Thomas, Augustus O. 1927 Dr Pres World Fed of Ed Assocns
103. Thomas, Norman 1944
104. Toffler, Alvin & Heidi
105. Toynbee, Arnold 1931
106. Truman President
107. Turner, Ted CNN founder
108. U.S. State Dep Document 7277 ‘Freedom From War 1961’
109. Warburg, James 1950
110. Ward, Chester 1956 Rear Admrl, Navy Judge Advocate
111. Washington, George 1798 letter [a PRIMARY source material]
112. Welles, Sumner 1942 Undersec of State
113. Wells, H.G. 1939 BK: The NWO
114. Wilson, Woodrow, Pres 1913

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posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 10:00 AM
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a reply to: NavyDoc

The article itself made mention of Hobby Lobby. I included that quip. I also said that recently around here there had been an uproar about Hobby Lobby. THE THREAD was not about Hobby Lobby - it's been done to death.

Nor is it about gays or birth control or the tax codes. NONE of those things.

It is about a VERY REAL and increasingly powerful once-fringe group of Evangelical Bible-Thumpers who want to take over all aspects of our society.

WHY does no one get that??!!!!!

I suppose it's the title (which I DID NOT COMPOSE).


I do want to apologize to Xtrozero, however, because the "byline" of the article on Global Possibilities was NOT, in fact the author. It was the person who posted it. The article WAS written by CJ Werleman, and yes, he is very much anti-religion.


edit on 7/7/2014 by BuzzyWigs because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 10:02 AM
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originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: NavyDoc
The government--and people who talk in the theater.


Probably explains why I do not go to the movies.


I cannot think of a greater evil.


I can.

While progressives certainly are near the top of my list as they are for world domination, the ultimate evil would be vampire-clowns employed by the IRS.

I don't think the world has much to worry about Christians. (in my humble opinion)



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 10:03 AM
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originally posted by: beezzer
While progressives certainly are near the top of my list as they are for world domination, the ultimate evil would be vampire-clowns employed by the IRS.


I hate clowns. I hate spiders too.

I guess that is why It freaked me out.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 10:05 AM
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originally posted by: vjr1113

originally posted by: pirhanna
Yes, this is true, but it's missing the bigger game going on. Right / Left is a false dichotomy in a closed system that ignores all the other possibilities so as to maintain population control. Whoever wins, we still lose - as long as we keep seeing things from within the box they put us in.


i disagree the labels exist for a reason, fundamental differences in beliefs. usually the right are considered religious conservatives and the left are considered open minded liberals.

i personally don't believe that these labels are being represented as they should. we should, instead of dividing ourselves, try to decide what beliefs should be taught to the next generation, as a whole society.
yes the labels are there so that the Hegelian dialectic can be used to manipulate society with. They get tools to go around picking either the reaction or the problem, force the debate and steer the solution to their predetermined result. [snipped]
edit on Tue Jul 8 2014 by DontTreadOnMe because: We expect civility and decorum within all topics.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 10:09 AM
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a reply to: BO XIAN

I have a hard time, as a psychologist and as a sociologist . . . to explain

ANYONE reading authentic quotes from such folks [the sources are listed in most cases and are checkable]

. . . how can ANYONE read such and still think that

such wealthy, powerful, DEDICATED, ruthless etc. global leaders are just idly farting without any meaning or consequence to be concerned about?

UNLESS

the folks claiming such are one of the following

1. Utterly clueless about geopolitics, values, wealth, power, conspiracy--really totally uninformed.

2. Utterly unable, without capacity to grasp the complexities involved.

3. Utterly disinterested, turned off, disdainful to the point of a major mind block that just refuses to consider the facts.

4. For some mystifying irrational reason think it's all a media fairy tale.

5. Are totally dedicated to the globalists and their goals and are merely trolling such topics to trash all opposition.

6. Are dyed-in-the-wool hedonists, rebellious against God and any and everything that claims God as a worthy focus.

7. or ???

Actually, the title is partially right. The globalists ARE working for a theocracy. They are DETERMINED AND WILL install the literal fallen angel satan incarnate as world ruler and leader of the one world religion to be worshiped as God Almighty--satan's enduring arrogant goal--even though he knows his 3.5-7 years of such leadership will be his flash in the pan before he's imprisoned in the nether regions.

But that's the OPPOSITE of what the OP contends.

Time will tell.

Choose this day whom you will serve. There are NOT a LOT of options, at the foundational levels.

All the other pretend options are smoke screens.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 10:13 AM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

The key line for me in the link from the Original Post was this:


Should the Christian Right help the GOP retake the Senate, the Piper will need to be repaid.


This assumes that every politician follows through on their campaign promises. Platitudes and lip service.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 10:15 AM
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originally posted by: BO XIAN
Actually, the title is partially right. The globalists ARE working for a theocracy. They are DETERMINED AND WILL install the literal fallen angel satan incarnate as world ruler and leader of the one world religion to be worshiped as God Almighty--satan's enduring arrogant goal--even though he knows his 3.5-7 years of such leadership will be his flash in the pan before he's imprisoned in the nether regions.


Did you just lump everyone in the alleged 'Powers that Be' into some sort of all-encompassing belief in the Christian Devil?



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 10:15 AM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Good point. Thanks.


I sincerely hope, still, just as I did when I first heard about these people, that they REMAIN a fringe group...
unfortunately the governor of my home state is one of them, and I also posted information about how his imposition of Dominionist dogma backfired. I am relieved to see that he (Brownback) is now probably going to be ousted because of those ham-fisted failures.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 10:17 AM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
unfortunately the governor of my home state is one of them, and I also posted information about how his imposition of Dominionist dogma backfired. I am relieved to see that he (Brownback) is now probably going to be ousted because of those ham-fisted failures.


Which was for his 'failed Libertarian policies'. Hopefully more people move towards this platform which boils down to, 'stay out of my business'.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 10:23 AM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: BO XIAN

Corporate Statism is a decent term for where we might be headed however you need to realize that such is not Socialism, Communism or even Capitalism, it's not a combination of any of the above, it is its own monster... born out of unfettered Capitalism... Fascism.


Uhhhhhh . . . the globalists are the ones who first asserted in sober articles and speeches that they were combining Communism and Capitalism.

One COULD imagine that SINCE THEY HAVE THE POWER, THE WILL, THE DETERMINATION AND THE WEALTH TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT . . . that perhaps that was exactly what they were doing.

Certainly they are lusting after the tyrannies of Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot, Mao, etc. and all the UTTERLY RUTHLESS control that such "COMMUNIST" countries demonstrated.

CERTAINLY they are lusting after the trashing of Christianity that all the "COMMUNIST" countries demonstrated.

CERTAINLY they are lusting after the monopolistic STATE OWNED AND MANAGED components of industry that the "COMMUNIST" countries demonstrated.

CERTAINLY the monopolies of "capitalism" so pervasively achieved and demonstrated by the same blokes transferring in and out of government the last 60 years . . . are EXTREMELY CLOSE to the monopolistic STATE OWNED industries of the "COMMUNIST" countries.

The globalist oligarchy folks are the same folks that own those corporations overwhelmingly . . . who are the same folks passing in and out of governmental leadership rolls to and from the corporate leadership roles.

Yeah . . . yada yada yada . . . it can be argued that only the New Testament exhibited "true Communism" when in Acts it talks about the believers holding all things in common and no one lacking anything.

But let's not kid ourselves. If the New Testament Christians who were authentic enough to routinely see true healing and other miracles . . . were not saintly enough to maintain such a "true communism" more than however many years or decades . . .

who is stupid enough to think that ragingly evil blokes would achieve such an impossible stunt?

So, let's just settle on the sensible fact that when "Communism" is used as a term, at least a few billion people will think of one thing--the Communism in the Communist countries of the last 100 years.

And . . . yeah, you can say it's all Statism. True enough. But in the globalists minds, they are morphing together Communism and monopolistic capitalism

WITHOUT CHRISTIANITY--CREATING THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT THE OP CONTENDS.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 10:24 AM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs

Talk about hostile rants and fantasies....and non-Christian behavior.


This is what kills me... do you want us to act like Christians or don't you?

Make up your mind please.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 10:25 AM
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a reply to: BO XIAN


I have a hard time, as a psychologist and as a sociologist . . . to explain

I also am a sociologist and was a practicing clinical therapist, BO... Your "credentials" do not impress me, nor do you do them any honors. YOU do NOT have a monopoly on those topics, and YOUR ideas are quite skewed, and mistaken. Your hysterical, prickly, repetitive insults do NOT help your case, nor does repeatedly insulting others and name-calling. I know you are an Evangelical/Pentecostal type, which IS the topic of the thread.

You have a very clear agenda of your own - to browbeat anyone who is NOT keen on your Evangelical/Pentecostal opinions and dictums. I'd like to disabuse you of the idea that you are "helping" your cause. You are merely presenting the archetypal deranged, obsessive, self-righteous "blather" that has run so many away from organized religion to begin with.

Shame on you.
Nasty, nasty, mean behavior.
Yikes.

You can go rant about Agenda 21 and the Satanists-at-large population in your own thread, please. If you refuse to address the very real issues in THIS thread, but only are here to throw ad hominem mud, then there is no reason for you to be here (except to prove the point that people who think like you do actually BELIEVE they are qualified to judge everyone else and impose their ideology on the lot of us).

I will not address you further. I will, however, report you if another abusive post comes from you in this thread.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 10:26 AM
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This is what kills me... do you want us to act like Christians or don't you?

Make up your mind please

I want you to act like ADULTS having an intellectual discussion about the direction this country is headed, and those who are pushing for it to become a theocracy.

But now that you mention it, BO actually DOES act like the very Christians who are the problem.
so, meh.

Just stop attacking people. Attack ideas.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 10:27 AM
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Did you just lump everyone in the alleged 'Powers that Be' into some sort of all-encompassing belief in the Christian [BIBLICAL] Devil?


Pretty much.

It's just the facts as I've studied them since 1965.

I'd rather it weren't true. It just happens to be true.

Many involved probably don't realize it. The top leaders certainly do.

It would be great to be able to verify the assertion around about that the top level leaders have to bugger little toddler boys and then sacrifice the kid to satan in an initiation ritual to join the upper ranks.

But that's not exactly the sort of thing that makes it into a 'reality TV' show, now, is it.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 10:30 AM
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originally posted by: manna2

originally posted by: vjr1113

originally posted by: pirhanna
Yes, this is true, but it's missing the bigger game going on. Right / Left is a false dichotomy in a closed system that ignores all the other possibilities so as to maintain population control. Whoever wins, we still lose - as long as we keep seeing things from within the box they put us in.


i disagree the labels exist for a reason, fundamental differences in beliefs. usually the right are considered religious conservatives and the left are considered open minded liberals.

i personally don't believe that these labels are being represented as they should. we should, instead of dividing ourselves, try to decide what beliefs should be taught to the next generation, as a whole society.
yes the labels are there so that the Hegelian dialectic can be used to manipulate society with. They get tools to go around picking either the reaction or the problem, force the debate and steer the solution to their predetermined result. You can see it in play with all of buzzys threads.


Oh, noes!

Not the Hagelian Dialectic!!!

I suppose if you dread Dialectical analysis so much, calculus and binary searching must keep you up at night:



It cannot be that Dialectical material analysis is simply a binary search applied in sociology?

Surely, it also cannot be that society naturally pendulates between right wing and left wing politics, would it?



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 10:31 AM
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What's abusive about postulating that there are limited options for sources of support for the PTB foisting THE OPPOSITE OF YOUR OP CONTENTIONS on the planet?

You say that "A" is the reality. I'm demonstrating that THE OPPOSITE OF "A" IS THE REALITY.

Your title and your OP were every bit as abusive of me and my perspective and cohorts as anything I've written. Sheesh.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 10:32 AM
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originally posted by: BO XIAN
Did you just lump everyone in the alleged 'Powers that Be' into some sort of all-encompassing belief in the Christian New Testament [BIBLICAL] Devil?

Fixed that a little bit better than before.

Pretty much.
It's just the facts as I've studied them since 1965.
I'd rather it weren't true. It just happens to be true.
Many involved probably don't realize it. The top leaders certainly do.
It would be great to be able to verify the assertion around about that the top level leaders have to bugger little toddler boys and then sacrifice the kid to satan in an initiation ritual to join the upper ranks.
But that's not exactly the sort of thing that makes it into a 'reality TV' show, now, is it.


All this 'Satan-is-coming-end-of-times' doom paranoia is rather irrelevant to the thread. Unless of course the extremists groups in the Original Post stated that their desire to push towards a non-secular government was due to this belief.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 10:33 AM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: NavyDoc

The article itself made mention of Hobby Lobby. I included that quip. I also said that recently around here there had been an uproar about Hobby Lobby. THE THREAD was not about Hobby Lobby - it's been done to death.

Nor is it about gays or birth control or the tax codes. NONE of those things.

It is about a VERY REAL and increasingly powerful once-fringe group of Evangelical Bible-Thumpers who want to take over all aspects of our society.

WHY does no one get that??!!!!!

I suppose it's the title (which I DID NOT COMPOSE).


I do want to apologize to Xtrozero, however, because the "byline" of the article on Global Possibilities was NOT, in fact the author. It was the person who posted it. The article WAS written by CJ Werleman, and yes, he is very much anti-religion.



Because many people disagree that there is an evil Bible thumping conspiracy to rob you of your rights.

I'm not religious at all, but I was raised in a very religious household, so I do find myself trying to be the voice of reason when I see anti-Christian hysteria. I'm probably only ex-Catholic who was never molested, beaten, abused, made to feel guilty, etc. I had a fine upbringing (with exception of the whole poverty thing) but I grew out of religion--I didn't see any empirical evidence that supported any of their claims. I guess that makes me an atheist or agnostic or whatever label people quibble over.

Regardless, I don't see this "coming theocracy" that everyone on the left is holding up like a bogeyman to frighten the true believers. As previously mentioned, we have more acceptance of alternative lifestyles and belief systems than we ever had. MJ is becoming legalized. Religion is being pushed out of the government and government offices and buildings more so now than ever before.

The "religious nutjobs" have neither picked my pocket nor broken my leg, or to say, haven't really threatened my rights at all. If I don't want to worship, I don't have to. The only thing that bothers me right now, is I can't get a bloody mary on Sunday until noon.

However, when it comes to an eternal and aggressive restriction of my rights and my income and my pocketbook--that's coming from the progressive left much more than the religious right. The left likes to point out loons like Fred Phelps and cries "Christian Taliban" to distract you from them putting their hand in your back pocket.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 10:35 AM
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originally posted by: NavyDoc
The only thing that bothers me right now, is I can't get a bloody mary on Sunday until noon.


Wow. There really is a Devil.



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