The Christian right seeks cultural and political domination

a reply to: NonsensicalUserName

Are you THAT unaware of The current Destroyer-in-Chief's history in

HIS OWN WORDS?

Sheesh. The MSM is NOT your friend . . . IF you are interested in TRUTH.

The evidence is out there IN HIS OWN WORDS.

I'm shocked . . . utterly shocked at your lack of knowledge and awareness on that topic.

In terms of the OP . . . your example is yet another example of why the OP is a stinking pile of balderdash . . .

Y'all seem to have zilch awareness of the very thing being discussed. Shocking.

THE TRUTH IS MUCH CLOSER TO THE OPPOSITE OF THE OP'S CONTENTIONS!

PLEASE Do some research before you and your family suffer outrageously through such gross lack of knowledge and lack of awareness.

a reply to: amazing

You are evidently not only on a different planet but in a different galactic cluster far away from this one.

Since you seem to have had all your senses anesthetized the last 60 years, I'll try and bring you up to date . . .

"Christianity" has lost ground

1. In the educational arena by edict--where Islam is given a free pass and even witchcraft is given a supportive boost while Christianity has been ran out of the arena on a rail.

2. In the media by wave after wave of hostile-to-Christianity movies, TV programs, music etc.

3. In the body politic with wave after wave of laws and regulations making it unlawful to practice simple benign aspects of one's faith that were heretofore common place and accepted as fitting by one and nearly all.

4. In the neighborhoods where regulation and law after regulation has limited even simple home prayer groups--where possible, out of existence.

5. In arenas of public discourse where "Political Correctness" has exalted Islam and every other fool -ism and trashed Christianity relentlessly.

6. In the workplace where "Political Correctness" has exalted Islam and even witchcraft while trashing Christianity relentlessly.

7. Even in the churches which the globalist oligarchy has deliberately infiltrated and watered down to meaningless almost Anti-Christ social 'weakly-do-goodism' without the soul and heart of The Gospel of Jesus The Christ . . . and extremely hostile to the miraculous in the Bible as well as in modern Christianity.

Actually, the facts are ALREADY OPPOSITE the statements in the OP and racing toward being EXTREMELY OPPOSITE the statements in the OP.

originally posted by: misnomer68
a reply to: BasementWarriorKryptonite

Why does another person's religious beliefs make them your enemy?

That type of thinking is exactly why we are a dysfunctional society. Either you are with me, or you are against me.

Because I've had it up to my eyeballs with religion. I've just had it.

a reply to: BO XIAN

I see this nonsense a lot. Please do explain for us ignorant folks how the corporatists are anything but corporatist. How exactly are they communist? How is a one world government communist? Using one thing you don't like and attributing something else you don't like to it doesn't actually make them one in the same, it means there's two different things you don't like.

originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite

Because I've had it up to my eyeballs with religion. I've just had it.

Sounds like a duck.
Waddles like a duck.
Flies like a duck.
Quacks like a duck.
Lays duck eggs . . .

Sounds like a serious ATTACHMENT DISORDER based personal problem, to me.

However, I understand . . . lots of ATSers blame it on the religion . . . probably of their perpetrator(s).

Nice rationalization. It works . . . to a limited degree . . . for a while.

However, it is NOT a remotely viable explanation for the nonsense in the OP.

From what I've seen of Coulter,Hannity et al recently the right seems to of finally exceeded the left in the US looney stakes I disagree the Christian right is becoming increasingly marginalised and looking crazier by the day.

It might really be a much better survival habit if you'd expand your reading considerably. The MSM is far too often spewing the OPPOSITE of THE TRUTH.

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: BO XIAN

I see this nonsense a lot. Please do explain for us ignorant folks how the corporatists are anything but corporatist. How exactly are they communist? How is a one world government communist? Using one thing you don't like and attributing something else you don't like to it doesn't actually make them one in the same, it means there's two different things you don't like.

11. "The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent." Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviets.

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127.The invisible Money Power is working to control and enslave mankind. It financed Communism, Fascism, Marxism, Zionism, Socialism. All of these are directed to making the United States a member of a World Government..." American Mercury Magazine, December 1957, page 92

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From the FIRST of the links just below:


twoday.net...

www.crossroad.to...

www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com...


twga...

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1891: Cecil John Rhodes organized a secret society to take control of the world. His mentor at Oxford University was John Ruskin. Ruskin has a swastika engraved on his gravestone, just as Rhodes Trust member Rudyard Kipling has on the covers of his early books.[11] Prior to Adolph Hitler, the swastika, which reportedly also has been seen at the S&B vault at Yale University, was an elitist symbol. In an apparent contradiction, John Ruskin referred to himself as a Tory and a Communist. [12]However, one must realize that the elite have no qualms about working with both the political left and the political right, with an ultimate goal of synthesizing them into a world socialist government.

From:


www.crossroad.to...

a reply to: BO XIAN

You're damn right! The trouble for you is that your side is the crazy side and not only that, your side has had thousands of years to get it right and all you've done is fk it up.

Either time travel back 500 years or deal with the fact that you live in a world where the crazy god that you want to rule everything is redundant or at the very least a failure.

a reply to: BO XIAN

The Rockerfellers' own the US Christian right there are old threads here on it just about every prominent Christian right televangelist or pastor has links to the Rockerfellers' via the Reverend Moon.The church has been deliberately destroyed from within although the major players are probably too busy making a motza to know the big picture.

a reply to: khnum

Seems like brushed up against that rather preposterous theory a long time ago.

I've had too many folks in my personal network too close to some of those famous evangelist types to believe such a blanket blackwashing, however.

a reply to: BO XIAN

I dont go to church anymore the spirits of Balaal,Nicolaitaines and Jezebel have just about got them all now with most baptisms these days your not getting the holy spirit but holy **** I know judgement starts with the church first but there aint much of one left.

a reply to: khnum

I've been out of church for over a year, IIRC.

They are in dreadful shape . . . too many to most of them, imho.

a reply to: BO XIAN

Pardon me for being so unread but perhaps you can take a bit of knowledge (not propaganda) from one such as myself? Communism and Capitalism any form of either are asynchronous (I do hope an illiterate used that word properly). Communism is a system in which a community holds wealth while Capitalism is a system where an individual can hold wealth.

It really is pure idiocy to think either can mutually coexist. I've glanced at your links and holy crap how do you even breathe smothered under all that propaganda? It's not even intelligently done, just a bunch of emotive buzzwords strung together in idiotic phrases designed to strip you of any critical thought and put you in a conspiracy euphoria.

I would suggest in the future that if you want to toss insults at people who call you on the utter BS you spew consistently, that you toss up some links that are fit for more than wiping the drool, formed while you engaged in such confirmation masturbation, off your chin.

a reply to: Kali74

Wrong again.

I've studied the globalism stuff and globalists since 1965.

The quotes in that first link are absolutely accurately in keeping with the primary documents and piles of like materials of the last 60-200 years.

Significant amounts from PRIMARY DOCUMENTS. There's a primary document--a letter of George Washington in that first link of

QUOTES FROM FAMOUS PEOPLE.

If you don't like the wording the FAMOUS PEOPLE USED . . . perhaps they'd appreciate your editorial advice.

You could call, for example,

Henry Kissinger
Some of the Rockefellers
CNN founder Ted Turner
The Sr Bush
The Clintons
Clinton's mentor

Various Senators
Various educators
Sec State's past
etc.

I'm sure they'd be impressed by your offer to help them with their wording--seeing as how INEXPERIENCED at giving public addresses and writing in public professional journals some of them are.
/sarc

However, your post did give me a good clue that your glance at the statements by a long list of famous people must have been of nanoseconds duration.

Now as to the business about Communism vs capitalism . . . that you seem so hung-up in the past on . . .

I didn't decide to marry the two--THE GLOBALISTS DID on their orders from the king of hell.

But it's not so hard to understand.

Communism at it's most typical is INTENSE STATISM

Capitalism that's morphed by deliberate manipulations into MONOPOLISTIC CAPITALISM

IS ESSENTIALLY . . . CORPORATE STATISM.

They are essentially, at this point, twins.

And the leaders of both float in and out of corporatism halls of statism vs governmental halls of statism back and forth like a rapidly spinning revolving door.

The human critter has demonstrated an UTTER INCAPACITY to manage either the fanciful idea of "pure" Communism . . .

as the human critter has demonstrated an UTTER INCAPACITY to bridle his lust and greed for power when given the opportunity to "advance" capitalism to monopolistic statism.

So, perhaps you can tell us . . . how is it that different when the current Destroyer-in-Chief maneuvers the automakers into greater degrees of government control and ownership vs when Stalin et al consume Soviet auto manufacturing? The details are probably RELATIVELY minimal in terms of some of the dreary outcomes.

I suppose it's acceptable that you didn't manage to more than glance for a few nanoseconds at the quotes from the famous leaders of the last century or two as they worked tirelessly toward the global government merging Communism and monopolistic capitalism.

You'll suffer the effects of their view points and manipulations soon enough.

Perhaps then, you'll have a bit more respect for how they worded things. They meant what they said and said what they meant.

AND, THEY'VE LONG HAD THE POWER AND THE WEALTH TO MAKE IT ALL HAPPEN.

And they've been busy at it . . . turning the water up slowly on the frog in the bucket as fast as they could without the frog realizing what they were doing.

a reply to: BO XIAN

"Christianity" has lost ground

Yes the last Supreme Court case proved that.

1. In the educational arena by edict--where Islam is given a free pass and even witchcraft is given a supportive boost while Christianity has been ran out of the arena on a rail.

No religion is allowed in public schools. Also Christians basically have their own school system in almost every town there is a school run by the church you can't say the same about other religions.

2. In the media by wave after wave of hostile-to-Christianity movies, TV programs, music etc.

Oh please Christians have their own channels on satellite networks.

3. In the body politic with wave after wave of laws and regulations making it unlawful to practice simple benign aspects of one's faith that were heretofore common place and accepted as fitting by one and nearly all.

These laws were passed to keep religion out of the government that is something the founder of this country wanted.

4. In the neighborhoods where regulation and law after regulation has limited even simple home prayer groups--where possible, out of existence.

People were trying to run churches where they were not allowed by the laws of the community.

6. In the workplace where "Political Correctness" has exalted Islam and even witchcraft while trashing Christianity relentlessly.

The last case by the SCOTUS favored Christianity over all other religions.

7. Even in the churches which the globalist oligarchy has deliberately infiltrated and watered down to meaningless almost Anti-Christ social 'weakly-do-goodism' without the soul and heart of The Gospel of Jesus The Christ . . . and extremely hostile to the miraculous in the Bible as well as in modern Christianity.

If you want to blame someone for that blame the church and the people that supports those churches.

The entire premise of this thread is a farce.

Never in the history of this country has Christianity had so little influence over politics, business or the culture. It was much more prevalent and influential in the past; including at the founding of this country, (despite the simple minded denials to the contrary), right up until the 1960's.

Never have atheists, homosexuals or believers in Puff the Magic Dragon been more tolerated, more accepted or wielded more power than they have in the last several decades in the States.

And yet, where are we as a nation? Are we in ascendency? Hardly, we're in decline. I wonder why that is?

a reply to: BO XIAN

So you've bought snake oil since 1965. What you have in those links is a bunch of cherry picked quotes and believe that I would rather stab my eyes out than defend someone from the Bush clan but even their quotes are not what they are portrayed to be. You really need to stop thinking and speaking in memes... they're only you're friends when used satirically.

Corporate Statism is a decent term for where we might be headed however you need to realize that such is not Socialism, Communism or even Capitalism, it's not a combination of any of the above, it is its own monster... born out of unfettered Capitalism... Fascism.

a reply to: buster2010

I was beginning to think you were so late to the party as to be concerning.

Nice to see you are still functioning on your usual cylinders.

I don't think I'll bother much about your points.

It would have to be a very tedious exercise . . . not my favorite type.

Those who know better already know better and the rest are probably beyond influence.

Abraham Lincoln's House Divided Speech

A house divided against itself cannot stand. I believe this government cannot endure, permanently, half slave and half free. I do not expect the Union to be dissolved — I do not expect the house to fall — but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing or all the other. Either the opponents of slavery will arrest the further spread of it, and place it where the public mind shall rest in the belief that it is in the course of ultimate extinction; or its advocates will push it forward, till it shall become lawful in all the States, old as well as new — North as well as South.

I highlighted the most pertinent part.

We know what happened.... Do you really think the same thing won't happen with liberal, democrat, republican, left, right, christian, secular, etc....? The whole idea of the OP (real or imagined) is moot, since one way or another, a single ideology is going to be pushed and there's nothing we can do about it. A house divided against itself will NOT stand.

Humanity has to decide which ideology he/she is willing to live with...I believe that to be a much more pertinent and profitable debate.

Let's all watch it fall, together

originally posted by: BO XIAN
a reply to: buster2010

I was beginning to think you were so late to the party as to be concerning.

Nice to see you are still functioning on your usual cylinders.

I don't think I'll bother much about your points.

It would have to be a very tedious exercise . . . not my favorite type.

Those who know better already know better and the rest are probably beyond influence.

Everything I said is true. Christians just have to learn that Americans including some in the church doesn't think that they should be dictated how they should live their lives by the church. Religion has it's place in the church and in the home. It has gotten worse these last couple of decades as the Evangelicals have gained political power. Some of these people are real nutcases they claim that people have demons in them and if a woman is raped they can make their body abort the baby crazy things like that and these people are in our government. As they gain more power and try to force their religion on others expect people to complain about it more.