The Christian right seeks cultural and political domination

a reply to: BO XIAN

departure from faith in The Lord Jesus had far more to do with relationship angst than with any evidence or lack of evidence.

Again with the "Attachment Disorder" reasoning?

BO - I was very well cared for as a baby - my parents were good ones. As others have said above - I knew at a young age that the Bible stories were fiction. I knew - and I'm saying "KNEW" - that it was propaganda.

By seven or eight, easily. Kneeling in church, looking at my mother beside me bowing her head as low as she could get it while leaning over the pew - reciting that "we are not worthy so much....blah blah....have sinned against you in thought, word, and deed....blah blah....have done things we shouldn't, and left things undone that we should have done...blah blah...I'm a piece of crap. Blah."

You expect a little kid to buy into that? No. Just - no.
As a CHILD, my reaction was "What? Wait! I try to be good - I do as I'm asked - and STILL I'm unworthy?" As an older person, my reaction was "MEH."

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

I answer.
With song.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

You were there. I wasn't.

I just have not observed such feelings and attitudes in those of my face to face awareness without such a flaw in the works somewhere those years.

And, I've known plenty of folks, as likely you have, who insisted their childhood was wonderful . . . but which other relatives insisted otherwise.

originally posted by: BO XIAN
I just have not observed such feelings and attitudes in those of my face to face awareness without such a flaw in the works somewhere those years.

Are you insinuating that only people with an attachment disorder remove themselves from organized religion?

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Not really. Certainly not theoretically.

I just can't think of any in my personal experience face to face where that seemed to be the case.

originally posted by: BO XIAN
I just can't think of any in my personal experience face to face where that seemed to be the case.

Your anecdotal life experiences have just come into contact with at least two people that are within the parameters of having left organized religion and do not have an attachment disorder.

a reply to: BO XIAN

Hey BO. Did you miss my question I had for you a couple pages back???

www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

It seems to have become a catchall lately.
Saw earlier someone saying the problem with police officers was that a lot of them have "attachment disorder"......

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Have been pondering your question and my answer.

I think what I was keying in on . . . I have not met any in face to face relationships which left organized religion

WITH a hostile, negative, gritch, angst etc. about it all

WHO did NOT ALSO have significant levels of attachment disorder.

I have known lots of still authentic believers who left organized denominations but who are still Christians and probably better ones than many left in the organized denominations.

I'll take y'all's word for it. I haven't lived around either one of you. LOL.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: BO XIAN
I just can't think of any in my personal experience face to face where that seemed to be the case.

Your anecdotal life experiences have just come into contact with at least two people that are within the parameters of having left organized religion and do not have an attachment disorder.

Intelligence is why I left organized religion.

What does attachment/detachment disorder have to do with anything? Sounds like an invented excuse to me.

a reply to: HarbingerOfShadows

Welllllllllll, it is difficult to think of a psychological problem that's NOT physiologically based . . . which plagues relationships so horribly

which does NOT originate in serious attachment disorder.

It IS a VERY FOUNDATIONAL problem with far reaching impacts and is epidemic in the culture and the industrialized areas around the world.

Yes, it IS one of my main hobby horses BECAUSE I hate seeing individuals, families, work places and the culture SOOOO UTTERLY DEVASTATED because of it. So, I want to try my best to wake as many up to the realities involved as possible. And they ARE pervasive and far reaching into every area of life.

... including the ones the OP is about.

a reply to: Annee

Sorry. But I'm not greatly impressed with your discernment or assessments in such matters.

I think your fiercely independent biases have driven your choices rather screamingly.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs
If that WESTBORO guy EVER got elected I would buy a .50 cal and do my duty,however the whole game isn't ALL in human hands I think I am by no means positive but no MAN could control all of this.

originally posted by: BO XIAN
a reply to: Annee

Sorry. But I'm not greatly impressed with your discernment or assessments in such matters.

I think your fiercely independent biases have driven your choices rather screamingly.

Hyperbole?

Didn't know my no frill statements were designed to impress.

originally posted by: BO XIAN
WITH a hostile, negative, gritch, angst etc. about it all.

I certainly cannot speak for you (see how that works?) but if I feel I have gotten scammed I am usually a bit pissy about it.

a reply to: Annee
War and years of life can change you a great deal. NOT NOW of course we were ALL know it alls before 35 then EVERYTHING jumps you and reality forges the finished product. It can be DIVERTED and mitigated but in the end denying what is correct bites ones posterior.

a reply to: cavtrooper7

Anne is a lot older than you think....
What is correct? and you know this how? or is it just faith?.

a reply to: BO XIAN

Please stop playing armchair psychologist.
You're not qualified..........

You're reducing psychology to a way to call people names.

originally posted by: HarbingerOfShadows
a reply to: BO XIAN

Please stop playing armchair psychologist.
You're not qualified..........

You're reducing psychology to a way to call people names.

Actually BO XIAN is qualified !!!

a reply to: xuenchen

I highly doubt that considering.