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The Christian right seeks cultural and political domination

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posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 04:57 PM
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a reply to: windword

Well.

We are waiting for the brief.

Make the case.





posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 04:59 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I figured you'd be more rational than that. LOL.

I do disagree that there is no Almighty God to appeal to.

I also would agree that folks seem to have forgotten HOW to do so

EFFECTIVELY

and that said process has become dusty, full of cobwebs and generally in disuse and disarray.

I do expect that to change in the next several years or perhaps sooner.

I expect 4 & 6 year old little girls to appeal to Almighty God and the earth will open up and swallow up Generals and their whole armies in response to the little girls' petitions.

Don't know when such 'interesting' exchanges and results will begin to occur.

Once they do, it will be a whole different world.

Another thing . . . genuine resurrections from the dead will be commonplace.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 04:59 PM
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a reply to: imwilliam

In my opinion, writing laws that allow for the government to burden an individual's religious expression violates the Establishment Clause. Saying that it doesn't, as the ACT does, doesn't make it true.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 05:01 PM
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a reply to: NavyDoc



A progressive REGRESSIVE wants to tax me more and more for make up for "income inequality" and I say no thanks, they throw out some rabid epithets my way and work to get the government to take it form me by force.

Who is more a danger to your liberty?


ABSOLUTELY INDEED. Well put.

And the day will come . . . when resistance to the tyrannical oligarchy will involve not only forced wealth confiscation . . . forced income confiscation . . . but total compliance monitored by ID chip implants . . . and extermination on resistance to said compliance.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 05:03 PM
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originally posted by: BO XIAN
But some OT folks tried something similar . . . the demonic God "fell" over in the night and was broken in the presence of . . . I forget what . . . from the Jewish Temple.


Apocryphal stories with no repeatable results. And frankly I could care less if it pissed off the vengeful, vindictive God of the Old Testament. It might actually make me do it more.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 05:05 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus



Frankly I think most of us on this thread (you included) are fairly close in our stance on freedom. We would like as much as possible without it intruding onto another citizen's un-Constitutionally. Also, we would like other freedoms returned to us that an over-reaching Federal Government has taken away in the names of various causes and events to help 'protect' us.


ABSOLUTELY INDEED.

Particularly including the

FREEDOM TO BE LEFT ALONE . . . earning one's way . . . constructing whatever reasonable [in terms of damage to others etc] life one wishes to construct.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 05:08 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko


I take my understanding of the competing politic definitions of justice from Thomas Sowell, Ph.D. He wrote a nice little book called The Quest for Cosmic Justice. I highly recommend it. Dr. Sowell started out as a committed leftist progressive like yourself, but the realities of economics, among other things, shaped and changed his opinions over the years. So, he is well-equipped to understand both points of view as he has inhabited them.


ABSOLUTELY INDEED.

He has a real gift for putting things accurately and with a body slam to the core truth of the issues and situations involved.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 05:08 PM
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originally posted by: BO XIAN
I figured you'd be more rational than that. LOL.


I am glad you are laughing out loud but that is typically how people who know how to operate in the professional world go about our business. I also think that is why I typically get along with others as I respect their views and know how to have a discussion with them without resorting to tantrums.

I do disagree that there is no Almighty God to appeal to.
...

I expect 4 & 6 year old little girls to appeal to Almighty God and the earth will open up and swallow up Generals and their whole armies in response to the little girls' petitions.


More apocalypse doom porn?

Don't know when such 'interesting' exchanges and results will begin to occur.


I would wager never.

Another thing . . . genuine resurrections from the dead will be commonplace.


Is that so? I hope my pet gold fish Louie I had as a kid will be first. This time I will remember to change his water.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 05:13 PM
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a reply to: Dutchowl



The OP sounds like the Nazis did when they railed against jews back in the 1930s. Now its Christians that are enemies of the state. And we have more to worry from the left who are more guilty of crimes against society and are getting worse. I think people are beginning to look back towards the right as the lesser of two evils. I can't say that's a pleasant thought, but the left has completely shown themselves to be either idiots or psychopaths.


VERY WELL PUT. EXCELLENT POINTS. THX.

It's always shocked me to watch HOW OFTEN

AND HOW THOROUGHLY

the REGRESSIVES shoot themselves in the foot, in the heart, in the head . . . in their hands . . . and everyone else within range as well.

It's hard to think of a group MORE clueless.

I guess lobotomized . . . uhhh welll uhhh . . . never mind. LOL.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 05:15 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Kali74

Nope, socialism and communism are state controlled constructs that put the absolute power into the hands of the elite forever. They take away private property rights and the elite retain political power and control in the name of the people to make sure it's all "fair" for us little folks.

Study the Soviet Union. You had the vast mass of destitute workers in their "paradise" who "owned" everything, and the elite political class who actually administered it all in their name and lived high on the hog reaping all the rewards. In this case, the corporate, media, Hollywood, academic, political elites would just move into the political power party while all of us would be divested of all we had "for our own good."



ABSOLUTELY INDEED. WELL PUT.

As Animal Farm depicted so well . . .

SOME PIGS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHER PIGS.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 05:24 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

That would logically depend on where they are in the process of ramping such things up.

I don't think they've reached such critical mass yet where such would be very obvious.

However, their anti-cancer cure efforts
their polluting the food
their polluting the water
their polluting the air . . . with or without the nano-aluminum purported to be in "chemtrails" . . .

their endless wars . . .

their abortion mania

their birth-control mania . . . which I somewhat support where totally voluntary

their homosexual promotion stuff

and some odd other efforts . . . have likely decreased the rate of increase markedly from what it would have otherwise been.

I don't know at what point their genocidal efforts truly begin to look like that to the average person. Surprising numbers of folks in my social network have awakened to such realities the last 5-10 years.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 05:31 PM
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originally posted by: BO XIAN
That would logically depend on where they are in the process of ramping such things up.
I don't think they've reached such critical mass yet where such would be very obvious.


They obviously have not gotten anywhere since over the last 100+ years you are concerned about the total population has gone from 2 billion to more than 7. Not exactly what I would call a reduction, would you?



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 05:31 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

I totally agree with your post. America is starting to become more radical, and I have reason to be very afraid of this blight. As a trans person, I've grown up hearing the story of Brandon Teena, the transman viciously murdered because of his gender. Then you start hearing of other violence and discrimination that goes on to trans people, how we are most likely to be homeless, and more llikely to commit suicide. In my opinion, it comes from two direct sources: the Christian Right and misunderstood conceptions.

In the latter, the victimizers explain their actions because they felt like they were 'tricked', which gave them purpose to enact violence upon the trans person. It can also be the Christian right's fault because with the belief of homosexuality being a sin (and how trans people get lumped with them), the victimizers who adhere to the religion fall back on that excuse to justify their attacks.

Now imagine what happens if the government bends to the CR rule: For the Gay Rights movement as a whole, 50 years of advances and acceptedness will be dashed, the trans, bis, and other sexual/gender minorities, which are quite disenfranchised even now, will be considered abberations that will be targets for hate groups and others. violence against gays will skyrocket, not to mention the mental anguish the closeted or 'converted' will have once they feel the gap widen between their inner and outer selves.

Oh sure, it would be a lovely place for our god-fearing neighbours, but at what cost? I dare them to go to Matt Shepard's, Brandon Teena's, and all of the other families and victims of alternate lifestyle violence, look them in the eye and say that they deserved it because they are sinful abberations of God's creation. I plucking dare them

We need to nip this in the bud and fast.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 05:33 PM
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Well let's apply a little logic then. Jacques Cousteau, a marine biologist when asked how to end human suffering and disease he said that it was a terrible thing to say but the only way to do it was to decrease the population by 350,000 people a day. That was in 1991. Has the world population decreased at all? No? It's grown exponentially? Oh dear. Poor Cousteau must be rolling in his grave. Did he go about doing anything before he died to put this depopulation agenda into motion? If he did, it was a miserable failure.

So yes it was exactly



merely idle blather of no functional consequence



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 05:36 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: ketsuko


Everything you write or you quote, I could take out Christian right and put in Leftists and it would apply just as much.


Not hardly, lady. Not hardly. You maybe ought to read a bit more than you do. And leave the Bible alone for a while.




Buzzy, ketsuko wasn't saying that necessarily because he/she was supporting one or the other. Its true. The leftists are about the same with their tactics, goals and aims in fact they have been wining the war to subvert the nation LOL



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 05:41 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: BO XIAN
But some OT folks tried something similar . . . the demonic God "fell" over in the night and was broken in the presence of . . . I forget what . . . from the Jewish Temple.


Apocryphal stories with no repeatable results. And frankly I could care less if it pissed off the vengeful, vindictive God of the Old Testament. It might actually make me do it more.



In the last days.........



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 05:41 PM
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I think your assertion is inaccurate.

What would it have been WITHOUT any of their efforts?



130."The commitment of government to deal with the population issue is of course essential...There are many ways to make the death rate Increase." Robert McNamara, Secretary of Defense, New Solidarity, March 30, 1981
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From:

twoday.net...

And, obviously, they have not QUITE gotten to the stage when they can be ABSOLUTELY OPENLY BRAZEN ABOUT IT.

To fail to realize the seriousness of the under the table and somewhat visible efforts toward such . . . is not a good survival habit.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 05:44 PM
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a reply to: Kali74

That PRESUMES

that Cousteau took

--no part in globalists' discussions about strategies to carry out depopulation
--did not support such efforts at all with his wealth
--was not part of any globalist cabal working incrementally toward such.

Tell me . . . how many people will they have to kill OVERTLY . . . perhaps with Muslim swords . . . in YOUR COUNTY before you begin to reconsider the issue and the evidence?



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 05:45 PM
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a reply to: Kali74

So far, their efforts, by design, have been arguably mostly out-of-sight, out-of-mind.

Clever of the bustards.

However . . . the available information is more than a little convincing. There's got to be more than smoldering embers given the huge amount of 'smoke' evidence.



posted on Jul, 7 2014 @ 05:45 PM
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Matthew shephard was killed by an ex lover, who was also gay and was a competingmeth dealer, as was shephard. Its sad but true. a reply to: TheToastmanCometh



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