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Al-Qaeda has instructed their terrorist cells within the United States to start making wildfires

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posted on Jul, 11 2014 @ 08:18 PM
a reply to: 5StarOracle

I'm not suggesting that wildfires are not terrible things, and impact people in terrible ways. What I am saying that it doesn't have the same psychological effect as flying a plane into a building or detonating a bomb in a crowd of people.

posted on Jul, 14 2014 @ 11:16 AM
It appears the call has been heard:
"8 Wildfires In One Night In Sierra: Is It An Arsonist?"

Or maybe their god has gotten impatient and has followed the Mullahs suggestion:
"Heat, humidity, lightning and fire: Summer in Oregon"

Yupp definately Allah is working in for the Mullah
"Dry lightning expected in central Washington"

posted on Jan, 25 2015 @ 08:22 PM

Dear Reader, as a Volunteer Firefighter (and paid Wildland Firefighter) for 51 years, I find this thread rather interesting.

This subject is of extremely high interest among ICs since the 2007 Raging Fires in Greece and our successful deployment of Barricade Fire Blocking Gel on wildfires that were thought to have been started by terrorists.

The threat is considered very real, and we hereby offer excerpts from the Winter 2012 issue of Al Queda's Inspire Magazine that should serve to wake up those still in denial.

Wildfire threats and terrorist threats cross both borders with impunity and require us all to be prepared and vigilant.

These fanatics mean business. BTW, that is why you saw BLM, NPS and USFS personnel show up at BundyGate with AR-15's and other weapon systems not usually found on Park Rangers… they've been ready for many years.

This link takes you directly to this extremist maniacal magazine, which makes The Anarchist Cookbook look like My Pet Goat.

Inspire #9 Winter 2012

From the masthead:

Billings, Montana 81 miles sign = proof of location.

That's a big fire.

Al Qaeda Calls for Massive Forest Fires in Montana - ABC News › Investigative Unit

May 2, 2012

The men who launched al Qaeda's English-language magazine may have died in a U.S. missile strike last fall, but "Inspire" magazine lives on without them -- and continues to promote jihadi attacks on Western targets, offering detailed advice on how to start huge forest fires in America with timed explosives and how to build remote-controlled bombs.

Open-Source Jihad: Car Bombs Inside America

Coverup: Were Wildfires Started by Terrorists?

Feb 9, 2009
U.S. officials monitoring terrorist web sites have discovered a call for using forest fires as weapons against “crusader” nations.

A terrorist website was discovered recently that carried a posting that called for “Forest Jihad.” The posting was listed on the Internet on Nov. 26 and reported in U.S. intelligence channels last week.

The statement, in Arabic, said that “summer has begun so do not forget the Forest Jihad.”

The writer called on all Muslims in the United States, Europe, Russia and Australia to “start forest fires.”

FLASHBACK: June 20, 2007
 - The FBI alerted law enforcement agencies this summer that an al-Qaeda terrorist now in detention had talked of masterminding a plot to set a series of devastating forest fires around the western United States.

Did you read about that in your mainstream media?

A full-page recruitment ad.

Not on my watch
Not in my forest

posted on Jan, 25 2015 @ 10:05 PM

Some people are just so stupid they will believe anything. . . .

Lets not forget those terrorist lightning strikes by god. . . . Lolz

Seriously this thread is saying immagrants are starting fires now?

Must be the stupidest thing I have ever herd in my life.

I would like to see evidence of a single case of an immagrant setting a single fire. . . . Oh wait let me help you with that. . . . . . There arent any such retarded cases.

This thread belongs in the hoax bin.
edit on 25-1-2015 by FormOfTheLord because: (no reason given)

posted on Jan, 26 2015 @ 11:29 AM
a reply to: FormOfTheLord


Aha, a dissembler.

So nice to hear from an expert in the field.

Perhaps you would be so kind as to share with us your background in the fire service and reply directly to my comments, not the rest of the thread, as I did not specify "immagrants" (sic) anywhere.

Perhaps it is your comment that belongs in the hoax bin.

edit on 26/1/2015 by thorfourwinds because: ttyyppoo

posted on Jan, 27 2015 @ 12:38 PM
Greetings FormOfTheLord:

We haven't "herd" (sic) back from you.

Awaiting your proof that not even a single fire was started by "immagrants" (sic).

Thank you for your time and consideration… we are always eager to learn the truth, whatever it is.

With great respect,

Peace Love Light
Liberty & Equality or Revolution

posted on Jan, 27 2015 @ 02:30 PM

We don't recall seeing ads like this in Mexican media.

Following up on our contention that there is reason to think that 'some' wildfires have been ignited by illegal alien/terrorist 'ember bombs,' we share the following.

And then there's John McCain quoting the GAO report and getting flamed by the USFS. No surprise here, as the USFS/BLM are no fans of McCain.

John McCain Claims Illegal Immigrants Started Wildfires › US

Jun 19, 2011

A U.S. Forest Service official said today there is no evidence that illegal immigrants started some of the wildfires in Arizona, as Sen. John McCain had claimed.


Illegal immigrants suspected in 30 border fires in Arizona

Nov 22, 2011

People entering the U.S. illegally from Mexico are believed responsible for more than one-third of human-ignited wildfires in Arizona over a five-year period, according to a government report that could stoke congressional debate over illegal immigration.

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said the Government Accountability Office report supports remarks he made earlier this year after his state was hit hard by wildfires. At the time, McCain was accused of "scapegoating" immigrants.

Illegal immigrants are believed to have started 30 of 77 fires that were investigated from 2006 through 2010, according to the report by the GAO, the investigative arm of Congress.

NOTE: The GAO study began in 2010, so it didn't take into account the 2011 fire season, the worst in Arizona history, that McCain said included two fires that destroyed more than 60 homes.

GAO: Illegal immigrants caused nearly half of border fires

Nov 22, 2011

Illegal immigrants started nearly 40 percent of human-ignited wildfires along the border between Arizona and Mexico between 2006 and 2010, according to a government report that gives new credence to claims Arizona lawmakers made earlier this year during catastrophic blazes in the Southwest.

GAO: Illegals Suspected of Igniting at Least 30 Wildfires › News

Nov 23, 2011

People crossing the U.S.-Mexico border illegally are suspected to have been responsible for at least 30 wildfires in Arizona between 2006 and 2010, according to the Government Accountability Office (GAO).

“Based on our review of agency investigation reports, illegal border crossers were a suspected cause of ignition for 30 of the 77 [federally] investigated wildland fires, or about 39 percent,” the GAO reported in an audit released Tuesday.

GAO Report: Illegal Aliens Start Forest Fires | Center for Immigration Studies

Nov 26, 2011

Earlier this year, Sen. John McCain stated a fact – namely, that open borders lead to illegal aliens starting forest fires – and the usual suspects responded with the usual indignation. A new GAO report confirms that McCain was indeed correct.

At a press conference in June, McCain said: "There is substantial evidence that some of these fires have been caused by people who have crossed our border illegally. The answer to that part of the problem is to get a secure border."

ABC News claimed that McCain set off a "firestorm."

Amnesty groups said the factual comment amounted to "fanning the flames of intolerance."

La Raza board chairman Daniel Ortega said that McCain "owes it to us to not spread fear and hate."

Angelo Falcon, president of the National Institute for Latino Policy reasoned,
"With the lack of evidence, he might as well also blame aliens from outer space for the fires."

Illegal Aliens Start Massive Fire on South Texas Ranch

Aug 20, 2014

HOUSTON, Texas -- A group of illegal aliens and their smuggler started a massive grass fire on a ranch in South Texas after being pursued by agents from the U.S. Border Patrol.

The fire began at the end of a chase when the car carrying the illegal aliens left the roadway in what is known as a bailout. The car came to a stop on some dry grass and caught fire from the heat of the exhaust system as the occupants scattered into the brush.

edit on 27/1/2015 by thorfourwinds because: ttyyppoo

posted on Jan, 27 2015 @ 02:34 PM
Look, I'm not knocking the devastation that wild fires can cause, they can be deadly and devastating, a terror attack?

LOL That's pretty pathetic.


posted on Jan, 27 2015 @ 02:48 PM
a reply to: amazing

These fanatics are deadly serious and will stoop to any means possible to accomplish the stated goal.

The trouble seems to be that not enough people are aware of the situation and believe the pablum that is fed to them on the network news.

Full-page warnings screaming intent.

Thanks for the comment.

posted on Jan, 27 2015 @ 02:54 PM

originally posted by: thorfourwinds
a reply to: amazing

These fanatics are deadly serious and will stoop to any means possible to accomplish the stated goal.

The trouble seems to be that not enough people are aware of the situation and believe the pablum that is fed to them on the network news.

Full-page warnings screaming intent.

Thanks for the comment.

But that's the point, If, let's say this is the worst fire season in history and Al Qaeda has a part in it, most Americans will be unneffected or only marginally effected and there is no horror, like if a bus exploded something of that nature. It doesn't have the dramatic effect, that's why I think it's a bad idea for a terror attack. I'm not saying they won't do it, just that it won't have the same effect as a more conventional terror attack. Thanks for the info though! It is appreciated.

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