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My solution to Islam (from a western POV)

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posted on Jul, 5 2014 @ 04:07 PM
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a reply to: iskander683

when did the war in Iraq took place?

when did the bombing of Libya took place?

when did the war in Afghanistan took place?

when did other "kinetic actions", "sponsoring of the rebels" and other shadowy, disgusting deeds took place?

I agree that ISIS and it's actions do not belong to the 21st century, the question is why is the "west", namely USA openly and covertly supporting them?




posted on Jul, 5 2014 @ 04:12 PM
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a reply to: demus

I'm not sure what your point is.


(post by demus removed for a manners violation)

posted on Jul, 5 2014 @ 04:20 PM
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a reply to: demus

I'm not sure what your point is.

Even after your offensive little reply.



posted on Jul, 5 2014 @ 04:22 PM
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a reply to: iskander683

my point is that you should stop pretending like ISIS or whatever goes on in the Middle East has nothing to do with former and current world powers, namely USA and UK.

let me know if my point is not clear.



posted on Jul, 5 2014 @ 04:27 PM
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originally posted by: demus
a reply to: iskander683

my point is that you should stop pretending like ISIS or whatever goes on in the Middle East has nothing to do with former and current world powers, namely USA and UK.

let me know if my point is not clear.


The only thing he stated was that the barbarianism that ISIS is inflicting on people has no place in the 21st century.....

How you can blow that wildly out of proportion to say that he said something completely different is beyond me...

He didnt address anything else other then that......

Stop trying to be confrontational and instigate....
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posted on Jul, 5 2014 @ 04:30 PM
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a reply to: demus

Oh, my apologies. I thought you were responding to something I had written in my post. I didn't realise that I was pretending that ISIS or whatever goes on in the Middle East has nothing to do with former and current world powers, namely USA and UK.

Sorry that some things are so far beyond my comprehension.

I'll leave you carry on with your distasteful little posts. I'm off to bed as I have to work early in the morning.

Cheers, mate.

And thanks to ManBehindtheMask



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posted on Jul, 5 2014 @ 04:30 PM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask



Muslims need to remember that the Crusades took place quite a few years ago and just get on with their lives.


Crusades were mentioned in a manner like it was the last ever attack on Muslims.

I was just pointing out that that is not the truth.



posted on Jul, 5 2014 @ 04:35 PM
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In any conflict, there are winners and losers.

I honestly don't think that "non-participation" is going to be an option here.

The OP is facing this reality head on.

And there are those that disagree.

I only ask, then, what is another option?



posted on Jul, 5 2014 @ 04:36 PM
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a reply to: TDawgRex

When I see stuff like this, it breaks my heart. It shows a person opting for lazy... lazy thinking and lazy solutions. It also shows a person lacking empathy and insight. The mess of poverty, war, violence, dogma, religion did not happen in vacuum.



posted on Jul, 5 2014 @ 04:44 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

Let that area take care of its own problems. We already stepped in once and it didn't solve anything.



posted on Jul, 5 2014 @ 04:45 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: beezzer

Let that area take care of its own problems. We already stepped in once and it didn't solve anything.


So you are going with "non participation".

Do you think that will be effective for an extremist organization bent on bombing terrorizing the west?



posted on Jul, 5 2014 @ 04:50 PM
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a reply to: demus

Sounds like you are deflecting the "blame" to Christians by way of governments like U.S., U.K. etc.

What if all the wars were/are about money and connect to the international banking systems ?

What if this has nothing to do with religion ?

BUT, perhaps the Islam book has war and politics built in so to speak?

Mohammad was a war leader I think.

Maybe a comparison the the Jewish books and Christian books is in order?




posted on Jul, 5 2014 @ 04:57 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: TDawgRex

When I see stuff like this, it breaks my heart. It shows a person opting for lazy... lazy thinking and lazy solutions. It also shows a person lacking empathy and insight. The mess of poverty, war, violence, dogma, religion did not happen in vacuum.


What would be your solution?



posted on Jul, 5 2014 @ 05:04 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

not deflecting anything.

just pointing out that there is a part some governments play, never mentioned Christians.

everybody should be responsible for their own actions but we cannot deny involvement of foreign powers in the Middle East and that is exactly what too many members here are doing.

to make a comparison between books we should first read the books, don't you think?

peace, brother and however this may feel strange I feel very positive energy from you, completely different form previous posters; you seems to come with wisdom and for that I thank you.



posted on Jul, 5 2014 @ 05:04 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

Yupp, and it's hard to say how effective it will be if we haven't done it right?
We speculate all day on what might happen but don't see what good that does.
If they are going to attack us then they are going to attack us regardless of what we do or don't do.
No since getting more of our men and women killed and killing more of theirs in the idea of prevention of something that has not happen yet.

Kill kill kill them all seems like a very bad " solution" to me

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posted on Jul, 5 2014 @ 05:07 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80

Kill kill kill them all seems like a very bad " solution" to me


Dying or living under a terrorist caliphate seems like a bad "solution" to me.

ETA; This appears to be the solution we are now entering. Passive involvement at best. No more boots on the ground.

We will soon see how well this solution is going to be received.
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posted on Jul, 5 2014 @ 05:13 PM
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We are no where near living under or dieing from said caliphate....
They barely got control over there as it is.
So keep using that buzz word but try to look at it realistically please



posted on Jul, 5 2014 @ 05:24 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: beezzer
We are no where near living under or dieing from said caliphate....
They barely got control over there as it is.
So keep using that buzz word but try to look at it realistically please


I'm being very practical about this.

You either fight, don't fight, or surrender.

There aren't any other options.



posted on Jul, 5 2014 @ 05:24 PM
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Funny, everyone blames Islam when they obliviously haven't read the Talmud nor do they care about how Zionist policies have heavily impacted the Middle East in terms of destabilization.

Oh well. Americans love killing brown people anyway, and since the people in Israel are mostly white (how does that work again if they are true Israelite's?) everyone might as well just blame the Muslims.

Classic.




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