Isis chief appears in first video, calls on Muslims to obey him

a reply to: TDawgRex

I agree with you there!

a reply to: daaskapital

Not exactly...Even the UN says FSA = ALCIAduh-

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Nobody wants to admit who is really behind the continued destablization of the M.E. but it is so obvious...

a reply to: Signals

Classic deflection born of incredibly effective propaganda.

You can choose to either look the truth in the face and see it for what it is, or hide from it behind the clever facade.

Either way, evil prevails...

Doesn't really matter until it all comes too close to home eh?... Then we can find the appropriate agencies to blame.

Again?

The Big Anti-Christ, the US, is trying to do Syria as they did Libya and found out that Syria is more complex. This phony FSA has been exposed and never really had the Syrian people behind them.

Remember they tried the scam about chemical weapons, so transparent a lie and scam they abandoned trying to get in Syria as they got in Libya.

So what do they do…put real bad crap in the game and tell their demented puppets, ISIS, after the Syrians and Iranians whipped them in Syria…
“Go ye down into IRAQ and spread mischief” thus saith the lord, the US…

a reply to: Signals

Hmm.

As i said, the FSA were once allied with ISIS and Jabhat al Nusra, but they are no longer. As for your sources in the other thread, they aren't wholly legitimate. Especially Global Research:

In 2001, Chossudovsky founded the Centre for Research on Globalisation (CRG), located in Montreal, Canada, becoming its editor and director. It is "committed to curbing the tide of globalisation and disarming the new world order". CRG maintains websites in several languages, including the English-language GlobalResearch.ca, which are critical of United States foreign policy and NATO as well as the official explanation of the September 11 attacks in 2001 and the war on terror. He said that the Free Syrian Army was created by NATO. Chossudovsky also claimed that deaths of protesters in Maidan Square in Kiev were "triggered by Neo-Nazi elements", used "to break the legitimacy of a duly elected government." He is a favoured commentator at Russia Today. His opinion is regularly asked for by Press TV.

en.wikipedia.org...

Also, i think the problems in the Middle-East are so much more complex than say, Western interference. Problems there, date back thousands of years. For the Muslims, problems kicked off right after the death of Muhammad, some 1,500 year ago. To imply that the US is behind a lot of this mess is probably not the most sensible thing to do. Just my opinion of course.

Saddam was a necessary evil over there, he may have been brutal and led with am iron fist but that's the language they speak over there I'm afraid. He at least kept the country pretty stable compared to what it is now, it's a shame.

People who seek power are not the ones who should be given power. Remember this always.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

You just answered your own question. No one in their right mind. Brainwashed people. And it seems there are thousands and thousands of them. Those not in their right mind will follow him .. but also others will 'make friends' with him because they are scared of him.

ABSOLUTELY INDEED.

MEGALOMANIA FROM HELL LEADS THE PACK of like minded angry, hostile, ATTACHMENT DISORDERED, led-by-emotions, poorly educated, irrational, . . . hurting, vengeful . . . characters.

There sure seems to be a huge amount of mystifying globalist manipulations involved in all this . . . under the table and on top of the table.

originally posted by: groingrinder
People who seek power are not the ones who should be given power. Remember this always.

I've often thought that wanting power should be an immediate disqualification.

That candidates should be drawn from THE MOST DEMONSTRABLY MOST HUMBLE folks in a region . . . as testified by solid high quality social research studies.

Further, that within 1 years after taking office, leaders should be requalified to see if they have started to believe their own press clippings or still maintain an uncommon degree of humility.

a reply to: daaskapital
I have to disagree with you there. It's not just America, its Europe as well. Most of the current problems in the middle east stem from unilateral agreements made between European governments after their world wars. Sykes-Picot. The foundation of Israel. To imply that muslims are the only ones who have been killing each other for the past 1500 years is distorting the facts. Things are in turmoil over there because every leader they get is in someones pocket. When there's constantly an outside agitator such as France, Britain, Russia, America feeding arms to opposition groups and funding political action groups etc. this is what you get. Add into it the fact that they've only been blowing iraq up as long as I've been alive. American drones fly the skies with impunity raining death on people at weddings, birthday parties and family gatherings. Then people have the nerve to wonder why they are ticked off and want to kill anyone associated with America.


If the major powers werent constantly picking sides and stirring up trouble they probably would be getting along just fine in the middle east. Both of Americas best pals in the Middle East are some of the most vile bigoted nations on earth....Saudi Arabia and Israel. When you feed money to a country like Saudi Arabia that treats women like cattle and finances terrorists...this is what you get. When you feed money to a country like Israel that conducts unilateral assasinations, false flag attacks, and also acts of terrorism....this is what you get.

That line about Muslims fighting for 1500 years is total bologna. How many wars has brittain been a part of in the last 1500 years? What about christians? Russians? Chinese? French? I guess people like Hitler, Mussolini, Napoleon, etc were all closet muslims. This has nothing to do with people being muslims and everything to do with people being poor, destitute, and under constant bombardment by whoever feels like firing off a few rounds. What better way to create "terrorists" than killing people indiscriminantly and leaving survivors to hate you.

Of course ISIS is being run by black ops. The people joining to fight however are people that have been dodgin white phosphorous, depleted uranium, and bunkerbusters for the past 20 years or better. People who saw their relatives blown to pieces. Our vets do tours of duty and come home mentally unstable. Can you imagine what its like to live there? To grow up there? I for one feel sorry for them. At the end of the day the large majority of them just want to get on with their lives. The ones that cause all the trouble are the ones in charge or that want to be in charge....same as every other country.

a reply to: daaskapital

Are we sure that all these hideously dour men aren't clones?

I was sort of hoping we'd get a translation of what he said. Was he calling the people to Islam? That's sort of a signal of his intent.

a reply to: rustyclutch

Some fine points. Put simply...if you were a ten year old boy who watches the democratic army (tea party/republican/Grand Ole Army/whichever ridiculously narrow minded group) burn your hometown down...rape your mom and kill your family wouldnt you want revenge. We make comic books and movies about people who live through this kind of # and lead rebellions.

Remember..he was in Iraq living normally til 2003...so what did he lose?
What would you NEED to lose to be him?

all hail plankton

the ISIS= Islamic State/Caliphate is the fulfillment of Daniel... where the Greek Empire was broken into 4 kingdoms...

and then, out of One of those Kingdoms will arise the Beast, the end-times Empire, and eventually the AntiChrist,


that kingdom at the death of Alexander-the-Great was the Kingdom that included lands of Syria/Iraq/east-Turkey perhaps parts of Iran ~~~ the Kingdom back then (which is relevant to the "IS" of today) was called the Seleucid

..The Empire split into four kingdoms, which would retain their sovereignty in order from least to longest: the Seleucids in Asia Minor and the Middle East, the Antigonids in Macedon (an area partly encompassing Greece), the Attalids in Pergamum (Asia Minor) and the Ptolemys in Egypt.

source: wiki.answers.com...



the synopsis overview can be found in Daniel 8 -22 onward...

It does make clear that the present Caliphate is just the precursor 'State' and that as time progresses, that even al-Baghdadi will seem tame & cultured compared to the end-time Empire Caliphate of the AntiChrist led, in-humanity machine-of-death

what we want to be known is that the ancient Selecuid Kingdom would be the launching pad area for the Antichrist/Beast Empire...and the current ISIS-Islamic State & al-Baghdadi are just the start & Not the Final manifestation... al-Baghdadi will do his utmost to fulfill prophecy, just like the supposed harm that came to him, so that he had to reveal himself publically to keep the Caliphate growing..
the shrewd man will seem to fill all the required prophecies about the antichrist so that the actual evil Caliph that follows Baghdadi will be seen as the 'Peace-Maker' and the small horned/peaceful Lamb


lets see what transpires.... the "IS" must eventually require the Surrender of the Saudi Kingdom, must also settle its differences with the Shiite Caliphate we know as the Islamic Republic of Iran... so it might turn out that "IS" (the Sunni Caliphate) surrenders to IRAN/Persia or visa-versa....they must however control the ancient Syrian lands of the once Selecuid Kingdom to be Biblically/Prophetically correct

~2016-2018~ seems to be a reasonable time point...after the 2014-2015 Tetrad
& then after the extended 6 blood moon cycle which ends in 2016



www.trunews.com...
ADD: part of my comment:

StUdio musivick >

this beginning Caliphate will be born into/from the Seleucid Kingdom (Syrian lands) at Alexanders death (4 kingdoms from the 1 empire)... but the AC is not yet....
it will be a future Caliph that is the despicable person that seizes this reborn Caliphate in the Syrian-Iraqi lands...
interestingly enough, Obama has no plans after leaving office in 2016 [...]

a reply to: TDawgRex

Actually that plug of his is very effective. There are really only two types of leaders--those who take leadership by force and those who are given leadership. In both cases, showing humbleness and open arms is an effective appeal to one's followers as it dismisses the idea of an overlord and replaces it with someone open to the words of their followers--ergo, a servant of their people. I learned about this while taking organizational behavior and that little quote of Baghdadi shows that this guy knows how to work a crowd. Not good, not good at all.

They are looking heavily at what creates both followers of guys like this and guys like this. Most of the Minerva research deals precisely with this kind of thing as well the "narrative" stuff that was posted on ATS. All of it is basically declared to comprehend terrorism, its adherents and how to counter it.