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originally posted by: Snarl
a reply to: 727Sky
I think TPTB are holding this as their last ace-in-the-hole. We'll see it sprung on a grass-roots winner before enough people realize their vote really doesn't count.
Northeast 4 55,943,073. South 1 118,383,453. Midwest 3 67,547,890. West 2 74,254,423.
List of U.S. states and territories by population
"The dogmas of the quiet past are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty, and we must rise with the occasion. As our case is new, so we must think anew and act anew."
originally posted by: Moresby
The Electoral College is not a perfect system. But it does solve some problems with a straight majority vote system.
A straight majority vote system is even more ripe for corruption. Because candidates would strive to maximize their vote totals in areas of strength. That's a recipe for fraud.
But it does present a lot of problems for third party candidates. It's not perfect.
Trivia question (try to answer without Google):
Who was the last third party candidate to win votes in the electoral college?
(Of course, most recent elections are rigged one way or another. So none of this really matters.)
originally posted by: HarbingerOfShadows
a reply to: WeRpeons
I wouldn't go that far as to say the majority should rule.
The founding fathers were correct in my opinion by trying to avoid what they termed "the tyranny of the majority".
originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: Moresby
according to forrest gump that angry little man from alabama George Wallace
New York City
New York-Newark-Jersey City, NY-NJ-PA MSA
Los Angeles–Long Beach–Santa Ana, CA MSA
Chicago–Joliet–Naperville, IL–IN–WI MSA
Dallas–Fort Worth–Arlington, TX MSA
Houston–The Woodlands-Sugar Land MSA
Philadelphia–Camden–Wilmington, PA–NJ–DE–MD MSA
Washington, DC–VA–MD–WV MSA
Miami–Fort Lauderdale–Pompano Beach, FL MSA
Atlanta–Sandy Springs–Marietta, GA MSA
Boston–Cambridge–Quincy, MA–NH MSA
San Francisco–Oakland–Fremont, CA MSA
Phoenix–Mesa–Glendale, AZ MSA
San Bernandino–Riverside–Ontario, CA MSA
Detroit–Warren–Livonia, MI MSA
Seattle–Tacoma–Bellevue, WA MSA
Minneapolis–St. Paul–Bloomington, MN–WI MSA
San Diego–Carlsbad–San Marcos, CA MSA
Tampa–St. Petersburg–Clearwater, FL MSA
St. Louis–St. Charles–Farmington, MO–IL MSA
Baltimore–Towson, MD MSA
based upon 2013 population estimates from the U.S. Census Bureau