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originally posted by: TorqueyThePig
There are times when as an officer you have to fight for your life. When that is the case you do what you have to do.
That being said, this was not one of those cases. As an officer I just cannot back this guys actions. It was excessive force in my opinion.
One of the most important aspects of being a good police officer is the ability to determine and execute that amount of force necessary to gain control of a suspect. In this case I feel that he escalated to a step higher then he needed to. I feel that he could of utilized some grappling techniques instead of resorting to strikes to her head.
Strikes to the head are considered deadly force and should only be used when your life is in danger. Again, I don't feel that was the case here.
I actually had a drunk women try to take my gun out of the holster during a domestic disturbance and to subdue her I did not have to beat the crap out of her. A simple take down combined with a little grappling and the situation was contained. No injuries to anyone.
However, I wasn't involved in this situation and I really don't like to Monday morning quarterback but damn.......
originally posted by: abe froman
Watch VERY carefully at the 15 sec mark you will see that the women hits the cop FIRST. You hit a cop that's your ass, period. I've watched the video several times from different sources and noticed that on a majority they cover this up with a banner or scrolling text. Also Youtube will stabilize any video posted for free, how come we haven't seen this stabilized until now?
Looks like she gets 2 good ones in, right to his face.
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: diggindirt
Watching the video I suspected she might be. I work in Psychiatry, I was going to suggest she seemed like she might need psychiatric help but thought better of it.
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: diggindirt
Watching the video I suspected she might be. I work in Psychiatry, I was going to suggest she seemed like she might need psychiatric help but thought better of it.
originally posted by: TritonTaranis
I know everybody wants to give each other stars for condemning this action, but we don't have all the evidence as the incident was only partially film, as far as I could see she was resisting arrest and the cop was beating her, some cops are power trippers, most are not
Let's not jump the gun here
Tbh
One thing I've noticed about about ATS is people love to demonise the police, there are millions of police officers and they carry out there job and dozens of incidents daily, we cannot use a few hundred YouTube videos to demonise an duty which keeps use all safe
Just today I was shopping with my family, when the supermarket employees grabbed a scummy mouthy chav for shop lifting, he resisted for 10 minutes screaming foul language, I felt like kicking him in the face tbh I was with my kids sorry, but when police turned up, they had to put him in cuffs, and so it turned In to what looked like police brutality, but there was no other choice the man was resisting and aggressive, and a danger while making threats, he looked up and said to me... Look look are you watching this there hurting me
I said you deserve it now f@#*img sit still
Now had I off pulled my phone out and filmed it from that moment, amd should I have hated the police and the job they carry out and been anti government, I would have uploaded it to YouTube and portrayed it intentionally in a different light for YouTube hits
The reality is, they was just doing there job
originally posted by: lovebeck
originally posted by: abe froman
Watch VERY carefully at the 15 sec mark you will see that the women hits the cop FIRST. You hit a cop that's your ass, period. I've watched the video several times from different sources and noticed that on a majority they cover this up with a banner or scrolling text. Also Youtube will stabilize any video posted for free, how come we haven't seen this stabilized until now?
Looks like she gets 2 good ones in, right to his face.
I don't see her swinging at the cop. I see her putting her hands up to her head in order to try and protect herself from him beating her in the head and face.
This guy should be charged with assault and battery. Period. What she did is what ANYONE would do. It's instinct to try and protect yourself, especially your head, when being attacked. Especially from behind.
I have been in a similar situation. Not with the police, but with two wanna be thug girls who pulled me out of my car at a gas station and started to beat the crap out of me. Unprovoked. When all was said and done, one left in a cop car, the other in an ambulance.
If you've never been attacked from behind, unprovoked, you don't know what your reaction will be. It is basic human instinct to protect yourself. Flight or Fight.
I only see her trying to get her hands up in order to protect herself from being hit. He's still raining down blows to her head and her hands/arms are tangled in there. That's what I see anyway. Well that and an "officer" who needs to be fired, charged, tried and sent to jail.
originally posted by: TritonTaranis
I've seen half a dozen times "rude boy wannabe gangsters" mouth of to the police
Sure they have nothing on them offensive but they're insulting police officers for no other reason than showing of I front of there boys or just for the fact it popular to hate the pigs
Sorry but not only if I was a police officer but even if I was just a passer by I'd want the officer to arrest them for poor manors and a scummy attitude
And yes, if they resisted I'd probably beat there arse with the officer also
Pure scum get off my street
originally posted by: NthOther
I'm sure he was just having a bad day, everyone. Calm down.
I suspect that, in order to make the unjustifiable justified, they'll come up with a psychological disorder that affects cops disproportionately to the rest of the population. "Stressed-Induced Psychopathy", or some other BS.
They're running out of excuses, and they'll obviously try anything they think they can get away with.
Hm. What if rampant police brutality is just another method of intentionally provoking the population to turn on the government, thereby providing the pretext and justification for imposed disarmament?
No way.
originally posted by: TritonTaranis
I know everybody wants to give each other stars for condemning this action, but we don't have all the evidence as the incident was only partially film, as far as I could see she was resisting arrest and the cop was beating her, some cops are power trippers, most are not
Let's not jump the gun here
Tbh
One thing I've noticed about about ATS is people love to demonise the police, there are millions of police officers and they carry out there job and dozens of incidents daily, we cannot use a few hundred YouTube videos to demonise an duty which keeps use all safe
Just today I was shopping with my family, when the supermarket employees grabbed a scummy mouthy chav for shop lifting, he resisted for 10 minutes screaming foul language, I felt like kicking him in the face tbh I was with my kids sorry, but when police turned up, they had to put him in cuffs, and so it turned In to what looked like police brutality, but there was no other choice the man was resisting and aggressive, and a danger while making threats, he looked up and said to me... Look look are you watching this there hurting me
I said you deserve it now f@#*img sit still
Now had I off pulled my phone out and filmed it from that moment, amd should I have hated the police and the job they carry out and been anti government, I would have uploaded it to YouTube and portrayed it intentionally in a different light for YouTube hits
The reality is, they was just doing there job
originally posted by: sosobad
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: diggindirt
Watching the video I suspected she might be. I work in Psychiatry, I was going to suggest she seemed like she might need psychiatric help but thought better of it.
That's one hell of a superpower you have there buddy, you can accurately diagnose mental disorders by looking a min long video with no talking to the patient or even seeing her face! Just one look to the back of someone's head and boom "that person needs psychiatric help", you are a disgrace to your profession.
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
originally posted by: sosobad
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: diggindirt
Watching the video I suspected she might be. I work in Psychiatry, I was going to suggest she seemed like she might need psychiatric help but thought better of it.
That's one hell of a superpower you have there buddy, you can accurately diagnose mental disorders by looking a min long video with no talking to the patient or even seeing her face! Just one look to the back of someone's head and boom "that person needs psychiatric help", you are a disgrace to your profession.
Since when is "suspect she might be" an "accurate diagnosis"? When you work with a group of people for a long time you develop a sixth sense about it.
Only a fool such as you would take someone claiming to have a suspicion as them saying something is absolutely true. Foolish remarks like yours are why I erased it from my original post I was going to mention it in.