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Does the beast in revelation 13,1 actually have 8 heads and not 7?

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posted on Sep, 21 2014 @ 10:05 PM
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originally posted by: Maigret
a reply to: spy66


We are both on record here, each with our view of what the Bible says and means.



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posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 03:14 AM
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The ENTIRE Revelation 13:1 historic national wild beast, when "globalized" into the "scarlet wild beast", will be in totality the "8th King". The WHOLE "scarlet wildbeast", all "seven heads", and ALL the body, is ALL THE 8TH KING—The WHOLE THING.


It is King 8 because the 7th King dual horned Anglo-American [national] system will be deposed in national sovereign authority (Rev17:11-18, Dan11:42-43) with the rest of the nations (Rev16:13-16) into this "8th King" totality globally of [globalized] world government.


1. National Power - Revelation 13:1 is the "seven world powers" in a [NATIONAL] formative development as a "national wild beast" classic nation-state system development.


2. Globalist Power - Revelation 17 "scarlet wildbeast" is the GLOBALIZED version of that same "wild beast" base system. The 8th King is the GLOBALIZED absorption of that "national wild beast" into an "8th King" totality of world government. It is the whole globalized 8th King "scarlet wild beast" "springing from the seven" that dominates (Dan11:42-43), absorbs, conglomerates (Rev16:13-16), consolidates and centralizes all world government authority into the "scarlet wild beast" 8th King global "super structure" of true WORLD GOVERNMENT. The 8th KING is the WHOLE THING!



This is why the Revelation 13 and 17 wild beasts have the same "seven headed" structure, but it is the Revelation 17 globalization version that is the 8TH KING.

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We are at a period of global research when all this is now really just common sense.

There is NATIONAL world power and there is GLOBALIZED world power, they are both real and they are both dynamic, but it is the national sovereign system who will be deposed for globalized authority.

To make a long but clearly logical story short, GLOBALIZATION is what produces WORLD GOVERNMENT. Globalization is dynamic, not static, and its objective is forming the global administrative and super-corporate components of true world government. In fact they are already functioning, but the national sovereigns must be bankrupted into final alignment into globalized wealth and finance authority as per Daniel 11:42-43.

If we note as far as prophecies go, Daniel 11:42-43 is very very literal. GOLD is the "base plate of national sovereignty" as the true basis of their global wealth.


But nations no longer own GOLD, they "own" DEBT.


The "King North" 8th King globalist finance system is who owns that debt. Thus it is common sense who will OWN the national powers in say seven to fourteen years from first notable national financial true implosions, whether fast or slow, the 8th King globalized "master creditor" will OWN the world system formerly in national hands.

Thus in COMMON SENSE Daniel 11:27-45 "King South" is that [[NATIONAL]] BASED GOVERNMENT system globally deposed in Daniel 11:42-43 "Egypt", the original "King South" "capital" symbolic location. "King North" is the [[GLOBALIST]] final ascendant WORLD GOVERNMENT system, aka, 8th King.


1. National Power - The 7th King and "King South" are synonymous as NATIONAL power that must be deposed into GLOBALIZED world government. (Predominant "king" of Revelation 13 "wild beast");


2. Globalist Power - The 8th King and King North are synonymous as GLOBALIZED world government power. (Synonymous with the Revelation 17 "scarlet wildbeast")



Everyone knows this theme is plainly present in many areas of world and globalization research. The globalist pawned churches, including now "Jehovah's witnesses", through their controlling cleric systems, will NOT make any connections to prophecy to expose their world government master system in any greater detail than 1970 offered.

But as you can see it is all pretty basic, it is just common sense: WORLD GOVERNMENT will come, and it will trigger the arrival of the "King of kings", plain and simple. Now why won't the mainstream church leaders talk about this? Because they are "8th King" tools, they are part of the "Babylon the Great" "harlot" "8th King" servicing system. (Rev17:1-3, 15-18); That is why they won't say a peep in the mainstream organized religions.
edit on 3-10-2014 by 4444Winds because: (no reason given)
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posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 10:15 AM
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originally posted by: spy66


I have been spending some time Reading revelation 13,1 and revelation 17. And i am wondering. Have we been overlooking something when it comes to the description of the beast in revelation 13,1?

The beast in revelation 13,1 is describes like this:


1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.


Now read this verse from revelation 17,11


11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.


Read this verse from revelation 17,7


9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.


If i understand this correctly there is a eighth (8) head. And it is this beast that is observed and not the beast described in revelation 13,1.

Because. it is mentioned in verse 17,8 in revelation 17. By the angel?

Read this verse.


8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.


The reason the Author don't observe the eighth head is because of what the verse mentiones in the end of the last sentence:

the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.


Its like the head is not there but it is. Or am i wrong?

What are Your thoughts?


. One of the things I was taught when I was younger is the 7 heads represent the 7 world powers leading up to our current one. The eighth head was different meaning it is a world power, but not a government. Many attribute that to represent the united nations.





 
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