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Originally posted by jsobecky
The system of security might just work, might be beneficial, and might be a model that will be applied to other cities. Is that what upsets you, marg, that some good might come out of it?
:shk:
Originally posted by SomewhereinBetween
It is obvious that Bush and Blair are having to incorporate the very same tactics Hussein used to keep the masses subjugated and repressed, which makes them no better than teh tyrant himself. How anyone cannot possibly see that this style of liberation and freedom is no change, in fact is being made worse and therefore can still condone the war and continued occupation is a puzzle to me.
Originally posted by jsobecky
It seems that you are afraid that this may be a turning point in the country, where food and medicine can reach the people, where the kids can be kids, where the water and electricity can be turned back on.
Originally posted by AceOfBase
I'm sure the orders to do this came from the White House.
I doubt the soldiers themselves decided to do this.
Originally posted by AceOfBase
The people preventing food and medecine from being delivered to the people of Fallujah are the US forces. It was the US forces who cut the power and water and siezed the hospitals to prevent people from getting access to treatment for injuries caused by the bombing.
I'm sure the orders to do this came from the White House.
I doubt the soldiers themselves decided to do this.
And how do you see the car bombings and torture rooms used to torture Iraqis? A struggle for independence?
Originally posted by marg6043
Remember that the desolation and destruction of that country and their lack of security was brought to them by the same people that took their "horrible" leader in the name of "freedom"
I see as the desperation of one nation for Independence against a more powerful nation to subjugated the "conquered" population to a force democracy through control.
Originally posted by jsobecky
I notice that you referred to Hussein as "horrible", in quotations. This usually means that you are being sarcastic. Do you think Hussein was not horrible, but benevolent and loving toward his people?
Originally posted by jsobecky
This is outrageous. The US is the nation that is supplying food and medicine to the Iraqi people.
Show me one solid piece of evidence to back up your ridiculous claim.
TextUS orders Iraqi Red Crescent out of Fallujah
AFP: 12/5/2004
BAGHDAD, Dec 5 (AFP) - The Iraqi Red Crescent said Sunday that it had left Fallujah on US military orders after the aid agency was told the former insurgent stronghold was not safe.
"Multinational forces asked the IRC to withdraw from Fallujah for security reasons and until further notice," the organisation's spokeswoman Ferdus al-Ibadi told AFP.
There had been friction between the IRC and the US military as the agency was prevented from distributing aid throughout the city.
Originally posted by AceOfBase
Originally posted by jsobecky
This is outrageous. The US is the nation that is supplying food and medicine to the Iraqi people.
Show me one solid piece of evidence to back up your ridiculous claim.
The people preventing food and medecine from being delivered to the people of Fallujah are the US forces. It was the US forces who cut the power and water and siezed the hospitals to prevent people from getting access to treatment for injuries caused by the bombing.
as proof. What you conveniently forgot to mention was that the US was NOT preventing the medicine from reaching the people; instead, it was concerned about more civilian casualties. From your own source:
Here you go:
news.scotsman.com
Iraq�s Red Crescent group sent seven lorry-loads of food and medicine to the city, but US forces blocked the aid convoy at Fallujah�s main hospital and said it could not enter. The convoy turned back yesterday after three days of frustration.
Aid agencies were again stopped by US forces from reaching the combat area in the town amid growing concern about the scale of the civilian toll wrought by the military operation.
:
US commanders say they are working to deliver assistance to the city themselves, and urged any Iraqis needing aid to go to Fallujah�s main hospital on the western outskirts.