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Topic started on 2-12-2004 @ 12:09 AM by AceOfBase
I just watched a clip from NBC News that says some of the refugees who had to flee Fallujah because of the US offensive will be let back in. One thing that really caught my attention was the mention of retina scans on those persons allowed to return plus ID cards. They wont be allowed away from their homes or aid centers that haven't even been built yet and the people who break the rules may be subject to 'deadly force'. How long will it be before the US says they have to be 'chipped'?


2004-12-01 NBC: What's next for Fallujah? (streaming media)

Here's a partial transcript I typed up because I can't find a web link yet:

"On every block at least one building is completely damaged, many others are badly damaged.

So far the plan is for most of the city's 250,000 residents to return in stages. At first only a few thousand will be let in.
They will be fingerprinted, given a retina scan and then an ID card which will only allow them to travel around their homes or to nearby aid centers which are now being built.

The Marines will be authorized to use deadly force against those breaking the rules."



reply posted on 3-12-2004 @ 05:39 AM by AceOfBase
Looks like they won't be allowed to have cars and won't be able to congregate.
I'll bet they just love their new freedom over there in Iraq

2004-12-02 Rebuilding Fallujah, Iraq (NBC).asf (streaming media)

No link to the story, I typed this up myself from the video clip:

Engel: A new mission in Fallujah, the same Marines who fought last month to rid the city of insurgents, now rebuilding it. For 10 days in November Marines and soldiers attacked the city.
This week NBC news joined the Marines in Fallujah.
We found it eerie, deserted, the only sign of life, stray animals.
It smelled rotten with decomposing bodies and trash, broken sewers and dust.
Images of violence frozen in time.
A barber shop interrupted, a candy store ransacked.
There are streets in downtown Fallujah where every building has been condemned and must be torn down before people are allowed to return.
Some commanders estimate it will be six month before basic services are restored.
Today there is no power, water pipes are broken, this school flooded.
Marines say only 5,000 people remain in the city.
We met some taking refuge in a mosque.
Old Iraqi Man: "My family is gone. I stayed to protect my house, now my house is gone. Why should I stay now?" asked the man.
Engel: Already, the Marines have teams out surveying the damage. They brought these Iraqi engineers to salvage what they could at the main power station.
It's a priority with 250,000 people waiting to leave refugee camps and return to Fallujah.
When they do, Marines will pay them up to $2,500 for damaged property or deaths and they'll find new rules in the city.
Identity card checks, a curfew, no cars and no congregating.
Marine: "Those rules will be carried by every single male who receives an identification card. It is a Martial Law environment, there will be deadly force authorized for certain infractions."
Engel: An environment unlikely to sit well with already resentful refugees.
Iraqi Man: "How will we greet the Americans in Fallujah?" he asked. "With guns and Rockets"
Engel: November's offensive did root out Insurgents but in a place where emotions run high, the question tonight is will the refugees come back bitter or see their return as a new beginning?

Richard Engel, NBC News, Fallujah.


[edit on 3-12-2004 by AceOfBase]


reply posted on 5-12-2004 @ 01:56 PM by AceOfBase
The Boston Globe has a story on the new police state in Fallujah:

Boston.com
FALLUJAH, Iraq -- The US military is drawing up plans to keep insurgents from regaining control of this battle-scarred city, but returning residents may find that the measures make Fallujah look more like a police state than the democracy they have been promised.

Under the plans, troops would funnel Fallujans to so-called citizen processing centers on the outskirts of the city to compile a database of their identities through DNA testing and retina scans. Residents would receive badges displaying their home addresses that they must wear at all times. Buses would ferry them into the city, where cars, the deadliest tool of suicide bombers, would be banned...

...One idea that has stirred debate among Marine officers would require all men to work, for pay, in military-style battalions. Depending on their skills, they would be assigned jobs in construction, waterworks, or rubble-clearing platoons.


They are saying that they intend to make Fallujah a "model city".
Does this mean they want to place other cities in Iraq under these same rules?
Do they want all of Iraq to have this new 'freedom'?


[edit on 5-12-2004 by AceOfBase]


reply posted on 5-12-2004 @ 04:12 PM by jsobecky
Originally posted by AceOfBase
The Boston Globe has a story on the new police state in Fallujah:


Under the plans, troops would funnel Fallujans to so-called citizen processing centers on the outskirts of the city to compile a database of their identities through DNA testing and retina scans. Residents would receive badges displaying their home addresses that they must wear at all times. Buses would ferry them into the city, where cars, the deadliest tool of suicide bombers, would be banned...

...One idea that has stirred debate among Marine officers would require all men to work, for pay, in military-style battalions. Depending on their skills, they would be assigned jobs in construction, waterworks, or rubble-clearing platoons.


[edit on 5-12-2004 by AceOfBase]
I like the idea of buses instead of cars. Take one more vehicle of destruction away from the terrorists (no pun intended). Plus it could be the beginning of a model city with less air pollution and traffic congestion. I have to think that parents would welcome the opportunity for their children to go to school and play in relative safety, instead of being a target for car bombers.

And having the men work is also a good idea. It gives them a stock in their homeland, and less idle time on their hands to get into mischief.

And applying the same restrictions to other cities in Iraq might not be such a bad idea, either. Park all cars outside of town, and use shuttle buses, sort of like we do at the airports today.

These rules may sound tough but they are necessary to control the violence. Then we can get a start on rebuilding Iraq. Remember the old adage, "It's hard to remember that your objective is to drain the swamp when you're up to your a$$ in alligators."

The more I think about this idea, the more I like it.


EDIT Typos

[edit on 5-12-2004 by jsobecky]
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