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Quinnipiac Poll - July 2, 2014 - Obama Is First As Worst President Since WWII

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posted on Jul, 2 2014 @ 11:55 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
Perhaps one of the "worst" was Teddy Roosevelt.

He was the very first RINO and he started the "Progressive" Party !!

Many of his focused policies led right into the current Federal Reserve/IRS system.

More Democrats followed Roosevelt's thinking than Republicans of the time.

He was a true turncoat/banker idealist. Many ideals of the original Progressives were based on many Marx principals.

The First RINO Progressive

Uhhh . . . While he did start the Progressive Party later in his political life and certainly was considered a RINO, for his day . . . Progressive ideals weren't quite the same as they are today and Republicans weren't quite like the Republicans of today.

The only reason Teddy was even vice-president is because J.P. Morgan and other industrialists asked McKinley to bring him on as Sec. War (or some other cabinet position) due to his time as Governor of NY. TR was actively trying to break up the trusts and keep the corporations from having too much influence in government (something we all complain about today) by publicly outing their practices and the major players. Morgan, who bought two elections for McKinley (who would have lost both to Bryan otherwise), wanted TR to be stuck in some "do-nothing" appointment to keep him from "raising muck". McKinley didn't like TR either and didn't want him on the cabinet, but promoted him to VP, as even then it was a dead end photo op position.

TR didn't even stay in Washington during the first few months of his VP role because he thought his political career was over . . . he routinely was out West on hunting trips.

It's funny that today we all complain about special interest groups, corporatocracy, and politicians going to the highest bidder . . . . we complain that Washington "doesn't listen to the people" or "protect the little guy" . . . Agenda 21 and privatization of public lands . . . etc. etc. And, despite "founding" the Progressive Party . . . TR was actively fighting against ALL of the above, as well as promoting the ideals of every man serving his country's military to promote pride and community. His ideals would be exactly what we would want to see in the POTUS today . . . the incorruptible protector of the people.

NOW . . . his second-cousin FDR on the other hand . . . as corrupt as they come.
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posted on Jul, 2 2014 @ 11:57 PM
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When it come to Obama I think of this Wendy's commercial



In other words where is the guy that we saw run and speak of grandiose things in 07/08.
A nice big fat fluffy bun with no beef at all, it fools you, you think you will get satisfied by it, until closer examination.

And Americans are once again left politically hungry for real leadership.
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posted on Jul, 3 2014 @ 01:17 AM
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a reply to: solomons path

More about T.R. and how it could be obvious why he was "placed" in key roles and became President by "accident".

All the anti-trust cases brought forth by T.R. during his "Presidency" most likely yielded big profits for the "targets".

T.R. was the first Progressive President that was successfully bought off. He was the dawn of modern Lobbying.

The Progressives have been at this same agenda for over 100 years.

A good way to hide true goals is to cast the illusion that you are against those goals and then blame somebody else while you reap the profits.



Big business actually became stronger than ever during Theodore Roosevelt’s presidency, despite all his efforts to restrain corporations, trusts, and monopolies. Many of these efforts to regulate commerce either weakened industries or created monopolies that otherwise would not have existed. This reduced business competition and led to higher prices, lower quality, and diminished consumer choice. For the people, all of these did more harm than good.

The Progressive attempts to regulate big business ushered in the corporate/government ruling alliance that exists in America today, in which lobbyists influence the regulations that federal bureaucrats force the people to live by. Placing power into the hands of lobbyists and unelected bureaucrats has taken power away from state and local governments, which are more directly accountable to the people.

With Congress ultimately enacting most of his domestic agenda, Roosevelt also set the trend of presidents initiating and influencing legislation. This placed more power in the executive branch at the expense of the legislative and judicial branches of government. Successors have gradually built upon Roosevelt’s precedents, and all these trends continue today.


Teddy Roosevelt and Big Business




posted on Jul, 3 2014 @ 01:29 AM
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I personally think Clinton is extremely overrated. He didn't do anything special except gave us NAFTA which is why America's wealth is being extracted like a global socialism. He was held in check by Republicans so he didn't have bastards like Harry Reid to protect him like Obama. He also was at the right place at the right time with the housing boom, dot com boom, and telecom boom. I do have to give him somewhat credit from the housing boom when the subprime market was introduced which eventually ballooned and destroy the economy under Bush.



posted on Jul, 3 2014 @ 02:11 AM
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a reply to: neo96
You know, A poster brought up to me that Reagan's Presidency was 30 years ago why bring him up now when I mentioned President Reagan.

But, here are 24 of Obamas Scandals not including his Pied Piper illegal Gig his Pulling On Us.



1. IRS targets Obama’s enemies: The IRS targeted conservative and pro-Israel groups prior to the 2012 election. Questions are being raised about why this occurred, who ordered it, whether there was any White House involvement and whether there was an initial effort to hide who knew about the targeting and when.

2. Benghazi: This is actually three scandals in one:

The failure of administration to protect the Benghazi mission.
The changes made to the talking points in order to suggest the attack was motivated by an anti-Muslim video
The refusal of the White House to say what President Obama did the night of the attack
3. Watching the AP: The Justice Department performed a massive cull of Associated Press reporters’ phone records as part of a leak investigation.

4. Rosengate: The Justice Department suggested that Fox News reporter James Rosen is a criminal for reporting about classified information and subsequently monitored his phones and emails.

5. Potential Holder perjury I: Attorney General Eric Holder told Congress he had never been associated with “potential prosecution” of a journalist for perjury when in fact he signed the affidavit that termed Rosen a potential criminal.

6. The ATF “Fast and Furious” scheme: Allowed weapons from the U.S. to “walk” across the border into the hands of Mexican drug dealers. The ATF lost track of hundreds of firearms, many of which were used in crimes, including the December 2010 killing of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.

7. Potential Holder Perjury II: Holder told Congress in May 2011 that he had just recently heard about the Fast and Furious gun walking scheme when there is evidence he may have known much earlier.

8. Sebelius demands payment: HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius solicited donations from companies HHS might regulate. The money would be used to help her sign up uninsured Americans for ObamaCare.

9. The Pigford scandal: An Agriculture Department effort that started as an attempt to compensate black farmers who had been discriminated against by the agency but evolved into a gravy train delivering several billion dollars in cash to thousands of additional minority and female farmers who probably didn’t face discrimination.

10. GSA gone wild: The General Services Administration in 2010 held an $823,000 training conference in Las Vegas, featuring a clown and a mind readers. Resulted in the resignation of the GSA administrator.

11. Veterans Affairs in Disney World: The agency wasted more than $6 million on two conferences in Orlando. An assistant secretary was fired.

12. Sebelius violates the Hatch Act: A U.S. special counsel determined that Sebelius violated the Hatch Act when she made “extemporaneous partisan remarks” during a speech in her official capacity last year. During the remarks, Sebelius called for the election of the Democratic candidate for governor of North Carolina.

13. Solyndra: Republicans charged the Obama administration funded and promoted its poster boy for green energy despite warning signs the company was headed for bankruptcy. The administration also allegedly pressed Solyndra to delay layoff announcements until after the 2010 midterm elections.

14. AKA Lisa Jackson: Former EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson used the name “Richard Windsor” when corresponding by email with other government officials, drawing charges she was trying to evade scrutiny.

15. The New Black Panthers: The Justice Department was accused of using a racial double standard in failing to pursue a voter intimidation case against Black Panthers who appeared to be menacing voters at a polling place in 2008 in Philadelphia.

16. Waging war all by myself: Obama may have violated the Constitution and both the letter and the spirit of the War Powers Resolution by attacking Libya without Congressional approval.

17. Biden bullies the press: Vice President Biden’s office has repeatedly interfered with coverage, including forcing a reporter to wait in a closet, making a reporter delete photos, and editing pool reports.

18. AKPD not A-OK: The administration paid millions to the former firm of then-White House adviser David Axelrod, AKPD Message and Media, to promote passage of Obamacare. Some questioned whether the firm was hired to help pay Axelrod $2 million AKPD owed him.

19. Sestak, we’ll take care of you: Former White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel used Bill Clinton as an intermediary to probe whether former Rep. Joe Sestak (D-Pa.) would accept a prominent, unpaid White House advisory position in exchange for dropping out of the 2010 primary against former Sen. Arlen Specter (D-Pa.).

20. I’ll pass my own laws: Obama has repeatedly been accused of making end runs around Congress by deciding which laws to enforce, including the decision not to deport illegal immigrants who may have been allowed to stay in the United States had Congress passed the “Dream Act.”

21. The hacking of Sharyl Attkisson’s computer: It’s not clear who hacked the CBS reporter’s computer as she investigated the Benghazi scandal, but the Obama administration and its allies had both the motive and the means to do it.

22. An American Political Prisoner: The sudden decision to arrest Nakoula Basseley Nakoula on unrelated charges after protests in the Arab world over his anti-Muslim video is an extraordinarily suspicious coincidence. “We’re going to go out and we’re going to prosecute the person that made that video,” Hillary Clinton allegedly told the father of one of the ex-SEALs killed in Banghazi.

23. Get rid of inconvenient IGs: Corporation for National and Community Service Inspector General Gerald Walpin was fired in 2009 as he fought wasteful spending and investigated a friend of Obama’s, Sacramento Mayor and former NBA player Kevin Johnson. The White House says Walpin was incompetent.

24. Influence peddling: An investigation is underway of Alejandro Mayorkas, director of the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, who has been nominated by Obama for the number two post at the Department of Homeland Security. Mayorkas may have used his position to unfairly obtain U.S. visas for foreign investors in company run by Hillary Clinton’s brother, Anthony Rodman.

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2. Bush jr.
3. Bush sr.
4. Clinton
5. Carter
6. Nixon ( NUTZ ) I did some work in the agency under him, ( NUTZ )
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posted on Jul, 3 2014 @ 02:26 AM
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a reply to: FlyersFan

My Worst:

Wilson - For allowing the FED to be created.
FDR/Nixon - For destroying/abolishing the Gold Standard (both). Nixon for Vietnam.
Bushivus II - For poor planning of invading Kerplankistan and invading Iraq (WTF!!?)
LBJ - For being complicit in the assasination of JFK.
Washington/Adams/Jefferson - For not ending slavery when they could have.
Gerald Ford - For Pardoning Nixon and being a non factor.
Reagan - For trickle down economics (Reaganomics). Iran-Contra Affair.

In Between:

Pros: Andrew Jackson: For paying off the debt and for the abolition of the Electoral college and for implementing the Spoils system.
Cons: For trying to eradicate the Native Americans.


My Best:

Abraham Lincoln - Emancipation Proclamation.

JFK - Apollo Program.



posted on Jul, 3 2014 @ 02:39 AM
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a reply to: Kratos40

You do know that LBJ is the president that got us into Vietnam in 1964, Right?
JFK, sent 1000 military advisers in 1961.
But, LBJ was itching for a fight and got Congress to pass the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, which essentially gave ( the prick ) LBJ the power to use any degree of military force in Southeast Asia without having to ask for an official declaration of war.



posted on Jul, 3 2014 @ 03:12 AM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: solomons path

More about T.R. and how it could be obvious why he was "placed" in key roles and became President by "accident".

All the anti-trust cases brought forth by T.R. during his "Presidency" most likely yielded big profits for the "targets".

T.R. was the first Progressive President that was successfully bought off. He was the dawn of modern Lobbying.

The Progressives have been at this same agenda for over 100 years.

A good way to hide true goals is to cast the illusion that you are against those goals and then blame somebody else while you reap the profits.



Big business actually became stronger than ever during Theodore Roosevelt’s presidency, despite all his efforts to restrain corporations, trusts, and monopolies. Many of these efforts to regulate commerce either weakened industries or created monopolies that otherwise would not have existed. This reduced business competition and led to higher prices, lower quality, and diminished consumer choice. For the people, all of these did more harm than good.

The Progressive attempts to regulate big business ushered in the corporate/government ruling alliance that exists in America today, in which lobbyists influence the regulations that federal bureaucrats force the people to live by. Placing power into the hands of lobbyists and unelected bureaucrats has taken power away from state and local governments, which are more directly accountable to the people.

With Congress ultimately enacting most of his domestic agenda, Roosevelt also set the trend of presidents initiating and influencing legislation. This placed more power in the executive branch at the expense of the legislative and judicial branches of government. Successors have gradually built upon Roosevelt’s precedents, and all these trends continue today.


Teddy Roosevelt and Big Business







I'm not necessarily a fan of TR, but do you have anything to back up your assertion that "TR was the first progressive president to be bought off"? He was technically the first progressive president. And, as a consequence of his actions against the industrialists, they did use lobbyists to bribe politicians to work in their favor (although let's be honest . . . this was already happening). But, nothing on Coffey's site says TR was bought off . . . In fact, his and your arguments are a logical fallacy of Affirming the Consequent. "IF TR was bought off than his policies would benefit the corporations . . . The corporations benefited, therefore TR was bought off (or responsible for their benefit). It simply reads like the typical blaming of progressives for whatever ills the nation. I wouldn't doubt that TR was in the pocket of someone, since he came from one of the oldest families in New York, but he was not liked by "big business" or the financial backers (big banking families) of the time.

Also . . . I find it hard to believe that Roosevelt "ushered in the era of lobbyists" when it is well documented that his predecessor (a non-progressive Republican) was a shill for the industrialists of the time. J.P. Morgan paid exuberant amounts to finance his campaigns and manipulated the media in his favor. Morgan also solicited (*cough* lobbied) others like Carnegie and Rockefeller to "buy off the presidency". Bryan even made speeches to supporters admitting that the will of the people could not win against the might of corporate money . . . see his "Cross of Gold" speech. And, I think William Jennings Bryan was a religious nutbag and American Christianity's version of a socialist (populist party) . . . so, that isn't a support of him.

I believe in individualism, so I'm no progressive . . . However, let's not act like corruption, lobbying, etc. started with the Progressives to fuel your conservative rallying against them. The facts don't match the narrative that Coffey wants to promote. Regardless of the outcomes of TR's actions . . . or what he called the party he created . . . his "ideals" actually were in-line with what we would want to see in our politicians today. It should also be said that he was against social welfare and just thought everyone should "get a fair shot" . . . Which is far from how Coffey portrays him. It's also convenient that Coffey sets the argument from the start in his "about" section . . . admitting that most of his info "won't be found in mainstream history books because it is written from the founders' perspective of less government and more freedom". And as you say:


A good way to hide true goals is to cast the illusion that you are against those goals and then blame somebody else while you reap the profits.


Yet . . . Coffey's blog says nothing of McKinley (a Republican) and the corporate sham that was his first and very short lived second term or the absolute corruption that bought him the presidency. Outside of the details of his assassination and some mentions from his time as Senator and his Tariff Act, there is no narrative for this overly corrupt chapter in our history. Both, your thoughts on TR and all of Coffey's blog posts are in exercise in Special Pleading. Gladly pointing out the negatives (labeling progressive, corporations thrived, wanted the government to get involved with social issues), but conveniently leaving out the fact that the exact same things happen under the Republicans (or also with Coffey "the defenders of the South").
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posted on Jul, 3 2014 @ 03:55 AM
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a reply to: solomons path

Ummm . . . nevermind.

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posted on Jul, 3 2014 @ 04:12 AM
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NEWS FLASH!!!

Public opinion poll amongst FOX News Viewers: Obama worst human being in history of universe past or future.

A recent poll has concluded that amongst regular FOX News Viewers, Obama ranks number 1 as worst human in the universe taking the top 5 places simultaneously. number 6 is Hitler, and 7 is Hillary Clinton, rounding out the top ten is Obama once again followed by Stalin and Pol Pot.
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posted on Jul, 3 2014 @ 04:23 AM
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Nice attempt at deflection. Nowhere in the poll does it gauge Fox News watchers, nor does the poll target that demographic.



posted on Jul, 3 2014 @ 04:49 AM
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originally posted by: Bilk22
Carter probably didn't make the "worst" list because he's so forgettable lol I'd put him right under Obama with Johnson following.


Carter catches a far worse rap than he deserves. His presidency was during a terrible slump in the US economy, but the reason he was not re-elected was almost entirely American perception that Canadians had saved the Iran hostage crisis, when in reality it was the Carter administration's direct efforts through the CIA that successfully got our people out. Reagan even fought against some of carters efforts in order to kill Carter's re-election chances. He was a forward-thinking humanitarian and he pursued a sustainable energy policy for the US, pushed for strategic arms limitations and wanted to reduce our dependency on foreign anything.

He's a phenomenally good-hearted person, probably more-so than any president since WW2. I remember him helping build local homes hands-on with habitat-for-humanity when I was a child.

Eisenhower benefited greatly from the post-war economic boom and his reputation as a hero. As a person however, he was a monster. (read about Rhineland meadows and what he did to Patton).

No left or right, red-team/blue-team bull#te here, just my honest surmisal of these historic leaders.

Real history is never as cut & dried as we want it to be.
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posted on Jul, 3 2014 @ 08:53 AM
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Another president who gets a bad rap is Nixon. Someone above blamed Vietnam on him... LOL He was the president who got us OUT OF VIETNAM. Johnson was the psychopath who got us involved and then sprayed half of SE Asia with dioxin which is still killing and maiming children by the thousands.

Here's LBJ's most lasting contribution to the world:


Nice eh? He also likely had a hand in JFK's death.

Nixon got caught doing the same crap they all do, but at least he was willing to do whatever it took to stop Johnson. Nixon loved this country. Everyone should read about Nixon's change of attitude toward Israel during his presidency, very interesting stuff.

I would actually go as far as to say that Lyndon Baines Johnson was probably the worst president the US has ever had.

No surprise then that HuffingtonPost are hailing him and making comparisons to Obama:
www.huffingtonpost.com...

LOL

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posted on Jul, 3 2014 @ 10:01 AM
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a reply to: neo96
*eyeroll*
Calling the underclass animals is no way to argue for cutting people's benefits, it just makes you look like a classist.

a reply to: 8675309jenny

keep in mind; Johnson was also one of the big advocates for the apollo-program/NASA; and helped to get Civil-Rights Legislation through the senate, along with seeking to give poorer families financial relief through his "great society".

Now keep in mind, this was during a tense period of the cold-war, Johnson was passing legislation that his opponents could use to label him "soft on Communism" or "pinko commie", thus politically; Johnson was made to support the vietnam war.



posted on Jul, 3 2014 @ 06:01 PM
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and helped to get Civil-Rights Legislation through the senate, along with seeking to give poorer families financial relief through his "great society".



Now keep in mind, this was during a tense period of the cold-war, Johnson was passing legislation that his opponents could use to label him "soft on Communism" or "pinko commie", thus politically; Johnson was made to support the vietnam war.

Where, OH, Where do you get your Information? That's All B S !!
OP and MODS, I have no desire to derail this thread. But for Gods Sake!
Open your mind when you view this link.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
You want to know how the Gulf of Tonkin in Vietnam was a staged LIE, just read for yourself or listen to the tapes at this link.
Gulf of Tonkin

You're right about one thing though, LBJ did support the Space program.
I'd have to say, he was very, very Evil, he and Hoover and Mac Namara had their hands in all the Dirt, to include JFK.

But, I don't want to derail the thread.

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posted on Jul, 3 2014 @ 08:52 PM
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originally posted by: NonsensicalUserName

keep in mind; Johnson was also one of the big advocates for the apollo-program/NASA; and helped to get Civil-Rights Legislation through the senate, along with seeking to give poorer families financial relief through his "great society".


Johnson simply took Kennedy's "New Frontier" ideas and re-labeled it "great society". He didn't support the war to avoid being labeled a commie, it was the other way around. War-mongering LBJ was the military-industrial complex's man, and passed the 'commie' stuff to keep the plebs from getting too unruly.



posted on Jul, 4 2014 @ 01:36 PM
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a reply to: guohua

eh; its hyperbole to call presidents evil, even George w. Bush or Ronald Reagan weren't evil, just somewhat incompetent or ignorant.

It is said that Only Nixon could have gone to china, you could go one step further and say that only nixon could have ended the Vietnam War.


a reply to: 8675309jenny

Kennedy couldn't have gotten anything really passed when he was alive, he was a northern-liberal; an "outsider" or "other" to many southern democrats. Johnson was from texas, and had a lot more political experience, though it could be said he used kennedy's death to get controversial legislation like the Civil Rights Act passed.
prezi.com...
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posted on Jul, 5 2014 @ 04:35 PM
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a reply to: FlyersFan

On a sample of 1446 voters? I think this is more about grabbing headlines to help the next grant application without too much scrutiny, particularly the curious racial demographic of the survey. On one hand, it's shoehorned into an almost exact racial fit for euro- and Afro-Americans but underrepresents Hispanics by 50%. The background on the phone methods should also raise a flag for anyone who's done Statistics 101.
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posted on Jul, 6 2014 @ 10:10 AM
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a reply to: Chrisfishenstein

You might want to double check where Bush went on 'vacation'. You will find that most of his 'vacation' were to his ranch. With was set up like a de facto White House. See how different his schedule was when he was there vs in DC



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