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Heritage Foundation Panelist on Radical Islam.. She really makes some historical points !

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posted on Jul, 2 2014 @ 03:00 PM
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a reply to: ArtemisE

From my vantage point . . .

lots of folks hereon have a number of courses to go before they earn their PhD in knowledge about hypocrisy.

. . . in the words of the famous humorist . . . Bill Cosby:

"Noah, how long can you tread water?"


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posted on Jul, 2 2014 @ 03:10 PM
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originally posted by: BO XIAN
a reply to: Deny Arrogance

Does that mean you cheer DHS labeling such as terrorists?

Interesting.

How the screw turns.


Do you have a link to an official DHS document that labels all christian fundamentalists as terrorists?



posted on Jul, 2 2014 @ 03:14 PM
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originally posted by: seabhac-rua
For anybody who thinks the percentage the lady quotes in the OP's video is exaggerated:






This hardly equals the percentage that the warmonger was talking about. There are around 1.6 billion Muslims in the world do you think this room meets that percentage she was making up?



posted on Jul, 2 2014 @ 03:15 PM
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a reply to: buster2010

So you, unlike the orator in the video, would ascertain that this room is full of radicals and extremists, and not ordinary Muslims?

Well you seem to believe yourself more of an expert on Islamic affairs than the people on the podium, are you a theologian, and Islamic scholar perchance?



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posted on Jul, 2 2014 @ 03:21 PM
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Anti-Islamic rhetoric is getting old in this forum.

Watch this video:




posted on Jul, 2 2014 @ 03:23 PM
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originally posted by: BO XIAN
However, it is also one of the few remaining larger, older think tanks standing up for our freedoms and for the Constitution.

Try passing that lie off to someone that will actually believe it. The Heritage Foundation are the ones who dreamed up Obamacare which many of the right wingers here screams it's against the Constitution. They push for the government to deny gays the right to marriage. How can they do things like this and stand for the Constitution.



posted on Jul, 2 2014 @ 03:30 PM
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a reply to: mekhanics

Are you saying I'm not allowed to have a problem with Islamic ideology, or any other religious ideology for that matter?

I've watched that Oxford debate, there are more parts than just the one you posted, both sides make valid arguments as far as I'm concerned. The thing that interested me was how the majority of the crowd seem to back the pro-Muslim debaters, whilst booing and jeering the other speakers, you just can't say anything bad about Islam these days can you? I can critisize any religion I like(and I do) and nobody will bat an eyelid, unless of course that religion is Islam.



posted on Jul, 2 2014 @ 03:32 PM
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originally posted by: seabhac-rua
a reply to: buster2010

So you, unlike the orator in the video, would ascertain that this room is full of radicals and extremists, and not ordinary Muslims?

Well you seem to believe yourself more of an expert on Islamic affairs than the people on the podium, are you a theologian, and Islamic scholar perchance?



Let me remind you what you said.



For anybody who thinks the percentage the lady quotes in the OP's video is exaggerated:

I said to you do you think this makes up the percentage that she said in the op? There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world this little roomful is nowhere near that amount. To watch the video you posted and to act like it proves what she said is true is ridiculous. Also you never mention that the guy is only talking about Sunni and never mentions Shia. How can he be talking about all of Islam if he only talks about one group?



posted on Jul, 2 2014 @ 03:32 PM
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a reply to: seabhac-rua

Lol you called me a kid, great come back, could you plz post proof that theres 100 of millions of muslim radicals, i know you cant but should be funny to see you try.



posted on Jul, 2 2014 @ 03:33 PM
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originally posted by: seabhac-rua
a reply to: mekhanics

Are you saying I'm not allowed to have a problem with Islamic ideology, or any other religious ideology for that matter?

I've watched that Oxford debate, there are more parts than just the one you posted, both sides make valid arguments as far as I'm concerned. The thing that interested me was how the majority of the crowd seem to back the pro-Muslim debaters, whilst booing and jeering the other speakers, you just can't say anything bad about Islam these days can you? I can critisize any religion I like(and I do) and nobody will bat an eyelid, unless of course that religion is Islam.



You just can't criticize one mans fairy tales while spouting your own. There's a difference. I think they are all nuts and in too many cases to count it was dangerous.
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posted on Jul, 2 2014 @ 03:40 PM
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a reply to: buster2010
Again, are you contending that all the men in that room are radicals?

I never said the video 'proves' anything. It is what it is, and like it or not it shows that the majority of attendees at the conference hold extreme views.

Why don't you contact the speaker in the video and tell him he is wrong.



posted on Jul, 2 2014 @ 03:43 PM
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originally posted by: ArtemisE

You just can't criticize one mans fairy tales while spouting your own.


What fairy tales am I spouting?
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posted on Jul, 2 2014 @ 03:47 PM
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a reply to: dukeofjive696969

I never said there were "100 of millions of muslim radicals".

I posted a video showing the majority of attendees at a Muslim conference supporting what I consider to be extreme views. To me this supports the contention that extremism in the Muslim world is far more prevalent than Islamic apologists will have you know. Plain and simple.

You type things like "Lol" and "plz" so forgive for assuming that you are a child just because you communicate like one.


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posted on Jul, 2 2014 @ 03:50 PM
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a reply to: 727Sky

Is radical Islam any more dangerous than radical Christianity?



posted on Jul, 2 2014 @ 03:52 PM
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a reply to: 727Sky

I've never heard a quote of 15% to 25% of all Muslims being Radical........That seems Wayyyyyy to high to me. Not that Radical Islam isn't a problem, I just don't think it's that big of percentage of all Muslims.



posted on Jul, 2 2014 @ 03:56 PM
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originally posted by: TownCryer
a reply to: 727Sky

Is radical Islam any more dangerous than radical Christianity?


In Modern times, I'd have to say Radical Islam wins that horrible race as to who is more dangerous by an easy Mile. Hell, they are killing fellow Muslims right now and eating their organs in some cases.......that beats the pants off anything Radical Christians have done lately.



posted on Jul, 2 2014 @ 04:06 PM
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Radical Islam wins that horrible race


Islam is not a race.




they are killing fellow Muslims right now and eating their organs in some cases


That is not Islam. Islam according to Qur'an, forbids killing in wrongful manner.




“ … If anyone slew a person unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land it would be as if he slew the whole humanity: and if anyone saved a life it would be as if he saved the life of the whole humanity.” (Al-Qur'an 5:32)



posted on Jul, 2 2014 @ 04:11 PM
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originally posted by: mekhanics
a reply to: pavil




Radical Islam wins that horrible race


Islam is not a race.




they are killing fellow Muslims right now and eating their organs in some cases


That is not Islam. Islam according to Qur'an, forbids killing in wrongful manner.




“ … If anyone slew a person unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land it would be as if he slew the whole humanity: and if anyone saved a life it would be as if he saved the life of the whole humanity.” (Al-Qur'an 5:32)







That's a decently profound quote. To bad it has a lot of garbage as well....remarkably similar to another book from antiquity....hmmm.



posted on Jul, 2 2014 @ 04:13 PM
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originally posted by: mekhanics
a reply to: pavil


That is not Islam. Islam according to Qur'an, forbids killing in wrongful manner.



That depends entirely upon which Imam you ask.

The fact remains that in the name of their religion Muslims are slaughtering each other, and non-Muslims, right now.



posted on Jul, 2 2014 @ 04:14 PM
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a reply to: Deny Arrogance

Where did I use "all?"

Though the DHS stuff is frightfully close. It's posted on ATS somewhere, several times, IIRC. I don't have the link handy.




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