posted on Jul, 2 2014 @ 01:55 AM
Ok I feel its time for me to speak up on this issue that has been thrust into the forefront by the Hobby Lobby ruling.
It is time to strip away all the talking points, emotion, religious, points and go back to the cold, hard facts. As unpopular as they may be so
The first place to start is a history lesson.
If one looks into the history of heath insurance one finds that in the private sector (to which this whole debate of employer funded healthcare falls)
that it did not start with the unions, government mandates, or even employer charity.
It started out as an economic necessity or put in simpler terms THE EMPLOYER WANTED TO DO IT FOR A REASON.
It started in world war two american manufacturing.
In world war two there was an extreme shortage of manpower to work in war production.
So to entice workers to come work for XX company they started BENEFITS.
These were such things as in house food services, bonuses, employee clubs, and HEATHCARE.
Now not saying there MAY have been an employer that had MAYBE one of these benefits. But as a whole they were unheard of.
Even the unions did not have an agenda of healthcare. They concentrated on wages and safe working conditions.
Now this history I did not know at first until I read the time life series WORLD WAR TWO in the HOMEFRONT book.
Now that we see the history of where it started, one must now face the cold and unpleasant truths than now follow with the LOGICAL looking at this
Versions of this may appear in other threads but let me list them (In no particular order of importance) in one list with minimal comment.
1. Heath insurance is a BENEFIT.
2. An individual can CHOOSE to work for a company given their benefit package (including or not including healthcare).
3. An employee can CHOOSE TO QUIT over the benefits they don't like.
4. The company can choose NOT TO PROVIDE a particular healthcare plan or choose none at all since ITS THERE MONEY NOT YOURS.
5. The companies reason for not providing a particular plan or benefit (ex morning after pill) is in reality NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS AND IRRELIVANT.
They can choose it for religious, monetary, or no reason at all. JUST AS YOU CAN CHOOSE TO QUIT for any reason you choose.
6. A group of employee's can unionize and negotiate for healthcare as a benefit. But note in this case it is a MUTUAL DECISION.
The next two I think are MAJOR FACTS.
7. There is no constitutional amendment that REQUIRES AN EMPLOYER TO PROVIDE YOU WITH ANY HEALTHCARE.
If there is such an amendment that SAYS THIS SPECIFICALLY then point it out.
8. Before this employers routinely had policies that discounted some medical proceedures and/or drugs.
I personally have worked for 2 companies that did not provide organ transplant insurance, two that did not provide any birth control, and all that had
something or limits that DIDN'T CARE WHAT I THOUGHT I SHOULD HAVE.
And now the biggest point that those who support obamacare don't like because it torpedo's one of their screaming points.
9. Any item the employer does not want to cover or provide no coverage of all ARE STILL LEGAL PROCEDURES AND DRUGS. NO ONE IS DENYING ANYTHING OR
MAKING IT ILLEGAL FOR (MOST QUOTED EXAMPLE) RELIGIOUS REASONS.
The COLD, HARD, UNDENIABLE TRUTH is THEY ARE NOT GOING TO PAY FOR IT FOR YOU.
Its STILL LEGAL, its STILL BETWEEN YOUR DOCTOR AND YOU, and YOU CAN STILL GET IT.
So lets recap the cold truths.
You (the person) can choose to find a better job that pays for what healthcare you want.
You can unionize and try to get a contract with heath insurance in it.
You can try to change the constitution for mandatory healthcare.
Those procedures and drugs are STILL LEGAL.
You can PAY FOR IT YOURSELF.
You can (if you can get enough people to do this) as a group refuse jobs with XX employers until its in their benefit for hiring to add heathcare
Or even follow the lesson (minus the war, lets not get stupid) create an economic climate that has so much work that the companies will provide things
that will entice workers to come (and stay) with them. This would not only be heathcare but increased wages and better working conditions to boot.
The last thought I will leave you with is the outright hypocrisy I see with the supporters of obamacare and "cover everything if needed or not"
heathcare by employers.
You all scream "keep religion out of it", "your religion is denying my heathcare rights" , "you are letting religion hurt women", ect.
But by demanding what YOU THINK IS MORAL OR RIGHT is using a personal faith, opinion, or (dare I say it) religious type argument(s) for what you want
So how again are your arguments any better or be different that hobby lobby?