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originally posted by: MOMof3
After thinking about it for a while, I like the Hobby Lobby decision by the Court. I believe it is one more push toward single payer/medicare for all system. Health care is a right, rich or poor. We have the right to pursue happiness. Excluding millions of people and children from going to a doctor because of cash, is inhumane.
originally posted by: Grimmley
Very well said mate. I am going to get flamed for this, however, health insurance is NOT a right, the laws on the books already state that you cannot be denied emergency medical care anywhere (you still have to pay for it, just like any other service). However just because one is lazy (yes and I do say lazy because that is what it is) to get a better job or education to get a better job, heck even work 4 jobs at a time to pay for what they need (and yes I have done that, it is not fun but doable) but it is NOT my responsibility, the USG or your employers responsibility but YOURS. Also for the record, one reason for healthcare costs to be off the charts expensive is, when someone does not pay, they recoup from those that can, and it drives the cost even higher. If you do not want to pay for healthcare insurance, then by all means do not get any, but do not expect anyone else to pay it for you as well.. YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO IT.
originally posted by: WeRpeons
a reply to: scrounger
First of all, access to health care is a basic human right. It's simply inhumane to allow someone to die or suffer because they don't have money. Should it be the responsibility of employers to provide health care benefits? Absolutely not, the responsibility lies with the entire population and it's government.
We pay taxes to repair and build infrastructure, pension plans, a military, and government programs. None of these are as important as providing health care to people. You can complain all you want about government sponsored health care, and give the excuse that government can't run anything right, but when it comes down to it, having private insurance companies run healthcare when they're in the business to make a profit is like having the fox guarding the hen house. Insurance companies are literally controlling and making decisions on how doctors can treat a patient. The last thing I want is a corporate entity deciding what treatment they will allow or cover for me or my kids. Ask any doctor in the U.S. and they will tell you how insurance companies control their treatment of a patient, and the ridiculous guidelines they have to follow on a day by day basis.
It's the politicians and government as a whole who have no public oversight to make sure taxes and government programs are ran efficiently and are benefiting the public. Social Security has been a life savor for many until politicians decided to include it in the general fund and robbed from it.
There are critical resources needed everyday by the public which should be controlled by a non-profit entity-government. That is Health care, energy, infrastructure and homeland defense. Everything else should be provided by the private sector.
We really need to have a national review of government's role in society. The purpose of our Government should be to provide critical everyday life services for it's citizens. If the government can dictate and draft any citizen into defending and sacrificing their life for their country, you better believe they have the responsibility to provide for the health and care of every citizen.
originally posted by: MyHappyDogShiner
To provide for the general welfare seems to be leaning toward guaranteeing we have the option to pursue happiness, doesn't it?.
I am not talking about welfare or assistance either, I'm talking about trying to assure that it is even it possible for people to get what they need so long as they are willing or able to go out and get it, it's about preserving the option.
Voting won't change anything, the corporations that dole out your happiness are not elected, they are godlike and immortal, they are only accountable to a point.
originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: beezzer
When private enterprises or corporations fail to provide needed services, it is the responsibility for us to step in.