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originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: Ploutonas
Reported him for what? Ive read his replies to you. he hasnt brokenTnC far as i have seen. all he has done is call you out on a few things.
ALso bombing villages(IF THEY ARE FULL OF ENEMIES in official war and NOT FULL OF CIVILIANS) is not a war crime.
Phosphorous marking rounds are not listed as chemical weapons useage either if used on military targets and not deliberatly shot at civilians.
If A school is taken over by enemy troops and no civilians in them that too is not a war crime.
This Memorandum on the “advisable course of action” automatically means that the peace plan confirmed by Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko is slated to fail.
The document provides three stages for the conduct of a military operation in eastern Ukraine.
The first stage implies total isolation of the region considering that all local citizens are terrorists or sympathizers.
The Region should be encircled with troops and sealed off entirely from any flow of goods and persons. Broadcasting services, Internet connection, telephone and mobile communications in the region shall be shut down.
The second stage is named Mop-up.
Ground assaults shall be preceded by air strikes against the strategic facilities. The use of non-conventional arms is allowed.
The document also provides for internment camps outside the cleared settlements. People featuring traces of combat engagement shall be tried in court for terrorism.
During the third stage Back to Normal power supplies and communications shall be restored. The borders shall be strengthened to avoid possible provocations. All the refugees should be checked for possible support for separatists in internment camps.
Special focus shall be made on information security. All foreign media shall be blocked there.
Wonderful quote, EXCEPT HE DIDN'T SAY THAT.
You clearly have no respect for the victims of what is clearly collective punishment against a population that Kiev's own prime minister referred to as "evil subhumans who need to be eliminated".
"They lost their lives because they defended men and women, children and the elderly who found themselves in a situation facing a threat to be killed by invaders and sponsored by subhumans," he said. "First, we will commemorate the heroes by wiping out those who killed them and then by cleaning our land from the evil," Yatsenyuk's message posted on the website of the Ukrainian Embassy in the USA said.
Even if the leaked plan of ‘handling’ Ukrainian crisis was not produced by the RAND corporation, events on the ground very much resemble the shocking points of the memo and the “guidelines for genocide” exported by the US, Don Debar from CPR News told RT.
A memorandum, recently leaked to online media, suggested surrounding eastern Ukrainian cities and placing citizens in internment camps. The document bears a logo of RAND corporation think-tank, but the company denies producing such a report.
While the authenticity of the document could not be independently verified . . .
Funny, I have never denied that people are being killed.
It is quite pathetic for you to claim that first hand evidence of bombed villages and civilians reduced to hamburger is propaganda because the Russians (and the DPR and the LPR and NGOs) are documenting it.
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originally posted by: Ploutonas
using chemicals is a crime of war... Bombarding villages, schools and hospitals is crime war also. Where is the mistake with it?
I wonder what the motive is?
originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: cosmonova
RT and Global research?
Have any credible sources that have not been caught manipulating information?
So has any of the Russian media actually go and talk to Ukraine soldiers about what is happening...No.
An hour before he was kidnapped by pro-Russia forces, Simon Ostrovsky interviewed two Russian Cossacks in Kramatorsk. One man showed Simon his Russian passport, which was the first confirmation VICE has seen of Russians working with the separatists in eastern Ukraine.
Also know that Simon Otrovsky only embedded with them after he was kidnapped by pro Russian separatists, and who could blame him as nobody wants to go thru the terror of a kidnapping
Hi tsurfer2000h, I am not sure if you are aware but Ukraine has denied access to the Russian media. The ones that do go in go in without passports and hide their identity.
Also, Russian and other journalist have also been detained and some even killed, yes?
Russian Cossack volunteers and they admit it, it does not give proof that Russian military is in Ukraine by the Kremlin's orders.
Can we say the same for the Russian journalists, those that were threatened? It is still biased. You are not able to get me to believe that this is unbiased reporting. Because its not.
originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: stanislas
Hi tsurfer2000h, I am not sure if you are aware but Ukraine has denied access to the Russian media. The ones that do go in go in without passports and hide their identity.
Also, Russian and other journalist have also been detained and some even killed, yes?
Actually it wouldn't matter as all Russian media is going to say whatever the government tells them to say, so you wouldn't see the reports anyway.
Yes they have at the hands of pro Russian separatists.
Russian Cossack volunteers and they admit it, it does not give proof that Russian military is in Ukraine by the Kremlin's orders.
Do you actually think they would tell you yes Russia sent us here?
Can we say the same for the Russian journalists, those that were threatened? It is still biased. You are not able to get me to believe that this is unbiased reporting. Because its not.
But Russian media is?
How is it biased, as it gives you both sides of the story something Russian media will not give you.
Will you shut up about the Russian media? You have zero proof of your claims, it's mostly all slander that's used to derail real discussion, and it's not just you doing it either.
"Oh, ethnic cleansing in Ukraine? It's all Russian propaganda because Russia is the enemy and their media has an agenda".
Best of all is that you people troll and taunt us, demanding we post evidence of facts that are well known.
Yet it's hilarious that the last time I posted a video on Ukraine that happened to show a corpse, somebody reported my post and I was threatened by staff that I would be banned if I kept posting videos featuring any kind of violence or gore.
I would love to show all kinds of videos. There's one just released today showing national guard soldiers executing a police officer on the side of a street. But I am not allowed to link to it in any way here.
originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: stanislas
Hi there tsurfer2000h, how can you say that these video's are unbiased when the journalist are embedded with the Ukrainian army?
So has any of the Russian media actually go and talk to Ukraine soldiers about what is happening...No.
But VICE has done that...
An hour before he was kidnapped by pro-Russia forces, Simon Ostrovsky interviewed two Russian Cossacks in Kramatorsk. One man showed Simon his Russian passport, which was the first confirmation VICE has seen of Russians working with the separatists in eastern Ukraine.
www.vice.com...
Also know that Simon Otrovsky only embedded with them after he was kidnapped by pro Russian separatists, and who could blame him as nobody wants to go thru the terror of a kidnapping.
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