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Is ISIL really Sunni?

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posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 04:23 PM

Headlines read: “Sunni Islamist Militants Seize Mosul.” “Sunni militants capture northern Iraqi town.” “Iraq Army Tries to Roll Back Sunni Militants’ Advance.” The corporate media casts the fighting in Iraq as a Sunni vs. Shia conflict. The Sunni side, according to these reports, is led by ISIL – a group that was expelled from al-Qaeda for being too extreme. But is ISIL really Sunni?

Many experts say “no.” Some question whether ISIL has a right to call itself an Islamic group at all. In an interview with Truth Jihad Radio, Islamic scholar Dr. John Andrew Morrow (Ilyas Abd al-‘Alim Islam) questioned ISIL’s Islamic credentials: “A lot of so-called jihad (such as ISIL’s) is not rooted in Islam. Especially if you look at who’s funding it, who’s supporting it, who’s behind it. Western powers have a long history of using jihadists and Islamists to further their own imperial ambitions. In terms of the foot-soldiers, they may think they are fighting for Islam. But if you look closer, you find they’re furthering the cause of the enemy.”Text

Dr. Morrow pointed out that much of ISIL’s behavior is patently un-Islamic. He said that the ISIL terrorists love to film themselves committing war crimes that are forbidden by Islam: “They are very proud to commit atrocities. They film it. They upload it to the internet. They have their own websites.” Dr. Morrow commented on the notorious video showing a Takfiri terrorist eating a dead soldier’s liver: “This is what Hind (an enemy of the Muslims) did. You’re not following the sahaba, you’re not following the Prophet. You’re following the polytheists who were fighting the Prophet when you start cannibalizing corpses. And there was another video of a poor Muslim sister who was strangled to death. I mean, who goes around strangling women to cries of Allahu akbar?”

Continuing the habit of vaunting their un-Islamic atrocities, ISIL terrorists recently posted internet videos showing themselves murdering 1,700 captured Iraqi army soldiers. They have also reportedly killed dozens of Sunni imams who refuse to swear allegiance to ISIL. And they are killing Shia Muslims indiscriminately. If these terrorists are Sunni Muslims, why are they systematically violating the tenets of Sunni Islam? In fact, ISIL appears to be far outside of Sunni Islam. The kind of “Islam” espoused by the ISIL Takfiris is an extreme version of the Salafi-Wahhabi school of thought. These people reject the five major Islamic madhhabs (schools of thought) including the four Sunni ones. If you reject all four Sunni madhhabs, how can you call yourself Sunni?

In fact, the extreme Salafi-Wahhabis, including the ultra-extreme ISIL, have broken with mainstream Islam as it has existed for fourteen centuries. By jettisoning the established Islamic madhhabs, and stepping outside of Islam as it has always been understood, they have entered a very dangerous territory in which they feel they can just make up the rules as they go along. So they make up such rules as: “It is okay to rape Christian and Shia women. It is okay to eat the internal organs of dead enemies. It is okay to marry ‘jihad brides’ for sex and divorce them after 30 minutes. It is okay to crucify Christian holy men. It is okay to strangle women to death. It is okay to mass-murder civilians. It is okay to mass-execute prisoners of war.” No Sunni in history would recognize this as Sunni Islam.Text

Zaid Hamid, a Sunni Muslim defense analyst from Pakistan, says ISIS and related terrorist groups are not Sunnis, but Kharajite heretics serving an imperial anti-Islamic agenda. (The Kharajites were an ultra-radical group that rejected early versions of both Sunni and Shia Islam and stepped outside of the Islamic community – hence their name, which means “those who step outside.”) Hamid argues that the ultra-radical groups destabilizing Pakistan, Syria and Iraq have indeed stepped outside of Islam, and are making war on Islam and Muslims on behalf of Zionism and imperialism. But isn’t it true that many Sunni Muslims in Iraq support ISIL?

Yes and no. It is true that some ordinary Iraqis from Sunni backgrounds have joined ISIL’s insurrection in Iraq. But these are mainly pro-Saddam revanchists, not religiously-oriented Sunni Muslims. Saddam Hussein, of course, was a radical secularist whose idols were Stalin and Hitler. Saddam’s Ba’ath party was anti-religious and pro-secularist; Saddam’s hatred of the Islamic Awakening was so extreme that he launched a war on the Ayatollah Khomeini’s new Islamic Republic in hopes of preventing the rebirth of Islam. So to call the Saddam Hussein supporters who are joining with ISIL “Sunnis” is misleading. Saddam’s forces, like ISIL, are opposed to Islam in both its traditional Sunni and Shia forms.

The full name of Sunnism is “the people of the Tradition of the Prophet and the consensus of the community” (ahl as-sunnah wa l-jamaʻah). Eating the livers of dead enemies is not part of the Tradition of the Prophet – it is the tradition of the enemies of the Prophet. And such behavior is obviously not approved by the consensus of the Muslim community. The Tradition of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is one of inclusion, tolerance, mutual respect, and the forging of alliances between people of different tribes and religions. The original Muslim community, whose founding document is the Constitution of Medina, consisted of Christians, Jews and Muslims living together and sharing power and obligations on an equitable basis.

The real Sunna (Tradition) holds to reason and persuasion, and uses violence only as a last resort. The Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and his Family and Companions preached peacefully for 12 years, despite atrocious persecution, before God finally authorized them to fight back in self-defense. The real Tradition of the Prophet respects knowledge so much that “the ink of the scholar is more precious than the blood of the martyr.” And the consensus of the Islamic community is that the work of 14 centuries worth of Islamic scholarship – the five major Islamic madhhabs, both the four Sunni madhhabs and the Shia Ja’fari madhhab – collectively represents mainstream Islam. All Sunni Muslims have tremendous respect for Imam Ja’far al-Sadiq, who founded the main Shia madhhab. The terrorists who reject this tremendous scholarly achievement, and want to kill everyone who disagrees with them, are far outside of normative Sunni Islam. So why does the Western mainstream media insist on calling anti-Sunni, anti-Shia groups like ISIL “Sunni”?

Perhaps the problem is laziness. Since ISIL has a special hatred for Shia Muslims, the simplest way to portray them is to paint the situation as an alleged Sunni vs. Shia conflict. By defaulting to this lowest-common-denominator description, the media absolves itself from the duty of explaining, in detail, what is actually going on. But it is also possible that the corporate media is intentionally misreporting the situation. The extreme-Zionist neoconservatives launched the US invasion of Iraq in order to break up that country, and the Middle East as a whole, by inciting ethnic and sectarian strife. The “Sunni vs. Shia” meme was created and spread by the Occupiers through a wave of false-flag terrorism. Perhaps the media is trumpeting that meme in order to propagate it. In any case, the world’s Sunni Muslims are being slandered every time the media calls ISIL “Sunni.” It is time for Sunnis to reject this mischaracterization of their religion. Perhaps Sunni Muslims should file a class action lawsuit against the media outlets that are spreading this calumny.

posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 04:24 PM

In my opinion this is the real story here, about this barbaric group that call itself ISIL, who happen to be useful barbarians for another kind of barbarians hiding behind the scenes.

edit on 1-7-2014 by Willtell because: (no reason given)

posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 04:32 PM
call me when they get to this guy,,

until then ,,yeahh barbarians at the gate,,,right,,


posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 05:52 PM
Makes more sense .They would fit right nicely in the SA camp of things .That place has Zionism all over it imo .The Neo Cons are quite friendly with them .sickening bunch the whole lot of them .They may end up unifying the whole ME in a cause to eliminate them . That may be why the US is sending in "help" caugh caugh .wink wink . a reply to: Willtell

posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 06:00 PM
Do not matter if they are not following the normal Sunni thinking. You would call crusaders in the old days Christian even if they where very unchristian mercenaries used by the catholic Church. The Salafi/Wahhabi is the equivalent of a inquisitor army for the Saudi Arabian controlled Sunni way.

If ISIL is not Sunni then all Sunni must denounce them and all the contributors like Saudi Arabia. The Sunni cannot have it both ways letting rulers decide and decree how Islam should be followed thru Fatwas as Saudi Arabia does and let them support ISIL and other Salafi/Wahhabi sect and at the same time not call then heretical to the Sunni way.
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posted on Jul, 2 2014 @ 08:11 AM
a reply to: Willtell

"Is ISIL really Sunni?"

It's certainly organised religious gibberish that reeks of illuminati sponsorship aka UK/US/European involvement!

posted on Jul, 2 2014 @ 08:31 AM

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Willtell

"Is ISIL really Sunni?"

It's certainly organised religious gibberish that reeks of illuminati sponsorship aka UK/US/European involvement!

ISIL, ISIS, Sunni, Backstreet Boys... who cares who they are. They are getting paid, and we are afraid of them. It says so in the news.

That is the way I see it.

posted on Jul, 2 2014 @ 08:40 AM
a reply to: MALBOSIA

Tru dat!

posted on Jul, 2 2014 @ 10:34 AM
Religion is a bitch!

The greater point is that for example “Muslims” of ISIL and certain “Christians” who do these kinds of things, even “Buddhists” who are murdering Muslims in Burma are really not following the precepts of their religion so they are really something other than what they claim to be.

Jews who rob Arab lands are not really following their precepts either, unless they believe (the false) premise that God gave these Jews that land and so they have the right to take it back.

That’s the problem with pre-modern religion. In that Bible they say they can stone children and steal land and murder the goyim.

Some people have sense enough to understand they can't follow these pre-modern crazy precepts

Wise and understanding people realize religion has to be upgraded just like anything because the very nature of life is change.

To prove to the dum dums in religion who don’t understand that; then they have to realize that even God updates and upgrades his own messages to humanity

Those who don’t understand that like fundamentalist in ALL religions are just
Deaf, Dumb, and Blind

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