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originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: theantediluvian
You're acting as though Hobby Lobby has banned contraceptives to its employees.
They haven't.
They just won't pay for it.
This entitlement mentality is stunning!
originally posted by: OrphanApology
a reply to: beezzer
Yeah but by requiring people to purchase the insurance(as is the case with ACA because those plans are not affordable) and then making large range of services not available is going to deny access to a lot those women.
Birth control(depends on type but different women require different brands depending on how their body reacts) and female services are not cheap. Women in general pay much more than men for routine care. Pap smears, breast exams, birth control, hysterectomies, ablations, birth control for abnormal bleeding, pregnancy, tube tying after ablations, der...der...der...der.der....
Then on top of that those same women might now be paying for insurance as required that is pretty much useless to them yet very expensive.
originally posted by: theantediluvian
You're acting as though
a) most people don't obtain health insurance coverage through their employers and
b) IUDs are something that people typically pay out of pocket for and more importantly
c) that there's nothing wrong with letting employers arbitrarily dictate what portions of healthcare they should pay
d) and finally, that there's nothing wrong with treating a corporation as an individual!
Imagine that this opens the door to a host of similar actions by companies until one day, it negatively affects a large segment of society, including people you know and care about? It has nothing to do with an entitlement mentality, whatever the hell that is. I'm talking about the reality of how healthcare services are purchased for the majority of people in this country and you're talking in far right catechisms and dismissive platitudes!
originally posted by: buster2010
The money we have wasted on the war on terror could have paid for national healthcare.
originally posted by: olaru12
The conservative right better enjoy this "victory" while they can because the dembs are going to
use this as proof of the "war on women" by the GOP and conservative supreme court. And big business getting preferential treatment over women's rights.
It's about perception and not reality. If Hillary runs, their isn't a republican alive that can win.
Enjoy it while you can.
One of the GOP contenders Christie is already backing away from this decision.
Look it up...
originally posted by: olaru12
The conservative right better enjoy this "victory" while they can because the dembs are going to
use this as proof of the "war on women" by the GOP and conservative supreme court.
It's about perception and not reality. If Hillary runs, their isn't a republican alive that can win.
Enjoy it while you can.
originally posted by: OrphanApology
Hobby Lobby employees make minimum wage.
The evil folks at Hobby Lobby pay their full-time employees a minimum of $14 an hour. That is nearly double the national average for minimum wage. The hourly wage for part-time employees is also $9.50.
originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: OrphanApology
The government made the mistake of mandating anything. Period.
because when you mandate, it goes against so many things in the Constitution.
The government knew this.
It's a bad situation all around.
originally posted by: the owlbear
originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: OrphanApology
The government made the mistake of mandating anything. Period.
because when you mandate, it goes against so many things in the Constitution.
The government knew this.
It's a bad situation all around.
Two words...
Selective service.
It has to do with the Hobby Lobby case. They changed the law to follow the wishes of a religion which goes directly against the first amendment.
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: OrphanApology
Hobby Lobby employees make minimum wage.
Do they?
www.abovetopsecret.com...
The evil folks at Hobby Lobby pay their full-time employees a minimum of $14 an hour. That is nearly double the national average for minimum wage. The hourly wage for part-time employees is also $9.50.
originally posted by: RancorXXX
Xuechen, the problem with making posts like this is that they can so easily be fact checked. The ONLY web sites reporting that Hobby Lobby pays its employees "$14 an hour" are Christian evangelical web sites trying to make Hobby Lobby look like some sort of heroes. This is partisan PR and full of falsehoods on Hobby Lobby and their apologists part. Sorry to be so harsh, but this "$14 an hour" meme is being plugged all across the web by them or one of those dark money political organizations.
Here are the REAL facts on what they pay their employees:
Cashier - Hourly - $9.40/hr (they start at $8)
Stockman - Hourly - $8.68/hr (they start them out at $6 - not even minimum wage!)
Department Head - Hourly - $12.11/hr
Customer Service Manager - Hourly - $11.05/hr
There's a full list here:
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
Do they?
www.abovetopsecret.com...
The evil folks at Hobby Lobby pay their full-time employees a minimum of $14 an hour. That is nearly double the national average for minimum wage. The hourly wage for part-time employees is also $9.50.