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In January 2013 Dr. Amado-Cattaneo commented on the YouTube interview, stating that “Everything that Dr. Lloyd Rudy explained in this video is absolutely true. I was there with him doing this surgery. The patient fully recovered and what he said to us after the surgery is what he experienced”. When brought to the attention of NDE researchers Titus Rivas and Rudolf Smit, they contacted him to ask for more details about the case, and they have recently shared their discussion in the latest issue of the Journal of Near-Death Studies:
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This case happened some time late 1990s early 2000s… I did witness the entire case and everything that my partner Dr. Rudy explained in the video. I do not have a rational scientific explanation to explain this phenomenon. I do know that this happened. This patient had close to 20 minutes or more of no life, no physiologic life, no heart beat, no blood pressure, no respiratory function whatsoever and then he came back to life and told us what you heard on the video. He recovered fully.
…This was not a hoax, no way, this was as real as it gets. We were absolutely shocked that he would come back after 20 or more minutes, we had pronounced him dead on the operating room table and told the wife that he had died.
…we thought all along his description was quite accurate regarding things he said he saw or heard. Patients’ eyes are always shut during surgery, most of the time they are taped so they do not open since this can cause injury to the corneas.
originally posted by: Skada
I watched the video OP embedded (UQbcsY2saD0) and no where in that video was there a mention of NDE, or a patient waking from death. The video was describing how dental cavities were one of the causes of bad heart valves.
I would like to watch the video that you described, and not what ever this video is that has nothing to do with the topic.
originally posted by: SuperFrog
If there was video of procedure and time stamp on it, I would believe its possible, this way, with dental video and no more proof then doctor's word for it... sorry - hard to believe and it is in wrong subforum... this should be moved.
originally posted by: PhoenixOD
you forgot one option:
The machines could have all malfunctioned at the same time and he did not die. Not very likely but the alternative is far more unlikely.
originally posted by: mclarenmp4
May as well add this video to the subject. An atheist neurosurgeon gets a rare type of meningitis which shuts down his brain, has full near death experience and lives to tell the tale. Lets just say he didn't come back as an atheist.
What you're really claiming is that all of the machines malfunctioned simultaneously, and then ceased malfunctioning simultaneously.
originally posted by: PhoenixOD
Almost all of the thing commonly associated with NDE have also been described by people who illegally take dimethyltryptamine. These experiences are absolutely indistinguishable from reality.
Dimethyltryptamine is a naturally occurring substance in the body. it has been proven that it is sometimes created in large quantities by the pineal gland when a person is under extreme stress at or near the point of death.
I think NDE is just a natural process caused by the brain releasing Dimethyltryptamine. Coincidentally the effects of Dimethyltryptamine last for 10-20 mins as the bodies natural MAOI's metabolize the chemical extremely quickly.
This is simply not true. The drug you reference causes a vastly different effect than that of a NDE. '___' hallucinations are often times abstract, and even non-remember able once the subject has "come-down".
originally posted by: PhoenixOD
a reply to: AnarchoCapitalist
What you're really claiming is that all of the machines malfunctioned simultaneously, and then ceased malfunctioning simultaneously.
No i didnt claim anything. You only listed options that backed up your theory , i simply provided an option that you left out.
originally posted by: PhoenixOD
a reply to: MentorsRiddle
This is simply not true. The drug you reference causes a vastly different effect than that of a NDE. '___' hallucinations are often times abstract, and even non-remember able once the subject has "come-down".
Thats only at low dosages. At higher dosages it can produce an alternative reality that is indistinguishable from real life. Its even mentioned on the wiki page for NDE.