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I can't wear a hat, but religious people can?

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posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 09:49 AM
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So a couple years back I got a job at a data entry place. It was funny, during the process of signing up you have to fill out
forms with your information etc. One of the questions on the form was "Are you a visible minority".
I looked up and around at the 20 or so people filling out the forms, and I was the only white person in the whole place.
Kind of funny, I actually didn't know what to put on the form, as I was actually the most visible minority in the room... I guess??

Anyways, that's just a side note. While reading the information of what you can and can't do, policies etc of the company I get to
a place that says no wearing hats of any kind unless it is for religious reasons.

See, I don't understand this. I am not part of any religion, nor could I ever be a part of one. It is impossible, like trying to swim to the moon. That is also impossible. So why can they all wear their hats but not me? I feel like I should be allowed to wear a hat if others are allowed to do so.

If I came in with a hat on, I would be asked to take it off or leave (Maybe even be fired). When a religious person shows up wearing their hat, it's "hey, how's it going nice to see you".

Why is this type of discrimination allowed? I find it very annoying. Anyone else know why non-religious people aren't allowed to wear hats to work but religious people are?




posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 10:14 AM
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a reply to: DumpMaster
They can wear a hat cause it's part of their religion. So You simply start your own religion. The religion of the Hat! (Stands for Hell with All That) Simple! LOL!!



posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 10:18 AM
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a reply to: DumpMaster

Employers have a right to establish a dress code. They don't have a right to infringe upon religious beliefs. That is why they can say that you can't wear your baseball cap at work while others can wear their yamaka.

Used to be that it was considered very bad manners to wear a hat indoors anyways.
Just consider not wearing a hat to be good manners.



posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 10:31 AM
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a reply to: DumpMaster

If you had a problem with it, then why did you take the job? Was there someone holding a gun to your head?



posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 10:46 AM
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I guess it would depend on the type of hat too. A baseball cap with your favorite team or the name of Tully's truck stop for instance might be considered distracting. A fedora or bowler on the other hand could be dressy but still would look odd worn indoors. Do you get cold easily or have a spot you want to cover that you want to wear a hat indoors or are you just stating a case for equal rights on its own merits ? Just nosey. Me that is. reply to: DumpMaster


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posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 10:52 AM
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You could always start wearing a yarmulke or a hijab if your passionate about your cause. Then you'd have your hat and be following policy.


Also I don't think this is considered discrimination. The policy is no hats. The wearing of religious paraphernalia doesn't fall under that policy. Those things cannot be banned by law. If they had a policy about no jewelry a Christian could still wear a cross . A Jew could wear a star of David but I could not wear a gold chain.
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posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 11:04 AM
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I'm guessing this wasn't a make or break policy issue for the OP and just a question of equal rights on a minor level. a reply to: Bone75



posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 11:48 AM
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If you really like your ballcaps, just get a yamaka with a bill on it.
Nobody wants to go up against the Zionist lobby.



posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 12:48 PM
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originally posted by: FlyersFan
Employers have a right to establish a dress code. They don't have a right to infringe upon religious beliefs. That is why they can say that you can't wear your baseball cap at work while others can wear their yamaka.


Well, the people who want to wear a yarmulke can get a job somewhere else, can't they? (This is the argument used when the situation ISN'T revolved around religion...)

Religion is dropping their balls in this country! Watch out, people!



posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 12:55 PM
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Now, I like rants as much as the next person but this is just silly.
First, OP has to delve back into his past several years to find something to rant about.
Then, as a side note, he tosses in a race issue, which having noting to do with the topic of the rant, one might assume has more to do with his own racial biases than anything else. But then I am just assuming.

Then the issue of the hats. Geez. Within moments of the OP, FlyersFan, off the top of his head, pops in with a succinct and to the point answer that any moderately intelligent high school student could figure out. The OP had, by his own words, "a couple of years" to work through this issue. Wha????

I call HOAX. This is not a RANT. This is nothing more than the op attempting to stir up a pot of you know what.



posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 06:02 PM
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Sikhs are allowed to carry daggers in many places because it is considered a religious commandment. I find it annoying that I can not publicly carry a deadly weapon but another can because out of respect for religion.



posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 06:12 PM
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Funny part of this for me is if I were a religious person, I would keep my beliefs to myself and nobody's gonna make me wear a hat!



posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 07:10 PM
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a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Hey, sorry, it was all at the same job so I thought it was just an interesting point. Lots of them were wearing hats too..
Just saying.

I never said anything about race either, because we are all the same race, human being. The thing said visual minority. I mentioned skin color, but I could have also said I wear glasses. Most people don't wear glasses, so I would be a minority, and it's visual both in terms of you can see it, and also actually visual.. heh.

I was just recently reminded of this type of thing so it brought a memory back. In the end, it is the employer saying you guys over there in that group, you can wear hats, and you guys over there, you are not allowed.

I personally don't wear hats, but was offended by someone telling me I couldn't because I didn't belong to a religion.



posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 07:13 PM
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originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
I'm guessing this wasn't a make or break policy issue for the OP and just a question of equal rights on a minor level. a reply to: Bone75



Pretty close. I was just more or less saying why do they get such a right when others are flat out refused, based on being involved in a religion, which has nothing to do with business or the workplace at all whatsoever.

Extra rights given to religious and not the non-religious.



posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 10:44 PM
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God Wants You to Wear a Hat
www.youtube.com...



posted on Jul, 2 2014 @ 02:30 AM
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Become a Patafarian and you can wear a collander on your head.
Its already had a court precedent set so your boss cant say S##T!!!!
Thatll teach to em make BS rules


The Flying Spaghetti Monster is real!!!!!



posted on Jul, 3 2014 @ 10:29 AM
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originally posted by: DumpMaster
a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Hey, sorry, it was all at the same job so I thought it was just an interesting point. Lots of them were wearing hats too..
Just saying.

I never said anything about race either, because we are all the same race, human being. The thing said visual minority. I mentioned skin color, but I could have also said I wear glasses. Most people don't wear glasses, so I would be a minority, and it's visual both in terms of you can see it, and also actually visual.. heh.

I was just recently reminded of this type of thing so it brought a memory back. In the end, it is the employer saying you guys over there in that group, you can wear hats, and you guys over there, you are not allowed.

I personally don't wear hats, but was offended by someone telling me I couldn't because I didn't belong to a religion.


Master

Yes, I see the interesting conundrum of the question of are you a visible minority whilst sitting in a room of people where your skin color made you the visible minority even though you know the question itself was geared to a larger picture.

I am gladdened that your response to my critique was even tempered and balanced. I try to not be to critical of others posts but you can see how one might read into what you wrote the things I assumed. Thank you for not taking offense.

Society is far from consistent and little things like the hat issue often fall through the cracks allowing for unconsidered side effects. Best to let some of these things just slide I suppose. After all, this was nothing more than a secular government action attempting to secure freedom of religious expression for those who choose to do so.

Yours

T
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posted on Jul, 3 2014 @ 10:38 AM
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originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
Become a Patafarian and you can wear a collander on your head.
Its already had a court precedent set so your boss cant say S##T!!!!
Thatll teach to em make BS rules


The Flying Spaghetti Monster is real!!!!!


Heresy and Blasphemy!

Its Pastafarian. Do not take its name in vain, padawan.





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