Electromagnetism or Gravity which force is primarily governing the STAR-SOL system?

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posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 07:50 AM
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Is the force holding the SOL system and other STAR systems and then further GALAXIES together or in place gravity or electromagnetism (EM)? This question has been generated because it has came to thought that if it is gravity then what is preventing the SUNS gravity from pulling all the planets and moons including asteroid belt into the STAR...
As opposed to how all the mentioned celestial bodies remain in a somewhat consistent distance from the STAR.



Electromagnetism, or the electromagnetic force is one of the four fundamental interactions in nature, the other three being the strong interaction, the weak interaction, and gravitation. This force is described by electromagnetic fields, and has innumerable physical instances including the interaction of electrically charged particles and the interaction of uncharged magnetic force fields with electrical conductors.




Gravitation, or gravity, is a natural phenomenon by which all physical bodies attract each other. It is most commonly recognized and experienced as the agent that gives weight to physical objects and causes physical objects to fall toward the ground when dropped from a height.It is hypothesized that the gravitational force is mediated by a massless spin-2 particle called the graviton. Gravity is one of the four fundamental forces of nature, along with electromagnetism, and the nuclear strong force and weak force. Colloquially, gravitation is a force of attraction that acts between and on all physical objects with matter (mass) or energy.


This consistent distance 1 subjectively associates with electromagnetism present within the celestial bodies and the nearest STAR to them, more than gravity for the celestial bodies are not falling constantly into the nearest STAR, but they are trapped in its energy field... Electromagnetism seems more like what is going on between the STAR and its celestial bodies near. So if you moved SOL out of its interactive distance the planets would not follow its gravity field to 1 as much as they would start to move out of their consistent orbits influenced by the nearest STAR. They may even attract in an odd way to each other's EM fields and the celestial with the most EM energy would reset the planets remaining that didn't fling off into the cosmos orbits in a new odd way...

Following this premise each celestial body (planet-moon-asteroid-comet) contains a EM field that interacts with the nearest STAR EM field. And if any of the local celestial body EM fields are disrupted they may affect the entire EM field of the STAR system.
Remove JUPITER or another planet for ex. with a large enough EM field and the entire STAR systems EM field is disrupted, which may cause atmospheric weather changes-planetary structure movements or quake disruptions
upon the remaining celestial bodies. This leads 1 to lean more towards EM field then Gravity field managing the STAR systems.

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posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 07:52 AM
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Add in a charged celestial body much smaller with a smaller EM field like a Asteroid/Comet and it may cause smaller changes as it nears or comes in contact with other celestial bodies.

Gravity is playing an important factor, but is the gravity influence more associated with the movement of the universal medium surrounding the STAR systems and all bodies present within?

for ex: like water moving objects within it as it flows and so having static like influences on an objects movements when friction is caused from the water medium coming in contact with objects within it. Comparable to the universal medium material coming in contact with celestial bodies generating friction from contact, which would possibly process as gravity as the objects gained more static over periods of contact. And static electricity attracts like gravity. Remember the static experiments with the balloon or metal rod and pieces of paper and how when the balloon or rod received static charge it then would pick of the pieces or attract them like gravity?




Static electricity is an imbalance of electric charges within or on the surface of a material. The charge remains until it is able to move away by means of an electric current or electrical discharge. Static electricity is named in contrast with current electricity, which flows through wires or other conductors and transmits energy.[1]A static electric charge is created whenever two surfaces contact and separate, and at least one of the surfaces has a high resistance to electrical current (and is therefore an electrical insulator).


Science guy moment


ISON and MARS electric discharge?


So 1 isn't denouncing gravities influence what 1 is asking is the EM field energy more influential?

Q-1
If this is possibly what is going on then can another large celestial body or large mass containing celestial body interfere with another large celestial body or large mass containing celestial bodies STAR system from afar before in visual or observation distance?
Q-2
And what would be the evidence to look for as the two or more EM possessing celestial bodies EM fields (& systems) began to come in contact with each other. (maybe they play dodge/volley ball) on a cosmic level... w/?

Thanks for your time and input if shared.

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posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 07:59 AM
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originally posted by: Ophiuchus 13
Is the force holding the SOL system and other STAR systems and then further GALAXIES together or in place gravity or electromagnetism (EM)? This question has been generated because it has came to thought that if it is gravity then what is preventing the SUNS gravity from pulling all the planets and moons including asteroid belt into the STAR...
As opposed to how all the mentioned celestial bodies remain in a somewhat consistent distance from the STAR.


Momentum of the movement of the planets in the tangential direction keep them from falling into the sun. Gravity pulls in, momentum keeps planets moving in their orbits. This keeps the planets' orbits in relative equilibrium and they don't fall into the sun.



posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 08:00 AM
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Add in the EM-energy emitted from inhabitants and the picture begins to grow possibly how certain behaviors which do generate different EM fields could have physical effects on the inhabitant surroundings on and off planet... That's another frequency based thread OP



posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 08:43 AM
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originally posted by: Ophiuchus 13
Is the force holding the SOL system and other STAR systems and then further GALAXIES together or in place gravity or electromagnetism (EM)? This question has been generated because it has came to thought that if it is gravity then what is preventing the SUNS gravity from pulling all the planets and moons including asteroid belt into the STAR...
As opposed to how all the mentioned celestial bodies remain in a somewhat consistent distance from the STAR.

Do you know what an orbit is? Orbit

There are a few common ways of understanding orbits:

* As the object moves sideways, it falls toward the central body. However, it moves so quickly that the central body will curve away beneath it.
* A force, such as gravity, pulls the object into a curved path as it attempts to fly off in a straight line.
* As the object moves sideways (tangentially), it falls toward the central body. However, it has enough tangential velocity to miss the orbited object, and will continue falling indefinitely.


Obriting bodies are kept from falling into the star by their own momentum. It's the same way the ISS orbits the Earth, and has nothing to do with electromagnetism.

Judging by your posts in this thread, you're falling victim to the Electric Universe psedosicience.

Electromagnetism is born of the moving charged particles. Many objects in the Solar System are just big chunks of rock, they have not EM field of their own. But they have mass (and therefore gravity) which is exactly why planets orbit the Sun, moons orbit the planets (and some asteroids) and why man-made satellites orbit Earth and other bodies in our system.
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posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 08:44 AM
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a reply to: Ophiuchus 13

Six of one and a half dozen of the other I imagine.



posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 09:06 AM
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a reply to: Pistoche
a reply to: wildespace
Logical answers. What causes the celestial momentum to occur if the STAR is pulling them and they somehow gain momentum or keep a consistent momentum which prevents them from falling into STAR?

As far as some other celestial "rocks" is there proof that none have EM fields associated? The ISS seems to be in orbit because the universal medium has it captured in a static or gravity field which is pulling it away from planet and the EA*RTH is pulling it towards planet so its sustained in its location from a tug of war between celestial body and universal medium movements...
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posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 09:11 AM
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Excuse the crude nature of my sketch.

This is about the extent of my knowledge on the subject as a layman.

I would like to learn how electromagnetism comes in to play against this force.



posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 09:17 AM
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a reply to: andy06shake
un clear andy06shake please explain
a reply to: shaneslaughta
If the STAR is in center and planet within black ring, the STAR is generating the EM field the planet has its own EM field. The planet is rotating from the universal medium coming in contact with the planets EM field as is the STAR. The ORBIT is the tug between the STAR EM field and the universal medium Static energy trapping the celestial object in consistent location between both influences... If I misunderstood your image please clarify so 1 can more elaborate shaneslaughta.
Celestial "rocks" have contact with Universal medium which generates static from friction contact so they are charged just from moving thru the energized universal medium this UM 1 feels is where momentum is coming from as its spinning the spheres. Maybe even why many objects become spheres or rounded from the universal medium spinning them...
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posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 09:22 AM
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originally posted by: shaneslaughta


Excuse the crude nature of my sketch.

This is about the extent of my knowledge on the subject as a layman.

I would like to learn how electromagnetism comes in to play against this force.


The classic experiment is to get a piece of strong cord or string, thread it through some kind of tube that can be held in the hands, tie two weights to each end of the string, then make one weight spin round and round. Eventually
certain weights and rotational velocities would balance.

Sun = the weight hanging down, Earth = the weight spinning round, combined gravity and centripetal force = the string.



posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 09:27 AM
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a reply to: stormcell

Thanks stormcell, do you know of any videos showing this experiment to better present visual observation?



posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 09:32 AM
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The EM fields come from Universal Medium interacting with celestial objects from point of generation 1 subjectively feels... So much static build up along with movement initiated on the CORE of the celestials to their outermost parts makes field.

Is the universal medium not acknowledged and written off as just invisible space with no properties or influences?
The answers are appreciated thus far 1 is not challenging anyone's belief systems
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posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 09:44 AM
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originally posted by: Ophiuchus 13
a reply to: wildespace
What causes the celestial momentum to occur if the STAR is pulling them and they somehow gain momentum or keep a consistent momentum which prevents them from falling into STAR?

The Solar System (like other systems) was born out of a rotating molecular cloud, which then concentrated into a spinning disc. This rotation is what gave planets their momentum. Nothing in the universe is stationary, and even a slight bit of movement can be translated into angular momentum, which then is always conserved.


As far as some other celestial "rocks" is there proof that none have EM fields associated?

We have ways to detect and measure EM fields. Even Mars and Venus don't have EM fields of their own (if I understood correctly).


The ISS seems to be in orbit because the universal medium has it captured in a static or gravity field which is pulling it away from planet and the EA*RTH has is pulling it towards planet so its sustained in its location from a tug of war between celestial body and universal medium movements...

Sorry, you are not making any sense here. What universal medium? Why would this medium be pulling the ISS away from Earth?

Have you even learned the basic physics, and where do you get your strange and nonsensical ideas from?


Motions of celestial bodies are due to the tug of two forces - gravitational and inertial.



posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 09:45 AM
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www.holoscience.com...

This is a good article, hard to quote from because I'd want to quote over the limit here. Its electric universe and plasma theory.

and

www.holoscience.com...
Electric Gravity in an Electric Universe



posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 09:59 AM
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And so ATS gets another Electric Universe thread.

Actually, I'm intrigued by it, and honestly hope it can come up with something solid and truly challenging for the mainstream model (because science thrives on questioning, observing, correcting, verifying, etc.), but all I have seen from the EU thus far is preaching, hand-waving, misrepresenting science, and basically making no sense.

It's not like we can sweep centuries of solid and verified science, which gave us spaceflight and the ability to predict the motion of Solar System bodies with enough precision to randezvous spacecraft with planets, moons, comets and asteroids, under the rug, because the EU theory is so much cooler, funky, and challenges the establishment.



posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 10:12 AM
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originally posted by: wildespace
The Solar System (like other systems) was born out of a rotating molecular cloud, which then concentrated into a spinning disc. This rotation is what gave planets their momentum. Nothing in the universe is stationary, and even a slight bit of movement can be translated into angular momentum, which then is always conserved.


What is this rotating molecular cloud rotating on (nothingness?) or within a universal medium which is able to hold its solid items?

It seems the SOL system would be generated from remnants from a small NEBULA that have somehow all gathered together in their own ways (as the like materials attracted) forming planets moons and left over potential asteroids/comets. After this process of gathering material into sediment "clumps" cooled or settled these clumps formed celestial bodies. Celestial bodies that originally were energized from primary nebula which made them.

As these celestial objects further settled, their OWN EM fields forced distance/space between them as this distance was occurring the STARS EM field further placed these objects into a set location, why at the same time the Universal Medium was in contact from the points before clumps formed when all the celestial bodies were just minute dust particles and large sediments forming in the current locations in which they sit.

This is 1z subjective hypothesis of how the SOL system formed. The steps were all energized from UM and main STAR EM Fields generated from UM contact with core materials within STARS and Planet and other celestial objects...


originally posted by: wildespace

We have ways to detect and measure EM fields. Even Mars and Venus don't have EM fields of their own (if I understood correctly).


They don't or are not yet observable with current EA*RTH based techs 1 wonders. Considering they both possess poles?

originally posted by: wildespace
Sorry, you are not making any sense here. What universal medium? Why would this medium be pulling the ISS away from Earth?

The universal medium is what you see when you observe space and see nothing and so write it off as nothingness which is odd as air is invisible (somewhat) but its a main product of life here and so something? The celestial objects are not sitting in nothingness, that is what 1 describes as the medium in which ISS is pulled from EA*RTH as EA*RTH pulls it towards itself...


originally posted by: wildespace

Have you even learned the basic physics, and where do you get your strange and nonsensical ideas from?


Well not trained or fully educated on EA*RTH based physics
this is why 1 asked


originally posted by: wildespace
Motions of celestial bodies are due to the tug of two forces


agreed
Thanks for taking time to add your appreciated data wildspace its all compiled and filtered eventually for 1.

a reply to: Unity_99

Thanks Unity_99

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posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 10:17 AM
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the bodies are continually falling towards the sun, but the sun curvature curves away, so the bodies stay in orbit. It is not the centrifugal force nor the momentum preventing the bodies from actually falling in to the sun.
a reply to: Ophiuchus 13



posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 10:20 AM
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a reply to: Nochzwei

Another perspective something to consider as well.

Thanks Nochzwei
for presenting another perspective "sun curvature"



posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 10:22 AM
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a reply to: Ophiuchus 13

Meaning that electromagnetism and or gravity could quite possibly be the same thing or at the very least have some form of direct relationship and it's our understanding or perception regarding the above that's "un clear".


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posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 10:23 AM
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originally posted by: wildespace

It's not like we can sweep centuries of solid and verified science, which gave us spaceflight and the ability to predict the motion of Solar System bodies with enough precision to randezvous spacecraft with planets, moons, comets and asteroids, under the rug, because the EU theory is so much cooler, funky, and challenges the establishment.


Not the agenda wildespace.
Just remember there are many ways to accomplish the same goals-outcomes in reference to spaceflight and the ability to predict the motion of Solar System bodies with enough precision to rendezvous spacecraft with planets, moons, comets and asteroids,
some however may be more primitive then others more advanced...





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