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All but four nations are subject to NSA surveillance – new Snowden leak

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posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 05:32 PM
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Previously undisclosed files leaked to the media by former intelligence contractor Edward Snowden now show that the United States National Security Agency has been authorized to spy on persons in all but four countries.



One of the documents—a file marked “top secret” from 2010 and approved by the US Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court—shows that the NSA has been authorized to conduct surveillance on 193 foreign government, as well as various factions and organizations around the world, including the International Monetary Fund, the European Union and the International Atomic Energy Agency.

All but four nations are subject to NSA surveillance – new Snowden leak

Well, more to Add to the snowden /NSA saga.

My personal feeling is that all this is getting old.
Everyone knows the NSA has its tenticals Everywhere.
My hope is that snowden will stop playing chess and release information that would seal the fate of the NSA.
If he has it of course .


So ATS what is your opinion on this new leak?
Do you think this will have an impact on US relations with other countries?


Please share your thoughts.

Humbly

LSH




posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 05:45 PM
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a reply to: LightningStrikesHere

Can't remember who said it but I heard a radio talk show host mention it.

He was talking about how even the "mainstream whistleblowers" (Snowden, Wikileaks, etc.) are a form of controlled opposition. Only ever releasing information that has already been out for a long time but has had no "official" announcements/admissions. All these whistle-blowers are, are the official admission of various projects. Used to gauge public outcry, among other things.

I've felt Russia/USA are in cahoots more or less. It's all a game. They are both part of that "Global Community" as they like to refer to the planet in their new world order speeches.

I mean, if I was Ed Snowden, and I knew about massive NSA spying programs.. Tied into all the other NWO theories.. The last place I would go is Russia..

The time for affirmation of corruption after corruption, all things many of us knew about or expected simply based on TPTB track record is over. It's time to stop the corruption!
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posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 05:56 PM
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a reply to: WakeUpBeer

Ding Ding Ding

winner winner
chicken dinner

I would go to Russia
have you seen the skirts & heels
their female police officers are wearing... rrrrrrrrrow



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 05:57 PM
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What is funny is that the 4 semi left out nations are being picked up by other countries that share intel with the usa anyway.

I have passenger pigeons for sale...



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 06:01 PM
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Interesting, the 4 echelon participating countries.

It wouldnt surprise me if the whole snowden leaks fair was planned by the us government in the first place.
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posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 06:05 PM
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I don't get it.


According to the Post, the NSA’s computers automatically filter out phone calls from Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand that would otherwise be collected using FISA. Even those nations, however, aren’t entirely sparred.

Why those four? I would have thought countries like Bali?
Not entirely "sparred", means just that.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 06:09 PM
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Lies. The entire surface of the Earth is subject to surveillance.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 06:23 PM
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a reply to: LightningStrikesHere

That could get interesting. Everyone "knows" the NSA spies on everyone..........else. No one generally thinks the phone they hold right now is part of it and those are some important people represented for a public reminder that even their private lines were party lines for Fort Meade,



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 06:28 PM
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And those four nations are still under NSA surveillance, they just haven't leaked that version yet.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 06:41 PM
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Those four countries are PART of NSA surveillance. After the second world war, the world was divided up between UK, USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand for each country to spy on. Each country shares with the others - it's part of a system know as UKUSA (pronounced you cuse a).


My personal feeling is that all this is getting old.
Everyone knows the NSA has its tenticals Everywhere.
My hope is that snowden will stop playing chess and release information that would seal the fate of the NSA.
If he has it of course .


If there is any orchestration to the Snowden leaks at all (not saying there is, just ruminating out loud), then perhaps this could be a goal. Get people so used to the fact they are being spied on that they become apathetic to the idea and turn back to the latest Idol/reality show on TV.

The NSA has been demonstrated to spy on people within the US, so you would think there are other lists. People can take simple steps to make it more difficult for their communications to be monitored. You probably can't stop the intercept, but you can make it very difficult for anyone to decrypt communications by using simple tools such as https, TOR/I2P, etc.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 07:02 PM
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I can't believe the dragon is really that big after all. I mean, we've heard about it for years, but these guys are really trying to control every last human soul on the planet, aren't they. Ends justify the means and all that.

Not sure where this antipathy towards Snowden's coming from though. Disinfo tactics, at a guess. All the US government can really do is try and turn public support against their accusers. It worked pretty well with Assange, with the trumped up (previously dismissed) sexual assault case.

Speaking of the US and justice and things like that...is any brave legal spirit ever going to make some headway against all this nonsense? I mean, this level of invasive spying has to be unconstitutional, no? Or are all the various agencies shaking their finger at the NSA and doing a Three Stooges "whyIaughta'..." bit. Oversight...anyone seeing any?

Regardless, it looks like cold war america never went away at all. Paranoia, McCarthyism, domestic spying that would make J. Edgar Hoover balk and everyone breathing a nervous sigh and saying "well, at least they aren't kicking down MY door."
Sad state of affairs.
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posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 07:29 PM
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originally posted by: Wrabbit2000
a reply to: LightningStrikesHere

That could get interesting. Everyone "knows" the NSA spies on everyone..........else. No one generally thinks the phone they hold right now is part of it and those are some important people represented for a public reminder that even their private lines were party lines for Fort Meade,

Yes but No Wrab, we are being opined by the OP at least, that it's all, "Old hat" we're supposed to yawn and "Burger it"
however you are 100% correct about the phone, specifically a cordless base set. How would anyone want to think that some Geek is sitting listening to conversation in any room in your house where there is a cordless phone? or that it can be associated to any cordless phone in someone else's house by the contact numbers stored in the phone base set. beep, beep, beep as simple as that.
The thing is, and at the end of the day, the NSA is spying on you, us or we, for ANY PURPOSE! period.
Part of the program, 'The National Security Letter'


'National Security Letters allow the government to get detailed information on Americans’ [finances and communications without oversight from a judge. The FBI has issued hundreds of thousands of NSLs and has even been reprimanded for abusing them.'] It's all true.
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posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 07:37 PM
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originally posted by: spoonbender
a reply to: WakeUpBeer

Ding Ding Ding

winner winner
chicken dinner

I would go to Russia
have you seen the skirts & heels
their female police officers are wearing... rrrrrrrrrow


Do you have any source material for this? Can you provide a link to a source?



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 07:52 PM
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originally posted by: spoonbender
a reply to: WakeUpBeer

Ding Ding Ding

winner winner
chicken dinner

I would go to Russia
have you seen the skirts & heels
their female police officers are wearing... rrrrrrrrrow

Fellas like to ogle don't they. So okay you are only joking, you don't really mean Snowden went there for the crumpet..do you?



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 07:56 PM
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I've always thought if Snowden really had something to say, he'd say it. So far, he has 'leaked' information that , if we didn't know, we certainly suspected.
The way he barely drips little tidbits out makes it seem like another SYOP to me.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 08:05 PM
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The one question I keep asking myself,

Why doesn't Snowden release everything at once?

Either controlled opposition made for us to feel like someone is fighting on our side OR there will truly will be a great loss of life and so called balance if that were to happen.

Snowden seems to be that, "hey, look over here!" guy, while Obama pulls rabbits out of his arse.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 09:01 PM
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Gaaaaaaahhhhhh!

Snowden doesn't have ANYTHING with him anymore. It was all given to Glenn Greenwald, Laura Poitras and the Guardian to sift through with the agreement that they would thoroughly vet everything before releasing anything to make sure that no one out in the field would be harmed by the release. As far as I know, they even ask the U.S. government if certain releases would harm anyone (unlike Cheney's minions bothered to do) and unless they can be given sincere reasons why not to release something, out it comes. There's enough there to dribble out for centuries, in any event.

And he didn't stay in Russia out of choice, he was transiting through there in an attempt to get to South America when the U.S. pulled his passport, which marooned him in the Russian airport for weeks. He then requested asylum in dozens of countries before he was granted a year in Russia, which will be over soon.

If you're going to speculate, at least get your basic facts right.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 09:13 PM
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Very interesting! My observations are... we spy on the Pope, and Vatican City! As a Catholic I'm shocked, perhaps the Vatican should complain about separation of Church and State? Also I see that four nations are exempt ... Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. Obviously they have equivalent surveillance of their citizens in those countries? I also wonder if there are intelligence agreements with those countries, to share intelligence? Imagine the NSA sharing gathered intelligence on US citizens with Canada or Britain!



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 10:48 PM
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originally posted by: Pink Panther
Very interesting! My observations are... we spy on the Pope, and Vatican City! As a Catholic I'm shocked, perhaps the Vatican should complain about separation of Church and State? Also I see that four nations are exempt ... Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. Obviously they have equivalent surveillance of their citizens in those countries? I also wonder if there are intelligence agreements with those countries, to share intelligence? Imagine the NSA sharing gathered intelligence on US citizens with Canada or Britain!


I am having a hard time believing that the NSA violates our constitutional rights, at the behest of the executive branch, and they give 4 countries a pass. So I have this land for sale with a bridge.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 11:02 PM
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a reply to: LightningStrikesHere
So basically, according to the article, they should have had ample warning of the Benghazi attack, and well in advance of it, if they can sniff out every conversation from every phone on the planet. Same goes for the Boston Marathon bombing and other events. So someone is either lying or they are false flag events or events are allowed to happen to further some agenda.



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