originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: neo96
If a women knows that a pregnancy would be disastrous to her heath to have a kid couldn't you see how she would see that it is a bit discriminatory
that she has to pay for her treatment but there's a myriad of potential illnesses that might pop up in someone's lives decades down the road that
have tests provided for free of charge that she will be paying for??
It would seem you have confused the forced purchase of a for profit product with "free" and with "right." Sadly it would also seem you have
swallowed the "talking points" and seem again to confuse them with rights.
If a woman may die a horrible death if she doesn't get health insurance to cover her birth control so be it. What you fail to see is this:
She is not stopped from buying birth control, nor is she going to die in the same way if she will die from eating peanuts, as she is not stopped from
avoiding peanuts. Sex is not right at all and if your life or death system is so distorted that 3 minutes of banging is more important then your life
you've got bigger problems then birth control.
Nothing is free, despite what the talking points say. You pay what is called a premium and that 800 dollars a months is spread out among others with
the PROFIT being taken off the top before any claims are paid - that is how insurance works. As an insurance company I can deny claims, deny service,
deny any damn thing I want because it is my company.
Birth control, the right to have a for profit product protect against unwanted pregnancy is NOT A RIGHT, anymore then the RIGHT to have TV to protect
against unwanted boredom.
The Pharma industry made birth control a doctor dispensed product for one reason and one reason only: PROFIT. Back when the wonderful pill was created
it was determined that dispensing through a doctor would allow two things: Money for the doctor every three months - payday, and higher fees for the
pill because it wasn't sold on a shelf next to tampons.
Birth control isn't a right, it is a PRODUCT, a PRODUCT that is sold and as long as said terrified woman can buy it there is no problem. And guess
what, even if it isn't available she is fine. Here is what is so funny to me about these kind of arguments. The talking point avoids the obvious
which I think you should say: "Without insurance covered birth control a woman can shag as often as she likes without the concern of pregnancy ruing
the sex." Sex is the point here, not healthcare.
Lastly. Regurgitating the talking points is NOT an argument in favor of anything at all but a sign one hasn't thought anything through themselves.
The government mandated people buy a private company product, a product that is centered around the system of "for profit." Consider this, if you
hate Hobby Lobby's christian nonsense you can say, "I do not want to support them" and you are allowed to run them into the ground with your
protest. I you hate the way the islamic terrorists use the local mosque you can run them into the ground by not buying their products. I you do not
like the insurance company paying for chemo therapy due to the horrendous failure rate, why should you not be allowed to do the same? There is no
difference except when you throw in the carefully crafted talking points.
This has never been done, and they did this when they knew full well that the "poor" were covered under the old system we have, and so were the
rich, though the claimed it was the damn poor that were the people who had no insurance and were killing us all. While you believe health care is
right based on talking points, and your believe "free" is somehow free, you have to wonder why all these rights give money to the only industry that
didn't get a fair handout after 2008, a handout that would help defray loses.
Lastly. If health care, and the concern for the fellow man was the point, the law would have been one page: Those who do not have insurance, and
cannot get it through a state agency, can sign up for Medicare at a fixed premium of 100 dollars a month per person for those making between 20-100k a
year. They didn't do that for a reason and the reason isn't good.