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Hobby Lobby wins Supreme Court case, limits the ACA contraception mandate

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posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 08:22 PM
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originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: MOMof3
Congratulations! And to the Muslims, Mormons, and Jehovah Witnesses. Sharia law for you daughters and sons in the workplace, is on its way.


That's right every form of religious discrimination is now ok. All you have to do is say my faith says it should be this way.


Exactly!

By George, I think he's got it!

The only entity that is constitutionally barred from doing so it the government and it's various tentacles.

And that's the way it ought to be.

The simple remedy is that if you have a problem with how a private business is run, then don't trade with them, don't work for them. That's a bit more difficult to do in dealings with a government. It's harder to just quit, and decide not to do business with a government.




posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 08:23 PM
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Let me put it in a way people may understand. . .

Supplying a comprehensive medical package (mandated) by the government just isn't feasible.

It flies in the face of fiscal/religious/personal beliefs.

It's like the government mandating that regardless of where you go to eat, you should be able to get anything you want.

Go to McDonalds? Ordering the Chicken Tika.
Go to an Italian restaurant? Ordering Mongolian Beef.

Some places just won't be able to cater to your individual needs.

Thus everyone who is for government mandated insurance, because with a controlling central authority dictating, then EVERYTHING will be on the menu.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 08:24 PM
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This ludicrous decision will be overturned in due time (by a less politicized Court) simply because it seeks to use RFRA ("Religious Freedom Restoration Act" 1993) as its philosophical basis.

RFRA is not the Constitution and does not serve as the ultimate basis of American law.

RFRA has already been ruled unconstitutional in 1997 in City of Boerne v. Flores.

RFRA oversteps the powers allotted to Congress via the Fourteenth Amendment (per Boerne).

RFRA does not establish corporations as "persons" nor can it; any Court that is not blinded by ideology will see this.

Yet, Burwell, et. al. v. Hobby Lobby, et. al references RFRA as the sole basis for it's decision.

Read it before you comment, specifically the first few items after the word "HELD:" ... that's where the actual ruling begins.

This is the ultimate case of "legislating from the bench" in American history, decried by so many conswervatives until they get a ruling in their favor. Hypocrites.

But, the high-point is, since we will likely have Democratic Presidents for the next 10 years or so, a not-too-future Court will have the chance to undo this ridiculous ruling.

LOL


edit on 20Mon, 30 Jun 2014 20:30:02 -050014p082014666 by Gryphon66 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 08:25 PM
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originally posted by: windword

SCOTUS ruled that Title X should administer the birth control that Hobby Lobby won't. That puts the burden on the tax payer.



And rightfully so - it's the taxpayer's fault that the travesty colloquially known as "Obamacare" was passed, so they SHOULD be the ones to foot the bill for it!



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 08:25 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

Really? We're going to be that childish? Fine. Obese people sit there and bring on the diabetes and cardiac problems all by themselves. Go pay for your CABG, insulin or just finish yourself off with a pint. Drug addict? Smoker? Who cares .... You chose to work at a company that had asbestos! That chemo ...just work harder man. ..who let all that riff raff into the room ? (I suddenly have The Wall in my head)
Yes, I expect Healthcare to cover basic Healthcare ...isn't that a flipping surprise? Yes, birth control I would consider a BASIC preventative health need along with mammograms, prostate exams, vaccines and physicals. What am I thinking ??? Why do people have insurance at all?

Tell me Mr. Economist....what is your solution to fixing our healthcare system? Because subtracting family planning wouldn't be my first choice.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 08:26 PM
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a reply to: buster2010

Who owns Hobby Lobby? The Green family. Are they not people?

Who doesn't own Hobby Lobby? You, me, and the United States Government (or anyone who is no the Green family).

In the private sector, who gets the right to run their business however they want (more or less) even when it comes to religious fundamentals? The person/people who own(s) it.

It's their right. You don't have to agree with their choice, but it's their choice.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 08:30 PM
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a reply to: paleorchid13

A real sense of entitlement you have there, friend.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 08:31 PM
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originally posted by: paleorchid13
a reply to: beezzer

Really? We're going to be that childish? Fine. Obese people sit there and bring on the diabetes and cardiac problems all by themselves. Go pay for your CABG, insulin or just finish yourself off with a pint. Drug addict? Smoker? Who cares .... You chose to work at a company that had asbestos! That chemo ...just work harder man. ..who let all that riff raff into the room ? (I suddenly have The Wall in my head)
Yes, I expect Healthcare to cover basic Healthcare ...isn't that a flipping surprise? Yes, birth control I would consider a BASIC preventative health need along with mammograms, prostate exams, vaccines and physicals. What am I thinking ??? Why do people have insurance at all?


Hyperbole.


Tell me Mr. Economist....what is your solution to fixing our healthcare system? Because subtracting family planning wouldn't be my first choice.


Instead of raising taxes, premiums to pay for the high cost of healthcare,

Look for ways to lower healthcare cost so everyone can pay on their own without relying on insurance

There are plenty of threads on the subject.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 08:35 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

LOL!




posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 08:36 PM
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Pro-Abortion Activists Threaten to Burn Down Hobby Lobby Stores After SCOTUS Ruling

www.lifenews.com...



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 08:40 PM
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a reply to: paleorchid13

Going with the slippery slope angle huh?

How about forcing someone to pay a fine for not buying a product they can't afford?

What will the next product I have to purchase be?



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 08:42 PM
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a reply to: Stormdancer777

Seven tweets, one from a comedian, constitutes a wave of "pro abortion" activists threatening to burn the stores down? -Snip-

edit on 30-6-2014 by Jason88 because: Didn't mean to come off that rude, so snipped.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 08:42 PM
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a reply to: Destinyone

Des, you keep saying Planned Parenthood, but my nearest Planned Parenthood is over 100 miles away. That doesn't make for easy access. If I wanted to obtain birth control at this very moment the best I could do is condoms as I can not afford the co-pay to see a Dr. right now.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 08:42 PM
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originally posted by: Stormdancer777
Pro-Abortion Activists Threaten to Burn Down Hobby Lobby Stores After SCOTUS Ruling

www.lifenews.com...


Ahhh...the real socialists come crawling out of the woodwork. If I can't make you give to me, what I want, when I want it...I'll destroy you.

Yep...sounds like an Obama agenda. How is this any different than the old Weather Underground's agenda. Bill Ayers originally from SDS, and buddy to Obama. Coming full circle I see.

Des



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 08:42 PM
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originally posted by: Stormdancer777
Pro-Abortion Activists Threaten to Burn Down Hobby Lobby Stores After SCOTUS Ruling

www.lifenews.com...




And yet the pro abortion groups are afraid of the pro lifers protesting in front of their murder stores.

I love tolerance.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 08:43 PM
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a reply to: KawRider9

Well in most states, car insurance, and in many states, ID cards as a license to exercise the right to vote.

There's a few.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 08:44 PM
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originally posted by: mOjOm

originally posted by: nenothtu

If someone breaks into your home and exterminates your family for no good reason, that is a "bad" killing. If, instead, you intercept the interlopers, set them on fire, and throw them back out, that is a "good" killing.


So with the US killing innocent families in their homes in the Middle East (Bad Killing), it would be, by your rationale, "Good Killing" for them to start setting the US on fire and throwing them back out, correct???


Is that not what they did?

Have you slept through the past few years?

You may not be all that familiar with the way the military works - If a soldier goes on a killing spree against innocent civilians for no good reason, they run into problems like "battlefield justice" and off the battlefield, those pesky "Courts Martial".




edit on 2014/6/30 by nenothtu because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 08:44 PM
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originally posted by: calstorm
a reply to: Destinyone

Des, you keep saying Planned Parenthood, but my nearest Planned Parenthood is over 100 miles away. That doesn't make for easy access. If I wanted to obtain birth control at this very moment the best I could do is condoms as I can not afford the co-pay to see a Dr. right now.


So what's the problem?



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 08:45 PM
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a reply to: Stormdancer777

Very nice people there on Twitter. So progressive. You'd think that Hobby Lobby hires no one but sexually promiscuous women who are desperate for free "morning after" pills.

America has a real culture of death thing going on these days. Anything that gets in the way of a woman's right to murder her unborn child needs to be burned out of existence.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 08:46 PM
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originally posted by: Stormdancer777
Pro-Abortion Activists Threaten to Burn Down Hobby Lobby Stores After SCOTUS Ruling

www.lifenews.com...


Well.

What can one expect from non believers?

It's pathological jealousy at work.

"Abortionists" advocate murder, so I'm not surprised at their level of violence here.

Not good, very sad indeed.




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