Hobby Lobby wins Supreme Court case, limits the ACA contraception mandate

a reply to: beezzer

Really?

That's a blatant lie. Prove it.

a reply to: SearchLightsInc

So really what you're saying is the owner(s) of the company dictate what their employee's have access to on their medical package, and they can legally dictate that decision based on their religious beliefs?

What about those many companies whom DO NOT pay health insurance???

These folk whom work for Hobby Lobby are damn lucky to have a job that even provides Health Care and you guys are screaming because they objected due to religious beliefs to pay for a few types of birth control?????

Damn!

originally posted by: Sunwolf
This is one of the most entertaining threads ever!The crying,the crying,the crying!I would have never guessed there were so many entitlement crybabies in this country.How much does B.C. cost anyway?Is it like a car payment?A mortgage payment?

I already showed that in a previous post!

It's absolutely free from Family Planning for those whom make under 240% of the poverty rate!

Amazing isn't it! These poor women are being so abused by an Evil Christian company! pffffft

originally posted by: Sunwolf
This is one of the most entertaining threads ever!The crying,the crying,the crying!I would have never guessed there were so many entitlement crybabies in this country.How much does B.C. cost anyway?Is it like a car payment?A mortgage payment?

It's a non-issue really. Just measuring each others "members" over a religious point of view. I bet the world is laughing their asses off about this.

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: grandmakdw

originally posted by: Gryphon66
It's a political decision based SOLELY on political ideology from the one Branch of Government that was supposed to be continually above party.

Remember you're crowing over this, Christians, when Muslim companies require you to get on your knees and pray five times per day toward Mecca or keep you from bringing a ham sandwich to work, or the Chinese Taoists, Buddhists or Confucianists choose to require you to work on Sundays, Easters and Christmases as if they're any other day.

Don't even get me started on what the Wiccans and Satanists might require of their workers, LOL.

Here's to the end of reason and rationality in the American Legal System.

No one is forced to work for anyone they don't want to. Slavery was abolished a long time ago.

You don't like what your employer requires of you:
skimpy clothes at Hooters
cleaning toilets
working awful hours
anything - QUIT
you have that right in the US

What you are saying is a non-issue since everyone is free to quit a job if the employer wants them to do something onerous to them. If we still had slavery then it would be an issue, but we don't.

And if you happen to be 42(20 years in with this company) with limited options in today's market? That seems like it would be a "suck it up buttercup" thing. Individuals don't often have the resources to make a SC challenge.

If you spent 20 years working for a company and you strongly disagreed with their core beliefs, that is your choice. Staying is your choice, last I checked Hobby Lobby has no slaves.
With that kind of experience, there are probably many retail establishments in need of another cashier or stocker.

Working in retail is just that working, not being a slave to anyone. Don't like your employers beliefs, quit, if you stay for 20 years you know what they believe and have sucked it up for 20 years, your own fault.

originally posted by: thesaneone

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: thesaneone

originally posted by: SearchLightsInc

originally posted by: macman
a reply to: SearchLightsInc

I will ask again.

Has Hobby Lobby stopped ANYONE from purchasing this item?

It has legally disallowed them from using the company medical package for attaining them, how answer this:
How is allowing access to the morning after pill discriminating against religious beliefs? Stop avoiding the question.

I'm pretty sure the employees at hobby lobby are thankful they are offered some type of insurance.
Only "entitled" people cry for more.

Right, because American workers should take what they get and shut up about it?

When did it become "entitlement' to decide how to spend your own money?

You know what's the best part of living in America?

We have a choice to find employment wherever we want to.

Yes all the millions that are unemployed is a testament to this.

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: Sunwolf
This is one of the most entertaining threads ever!The crying,the crying,the crying!I would have never guessed there were so many entitlement crybabies in this country.How much does B.C. cost anyway?Is it like a car payment?A mortgage payment?

I already showed that in a previous post!

It's absolutely free from Family Planning for those whom make under 240% of the poverty rate!

Amazing isn't it! These poor women are being so abused by an Evil Christian company! pffffft

So you're good with a for profit corporation refusing some basic health care coverage in their compensation packages for their female employees, that they are entitled to, by law, and allowing the American tax payer to foot the bill instead?

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: Sunwolf
This is one of the most entertaining threads ever!The crying,the crying,the crying!I would have never guessed there were so many entitlement crybabies in this country.How much does B.C. cost anyway?Is it like a car payment?A mortgage payment?

It's a non-issue really. Just measuring each others "members" over a religious point of view. I bet the world is laughing their asses off about this.

Considering that 84% of the people in the world believes in a religion I don't think they find it too funny.

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: beezzer

Really?

That's a blatant lie. Prove it.

Prove what?

I've posted a lot here today.

a reply to: grandmakdw

If you spent 20 years working for a company and you strongly disagreed with their core beliefs, that is your choice.

Yes but until now that companies core belief wasn't being forced on it's employees.

Working in retail is just that working, not being a slave to anyone. Don't like your employers beliefs, quit, if you stay for 20 years you know what they believe and have sucked it up for 20 years, your own fault.

Yes because there are an unlimited number of jobs just waiting out there.

a reply to: thesaneone

Dude, your religion isn't their religion. And yes, I think they are laughing their asses off.

ETA: en.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: Sunwolf
This is one of the most entertaining threads ever!The crying,the crying,the crying!I would have never guessed there were so many entitlement crybabies in this country.How much does B.C. cost anyway?Is it like a car payment?A mortgage payment?

They *NEED* their whipping posts don't they.

It's the only way to make an argument.

It seems many of the *Marxist/Progressive/Fascist/Democrat* ideals are getting slapped lately.

It must be the Government/Corporate Stockholm Syndrome Effects at work.

Even the standard Alinsky tactics are failing

originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: beezzer

Really?

That's a blatant lie. Prove it.

Prove what?

I've posted a lot here today.

Did you try clicking on your highlighted name to see which post I was responding to? In case that's too difficult...

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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: beezzer

Why does there have to a master at all? Some people want (not as many as you seem to think) government to have authority over people. Others (You guys insist on calling your selves Libertarians even though the word traditionally meant Socialist) want private companies to have authority over people. Someone complaining about either doesn't necessarily favor the other.

You want to trade one master for another. I want freedom from both.



Bull.

You argue for an authoritarian-entitlement state!

originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: thesaneone

Dude, your religion isn't their religion. And yes, I think they are laughing their asses off.

ETA: en.wikipedia.org...

Okay and how many of those religions are for abortions or abortion pills?

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quote]originally posted by: buster2010

Yes because there are an unlimited number of jobs just waiting out there.

Yes because there are an unlimited number of jobs just waiting out there.

With that snarky remark I can only conclude you are a staunch supporter of the Obama administration, are a Lib or Progressive or Dem.

Guess you believe in amnesty for the "children" (wearing 2XL-5XL underpants) That would be consistent with being a Lib. etc. Which means you support the loss of more jobs for americans.

I still say slavery was abolished long ago

no one is forced to work for anyone

no one is forced to work for anyone who doesn't give them what they think they deserve.

originally posted by: thesaneone

originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: thesaneone

Dude, your religion isn't their religion. And yes, I think they are laughing their asses off.

ETA: en.wikipedia.org...

Okay and how many of those religions are for abortions or abortion pills?

Well to start with I'd say half of #1 thinks this is a non-issue.

Wow, I guess no one here likes cookies or truth.

a reply to: Destinyone

PTL for Hobby Lobby's win.

Folks on the other side seem to be totally lacking in understanding without a shred of empathy.

IF IF IF IF IF IF IF

A business establishment were to be ordered by a high level tyrannical governmental body to

shoot on entry to the business door . . . say . . . all customers with blue eyes or all homosexuals or all Hindus or all Muslims . . .

THEN the other side in this debate MIGHT understand Hobby Lobby's feelings

about being FORCED to help murder innocent babies in the womb.

BTW, the judgment for the 50 or so million murders so far is evidently looming closer at hand than ever before:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: Destinyone

This limits government mandates.

This limits what a government can mandate.

I'll count this as a win.

ANYTHING that limits a government mandate is a win for you? So I'm guessing you're okay with corporations taking over the role of government? Making money IS a much more noble objective than the "public interest" or "helping the poor" or keeping society stable.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: Destinyone

Totally disagree with this ruling. Corporations are people in this age, however.

It's interesting to see all who support that notion in this case. I wonder if you all support the Citizens United ruling.

You and I, both. It's only a matter of time before we get corporations adopting children.