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Hobby Lobby wins Supreme Court case, limits the ACA contraception mandate

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posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 01:09 PM
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a reply to: seeker1963

And you want mini-talibans in charge of people's lives... cool.




posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 01:09 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: amazing




Pathetic. This makes me ashamed to be an American. Religious lunatics make me angry.


Makes me have a modicum of pride in the Scotus.

Corporate products are not the governments responsiblity to 'give' the masses.

Corporate products are not a business responsibility to 'give' the masses.

The simple fact is is not the place of the government to provide for the materialistic WANTS of the masses.

NEVER HAS BEEN.


You're confusing the issues. We're talking about a first world nation and country that leads the world in many ways. And in this great country, instead of having meaningful debates and leading, we're fighting because religious lunatics don't think contraceptives or women's health care is a part of over all health care. Note that their fine with healthcare, as long as it doesn't include contraceptives etc. How backwards is that?



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 01:09 PM
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Why are liberals so big on aborting and not reproducing themselves?
Wouldn't that result in less democrat voters in the future?...OH, WAIT, that's what 'Amnesty' is for; n'est-ce pas?
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posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 01:11 PM
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originally posted by: intrepid
WHOOPS! Just caught this on FB:


But Hobby Lobby's right hand apparently doesn't know what its left hand is doing, at least when it comes to the companies that make certain forms of birth control that it equates with abortion. While the company has waged a fight against the Affordable Care Act's coverage of birth control methods it opposes, its own 401k plan had more than $73 million invested in funds with stakes in companies producing intrauterine devices (IUDs) and emergency contraceptive pills, Mother Jones reports.


www.cbsnews.com...




And.... I and many others have investments in things that they are against or don't use.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 01:11 PM
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a reply to: windword

Getting pregnant is a natural process in the creation of life.

Enter the contraception crowd who pushes the artificial means to PROHIBT that process.

That end that process.

And that 'clump' of cells doesn't grow in to a living,breathing, THINKING, human being?

Damn right shameful that so people people think the greatest gift we were all given is such a 'burden'.
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posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 01:12 PM
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a reply to: amazing




How backwards is that?


It isn't.

BECAUSE some people KEEP IGNORING this FACT:

They can still get contraception ELSEWHERE.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 01:13 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: windword

Getting pregnant is a natural process in the creation of life.

Enter the contraception crowd who pushes the artificial means to PROHIBT that process.

That end that process.

And that 'clump' of cells doesn't grow in to a living,breathing, THINKING, human being.

Damn right shameful that so people people think the greatest gift we were all given is such a 'burden'.


So what I heard you say is that you are against contraception. That if a family is financially unable to care for more children that they should just go ahead and have them anyway and put a burden on our government and add to the welfare state? That's crazy talk.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 01:13 PM
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a reply to: amazing

Contraceptives have nothing to do with a woman's health.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 01:14 PM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: dawnstar

I wonder how many Christians realize that their money (tax dollars) will pay for the morning after pill? I wonder if the folks who own Hobby Lobby realize that their own money (tax dollars) will pay for the morning after pill for their employees? Ooops...


Sadly, all of us, and we hate it. What do you think we are? Idiots?

We've known and objected to that ever since the government started sending tax money to Planned Parenthood among other projects.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 01:14 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: seeker1963

And you want mini-talibans in charge of people's lives... cool.


Works for me.

At least then we would get billions of dollars, and get machine guns, and grenades, etc.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 01:15 PM
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originally posted by: Bone75
a reply to: amazing

Contraceptives have nothing to do with a woman's health.


Then you need to really research women's health and family planning. You can't cherry pick things just because your religion says you are not to believe in them.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 01:16 PM
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a reply to: amazing




So what I heard you say is that you are against contraception.


Really ?

Thought It was RATHER CLEAR.

IF a person wants them.

Go get them and pay for them out of their pocket.

Don't expect me to pay for their sex lives.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 01:16 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: seeker1963

And you want mini-talibans in charge of people's lives... cool.


This court ruling was against the mini-Taliban Obama administration being in charge.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 01:17 PM
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originally posted by: windword
The "Morning After Pill" prevents pregnancy. No pregnancy, no abortion.
The IUD prevent pregnancy. No pregnancy, no abortion.


The IUD causes fertilized eggs not to adhere to the uterus wall. That's abortion.
The morning after will flush fertilized eggs. That's abortion.
Not every time ... but many times. They are abortificants.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 01:17 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: seeker1963

And you want mini-talibans in charge of people's lives... cool.


Why resort to a strawman?

Was it because I showed you how you're exaggerating?


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posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 01:18 PM
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originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: seeker1963

And you want mini-talibans in charge of people's lives... cool.


This court ruling was against the mini-Taliban Obama administration being in charge.


I think it is amazing.

And how full of snip politics has become.

When the right in this country gets labeled like that.

The right is seen as a greater threat than those people in the ME clinging to their guns, and religion.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 01:18 PM
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???
what about the husband who feels one more kid will drive him over the financial edge??
or the wife that just doesn't want another kid to chase after??
how many of yous would be happy if your family consisted of 5 or 6 kids?? How many of yas could afford it???



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 01:19 PM
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originally posted by: amazing
You can't cherry pick things just because your religion says you are not to believe in them.

Of course you can cherry pick if you are going to help others engage in something that goes against your religion or not. It is against the religion of many people to assist others in practicing artificial birth control and it's against the religion of many people to assist others in obtaining abortions. The FOUR types of 'contraception' that Hobby Lobby denied payment for are considered to be abortificants ... they DO flush fertilized eggs ... and that makes them abortificants.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 01:20 PM
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a reply to: dawnstar

Then go get the free birth control from Planned Parenthood. Or spend 25 cents on a condom at the gas station. Or better yet ... don't have unprotected sex and practice some self control.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 01:20 PM
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originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: windword

???
what about the husband who feels one more kid will drive him over the financial edge??
or the wife that just doesn't want another kid to chase after??
how many of yous would be happy if your family consisted of 5 or 6 kids?? How many of yas could afford it???


If people are worried about having more kids they can go and have a simple procedure.


edit on 30-6-2014 by thesaneone because: Yup



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